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	Comments on: 6th Circuit Upholds Lifetime Registration	</title>
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		By: Roger		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-1/#comment-19929</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2018 03:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-1/#comment-19928&quot;&gt;Roger&lt;/a&gt;.

Regarding the post above:  The woman fabricating stories to get men on the sex-offender status is a victim of childhood sexual trauma.  Since she couldn&#039;t retaliate against her actual abuser, any man will do.  It is like the Alanis Morissette song, &quot;You Ought to Know&quot; the lyric is:  &quot;And every time I scratch my nails down someone else&#039;s back I hope you feel it.  Well, can you feel it?&quot;  She is not to be hated.  The prosecutors exploiting her pain should be.

People have such hate for &quot;sex offenders&quot; because they are angry of abuse that happened to them, yet a &quot;sex offender&quot; may be someone taking the fall for their teenage son whose classmate sent a nude picture of herself, or a woman arrested at a &quot;Free the Nipple&quot; rally.

Regarding the post below from Barbara Hubbell:  People CAN change.  They need a support network though.  Our government needs to step in and insure that sex-offenders DO have access to social media.  Facebook hides behind this &quot;we are a private company&quot; BS line and at the same time allow government agencies to maintain Facebook pages.  If Facebook does not honor the Packingham decision, government agencies have no business posting on Facebook!

What if the solution to the Stoneman Douglas shooting was to insure teachers and parents step in to provide the tools for all students to have successful social relationships?  I know someone who was kind of an odd kid.  This friend admitted that in 1st grade, the teacher assigned her a friend, since she had none.  What if Nikolas Jacob Cruz had a friend to talk him out of shooting up the school?  Nikolas was expelled from school.  No one came to his rescue when his mother died.  The shooting occurred just 3 months after her death!  Perhaps Nikolas&#039; only friend was his mother and without her, he felt he had nothing to live for and since the school expelled him he felt no one in the school cared about him, so why should he care about anyone in the school?

So the recipe to create a shooter is to alienate him from the rest of society.  Expel him from school or work (so he has no one to talk him out of doing the shooting) and do not give any social support like Facebook friends.  You all do realize that the experiment in placing all of those &quot;sex offenders&quot; under the Julia Tuttle Causeway bridge is to see how how much hate the rest of society can throw at them before they start shooting up Florida!  Currently, sex-offenders rarely re-offend.  However, Florida&#039;s experiment is to make these men more and more miserable until they SNAP!  My suggestion is NOT to treat these people with hate because they will likely learn to hate you back.  If this happens, will you be safe?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-1/#comment-19928">Roger</a>.</p>
<p>Regarding the post above:  The woman fabricating stories to get men on the sex-offender status is a victim of childhood sexual trauma.  Since she couldn&#8217;t retaliate against her actual abuser, any man will do.  It is like the Alanis Morissette song, &#8220;You Ought to Know&#8221; the lyric is:  &#8220;And every time I scratch my nails down someone else&#8217;s back I hope you feel it.  Well, can you feel it?&#8221;  She is not to be hated.  The prosecutors exploiting her pain should be.</p>
<p>People have such hate for &#8220;sex offenders&#8221; because they are angry of abuse that happened to them, yet a &#8220;sex offender&#8221; may be someone taking the fall for their teenage son whose classmate sent a nude picture of herself, or a woman arrested at a &#8220;Free the Nipple&#8221; rally.</p>
<p>Regarding the post below from Barbara Hubbell:  People CAN change.  They need a support network though.  Our government needs to step in and insure that sex-offenders DO have access to social media.  Facebook hides behind this &#8220;we are a private company&#8221; BS line and at the same time allow government agencies to maintain Facebook pages.  If Facebook does not honor the Packingham decision, government agencies have no business posting on Facebook!</p>
<p>What if the solution to the Stoneman Douglas shooting was to insure teachers and parents step in to provide the tools for all students to have successful social relationships?  I know someone who was kind of an odd kid.  This friend admitted that in 1st grade, the teacher assigned her a friend, since she had none.  What if Nikolas Jacob Cruz had a friend to talk him out of shooting up the school?  Nikolas was expelled from school.  No one came to his rescue when his mother died.  The shooting occurred just 3 months after her death!  Perhaps Nikolas&#8217; only friend was his mother and without her, he felt he had nothing to live for and since the school expelled him he felt no one in the school cared about him, so why should he care about anyone in the school?</p>
<p>So the recipe to create a shooter is to alienate him from the rest of society.  Expel him from school or work (so he has no one to talk him out of doing the shooting) and do not give any social support like Facebook friends.  You all do realize that the experiment in placing all of those &#8220;sex offenders&#8221; under the Julia Tuttle Causeway bridge is to see how how much hate the rest of society can throw at them before they start shooting up Florida!  Currently, sex-offenders rarely re-offend.  However, Florida&#8217;s experiment is to make these men more and more miserable until they SNAP!  My suggestion is NOT to treat these people with hate because they will likely learn to hate you back.  If this happens, will you be safe?</p>
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		By: Roger		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-1/#comment-19928</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-1/#comment-19916&quot;&gt;Sex Offender Truth&lt;/a&gt;.

The Sex Offender registry is a business.  Some enterprising women have found a way to cash in!  Imagine if you are a woman living in a poor county in Wisconsin on the border of wealthy Lake County Illinois and you find that Lake County Illinois has the highest conviction payouts for wrongfully convicted people.  Logically with Lake County Illinois having such a high conviction rate you can find men without the means to defend themselves and allow your &quot;sex offender&quot; friend you met at the fetish club on &quot;Adult Little Girl Night&quot; to use your new Lake County Illinois &quot;boyfriend&#039;s&quot; computer.  Having your boyfriend go to prison sure takes the pressure off in case he has a change of heart and has you convicted of the assault charges in Wisconsin, Illinois or Ohio or in case he has you investigated for the time you threw him out of a car in Wisconsin!
https://fox6now.com/2013/01/24/woman-charged-in-incident-involving-live-in-boyfriend-with-brain-injury/
And how did the live in boyfriend GET the brain injury?
https://journaltimes.com/news/local/racine-man-in-critical-condition-after-leaping-from-moving-vehicle/article_33cbac0e-1ac1-11e1-ab61-001cc4c03286.html
The clues are in the &quot;fox6&quot; article.  Two men have &quot;disappeared&quot;.  These are men who refused to allow their sons to be sold to the same-sex couple she sold her daughter to.  Their reward?  Sex offender registry!  Physical abuse with life threatening injuries!  Theft of $25,000 worth of property each!  (It is okay to steal from and assault &quot;sex offenders&quot;.  No one will stop you!)
With the payments for selling one of your children and the $25,000 payouts from &quot;acquiring&quot; all of your last two &#039;boyfriends&#039; assets you can live comfortably in a five bedroom home.  Uncle Sam will never question what you can afford with no income!  You can continue to drive the car you took from the brain injured man you pushed out of the car as long as you keep forging his name on the registration.  You can drive the car despite being legally blind as a Wisconsin resident as long as you have a bogus Illinois address to use with your &quot;bribes for license Illinois driver&#039;s license&quot;.  You can be caught with property reported stolen from the next victim and the police will never investigate further!  Once you report your boyfriend as a &quot;sex offender&quot; you can live the good life!
It is okay to comment if you are a lawyer and actually WANT to investigate these truths or if you are a film-maker and you would like me to present the evidence of this outrageous, real life &quot;Gone Girl&quot; story!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-1/#comment-19916">Sex Offender Truth</a>.</p>
<p>The Sex Offender registry is a business.  Some enterprising women have found a way to cash in!  Imagine if you are a woman living in a poor county in Wisconsin on the border of wealthy Lake County Illinois and you find that Lake County Illinois has the highest conviction payouts for wrongfully convicted people.  Logically with Lake County Illinois having such a high conviction rate you can find men without the means to defend themselves and allow your &#8220;sex offender&#8221; friend you met at the fetish club on &#8220;Adult Little Girl Night&#8221; to use your new Lake County Illinois &#8220;boyfriend&#8217;s&#8221; computer.  Having your boyfriend go to prison sure takes the pressure off in case he has a change of heart and has you convicted of the assault charges in Wisconsin, Illinois or Ohio or in case he has you investigated for the time you threw him out of a car in Wisconsin!<br />
<a href="https://fox6now.com/2013/01/24/woman-charged-in-incident-involving-live-in-boyfriend-with-brain-injury/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://fox6now.com/2013/01/24/woman-charged-in-incident-involving-live-in-boyfriend-with-brain-injury/</a><br />
And how did the live in boyfriend GET the brain injury?<br />
<a href="https://journaltimes.com/news/local/racine-man-in-critical-condition-after-leaping-from-moving-vehicle/article_33cbac0e-1ac1-11e1-ab61-001cc4c03286.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://journaltimes.com/news/local/racine-man-in-critical-condition-after-leaping-from-moving-vehicle/article_33cbac0e-1ac1-11e1-ab61-001cc4c03286.html</a><br />
The clues are in the &#8220;fox6&#8221; article.  Two men have &#8220;disappeared&#8221;.  These are men who refused to allow their sons to be sold to the same-sex couple she sold her daughter to.  Their reward?  Sex offender registry!  Physical abuse with life threatening injuries!  Theft of $25,000 worth of property each!  (It is okay to steal from and assault &#8220;sex offenders&#8221;.  No one will stop you!)<br />
With the payments for selling one of your children and the $25,000 payouts from &#8220;acquiring&#8221; all of your last two &#8216;boyfriends&#8217; assets you can live comfortably in a five bedroom home.  Uncle Sam will never question what you can afford with no income!  You can continue to drive the car you took from the brain injured man you pushed out of the car as long as you keep forging his name on the registration.  You can drive the car despite being legally blind as a Wisconsin resident as long as you have a bogus Illinois address to use with your &#8220;bribes for license Illinois driver&#8217;s license&#8221;.  You can be caught with property reported stolen from the next victim and the police will never investigate further!  Once you report your boyfriend as a &#8220;sex offender&#8221; you can live the good life!<br />
It is okay to comment if you are a lawyer and actually WANT to investigate these truths or if you are a film-maker and you would like me to present the evidence of this outrageous, real life &#8220;Gone Girl&#8221; story!</p>
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		By: LINDA M FAVINGER		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-2/#comment-19927</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LINDA M FAVINGER]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-2/#comment-19920&quot;&gt;Gerald&lt;/a&gt;.

Fight back after reading article on dec 23 2018 fl newspaper about state official getting off big time of sex offender come on people lets stick together this happen according to florida jacksonville news paper here in mami flirida lets go people lets get together and fight the sex crime stings. No victimin no registery yes keep an eye on the re offender most dangerouse one but not everyone needs to be on it fight fight back]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-2/#comment-19920">Gerald</a>.</p>
<p>Fight back after reading article on dec 23 2018 fl newspaper about state official getting off big time of sex offender come on people lets stick together this happen according to florida jacksonville news paper here in mami flirida lets go people lets get together and fight the sex crime stings. No victimin no registery yes keep an eye on the re offender most dangerouse one but not everyone needs to be on it fight fight back</p>
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		By: LINDA M FAVINGER		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-2/#comment-19926</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LINDA M FAVINGER]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-2/#comment-19925&quot;&gt;JZ&lt;/a&gt;.

Dec 23 jax fl news paper has a very important article here is the title serial sex offender gets soft treatment from the fed it is about us secretary of labor gets a few months in county jail work release no probation no sex registery all because he is or was at time government officials now people start finding back read article no victimin so they shouldn&#039;t be on registery lets fight back people alot of people need second chances the sting need to stop government got a big slap in the hand look at bill crosby he gets what us government only got 13 months county time plus 12 hrs aday to work in his state office. Lets go people fight back now]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-2/#comment-19925">JZ</a>.</p>
<p>Dec 23 jax fl news paper has a very important article here is the title serial sex offender gets soft treatment from the fed it is about us secretary of labor gets a few months in county jail work release no probation no sex registery all because he is or was at time government officials now people start finding back read article no victimin so they shouldn&#8217;t be on registery lets fight back people alot of people need second chances the sting need to stop government got a big slap in the hand look at bill crosby he gets what us government only got 13 months county time plus 12 hrs aday to work in his state office. Lets go people fight back now</p>
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		By: JZ		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-2/#comment-19925</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 02:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Get woke, go broke.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get woke, go broke.</p>
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		By: Al Spangler		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-2/#comment-19924</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al Spangler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 00:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Constitution was written to protect our rights from the Government .  What is ironic, we depend on the Government to tell us what the Constitution means to us and what freedom and justice we might be allowed to have.  You can commit murder, do your time and be free, no registering.  Be a sex offender and you are never really free for the rest of your life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Constitution was written to protect our rights from the Government .  What is ironic, we depend on the Government to tell us what the Constitution means to us and what freedom and justice we might be allowed to have.  You can commit murder, do your time and be free, no registering.  Be a sex offender and you are never really free for the rest of your life.</p>
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		By: Gerald		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-2/#comment-19923</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The sad thing is that the 6th Circuit probably ruled correctly here on the law. They were asked to determine if Ohio followed due process, and since Ohio&#039;s legislature wrote the law that way, that becomes the definition of due process in that state. It has to be challenged as void because of the mistaken assumption that the offender is likely to re-offend, where there is no objective evidence to back that up. In fact, objective studies prove the opposite, that the offender is most likely to NOT re-offend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad thing is that the 6th Circuit probably ruled correctly here on the law. They were asked to determine if Ohio followed due process, and since Ohio&#8217;s legislature wrote the law that way, that becomes the definition of due process in that state. It has to be challenged as void because of the mistaken assumption that the offender is likely to re-offend, where there is no objective evidence to back that up. In fact, objective studies prove the opposite, that the offender is most likely to NOT re-offend.</p>
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		By: Joe123		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-2/#comment-19922</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe123]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2018 03:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, a panel of dumbass judges had taken society a step backwards in this case.

They absolutely must appeal to the Supreme Court.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, a panel of dumbass judges had taken society a step backwards in this case.</p>
<p>They absolutely must appeal to the Supreme Court.</p>
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		By: Josh		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-2/#comment-19921</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2018 23:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-2/#comment-19918&quot;&gt;Jacob&lt;/a&gt;.

Michigan hasn’t changed anything as of yet...sure, we got a favorable ruling from the 6th and then a denial of Cert. from scotus but nothing has changed in a practical or useful way. The “negotiations” are still ongoing between the Aclu and legislators....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-2/#comment-19918">Jacob</a>.</p>
<p>Michigan hasn’t changed anything as of yet&#8230;sure, we got a favorable ruling from the 6th and then a denial of Cert. from scotus but nothing has changed in a practical or useful way. The “negotiations” are still ongoing between the Aclu and legislators&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Gerald		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/6th-circuit-upholds-lifetime-registration/comment-page-2/#comment-19920</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2018 23:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The sad part about this case is that the trial judge sentenced her to lifetime registration by concluding that she is likely to re-offend in the future. Therefore, unless the recidivism rates for sex offenses are above 50% in Ohio, we must conclude that this judge has psychic powers. Judges are supposed to be objective, yet Ohio&#039;s law apparently makes the judges&#039; determinations entirely subjective, without regard to what the recidivism studies actually show. It is not so much a problem of lack of due process. The real problem is that it is flawed due process which is not subject to objective review. Perhaps it would be better to challenge the entire provision from that angle instead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad part about this case is that the trial judge sentenced her to lifetime registration by concluding that she is likely to re-offend in the future. Therefore, unless the recidivism rates for sex offenses are above 50% in Ohio, we must conclude that this judge has psychic powers. Judges are supposed to be objective, yet Ohio&#8217;s law apparently makes the judges&#8217; determinations entirely subjective, without regard to what the recidivism studies actually show. It is not so much a problem of lack of due process. The real problem is that it is flawed due process which is not subject to objective review. Perhaps it would be better to challenge the entire provision from that angle instead.</p>
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