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	Comments on: A disappointing decision in a Florida removal case, but one that may not be the last word	</title>
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		By: Losing faith in humanity		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Losing faith in humanity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2026 15:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-disappointing-decision-in-a-florida-removal-case-but-one-that-may-not-be-the-last-word/comment-page-1/#comment-76570&quot;&gt;Ben&lt;/a&gt;.

The DCA can override all other courts if I&#039;m reading into it correctly]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-disappointing-decision-in-a-florida-removal-case-but-one-that-may-not-be-the-last-word/comment-page-1/#comment-76570">Ben</a>.</p>
<p>The DCA can override all other courts if I&#8217;m reading into it correctly</p>
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		By: FAC-3		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FAC-3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2026 12:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-disappointing-decision-in-a-florida-removal-case-but-one-that-may-not-be-the-last-word/comment-page-3/#comment-76628&quot;&gt;RM&lt;/a&gt;.

RM,
You are right about the merits but the issue before the Supreme Court will not be whether FDLE is right or wrong, but whether they had standing to appeal. 
In Korson, the case that went before the FL Supreme Court, the 2nd circuit also thought that the lower court got it wrong, but the appellant had no standing to appeal and the court had no jurisdiction to reverse. 
The Florida Supreme Court then ruled that it had no jurisdiction to take the case. 
That came before the Fl supreme court twice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-disappointing-decision-in-a-florida-removal-case-but-one-that-may-not-be-the-last-word/comment-page-3/#comment-76628">RM</a>.</p>
<p>RM,<br />
You are right about the merits but the issue before the Supreme Court will not be whether FDLE is right or wrong, but whether they had standing to appeal.<br />
In Korson, the case that went before the FL Supreme Court, the 2nd circuit also thought that the lower court got it wrong, but the appellant had no standing to appeal and the court had no jurisdiction to reverse.<br />
The Florida Supreme Court then ruled that it had no jurisdiction to take the case.<br />
That came before the Fl supreme court twice.</p>
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		By: RM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2026 03:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have tracked down this decision of the court and read it in its entirety. Until you read the decision, the main issues are not clear from this FAC post. This was a case involving a registrant who does not meet the current 25-year removal provision, but would have met the former 20-year removal provision had that 2007 version been in effect today. First, the registrant was convicted of a subsection of F.S. 794.011, which under the current version is an offense that does not qualify for removal. Second, the registrant has only been &quot;released&quot; for 21 years, not 25 as required by the current statute. Thus, he does not qualify for removal under the current version of the statute.

The 4th DCA held that FDLE has standing to appeal the removal order of the circuit court, and the court further held that the current version of the removal statute should apply, not the 2007 version. This is not a case where FDLE appealed because it disagreed with the circuit court&#039;s judgement on whether the registrant should or should not be removed based on whether he posed a danger to society. Rather, FDLE argued that the removal statute is civil and not criminal in nature, and therefore retroactivity is not an issue, thus the removal order violates the current version of the statute (which it clearly does).

In addition, the registrant who was removed is a Tier III offender under Federal SORNA and therefore has an independent federal duty to register for life. The current Florida removal statute requires 25-year removal to not conflict with Federal SORNA. The 4th DCA articulated why FDLE has standing to appeal the removal order under these circumstances. That is very technical legal issue.

I&#039;m not saying whether I agree or disagree with the 4th DCA on the legal merits. However, I believe everyone needs to read the full opinion before commenting. This case is more about whether the old 20-year removal provision applies to those with offenses that predate the current 25-year removal provision, and that is a much more impactful issue than whether FDLE has standing to appeal, in my opinion. It would obviously be in the best interests of thousands of registrants (including myself) for the Florida Supreme Court to reverse this decision, but that would essentially require the FL Supreme Court to also finally rule on the retroactivity of the removal statute, which it has not been eager to do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tracked down this decision of the court and read it in its entirety. Until you read the decision, the main issues are not clear from this FAC post. This was a case involving a registrant who does not meet the current 25-year removal provision, but would have met the former 20-year removal provision had that 2007 version been in effect today. First, the registrant was convicted of a subsection of F.S. 794.011, which under the current version is an offense that does not qualify for removal. Second, the registrant has only been &#8220;released&#8221; for 21 years, not 25 as required by the current statute. Thus, he does not qualify for removal under the current version of the statute.</p>
<p>The 4th DCA held that FDLE has standing to appeal the removal order of the circuit court, and the court further held that the current version of the removal statute should apply, not the 2007 version. This is not a case where FDLE appealed because it disagreed with the circuit court&#8217;s judgement on whether the registrant should or should not be removed based on whether he posed a danger to society. Rather, FDLE argued that the removal statute is civil and not criminal in nature, and therefore retroactivity is not an issue, thus the removal order violates the current version of the statute (which it clearly does).</p>
<p>In addition, the registrant who was removed is a Tier III offender under Federal SORNA and therefore has an independent federal duty to register for life. The current Florida removal statute requires 25-year removal to not conflict with Federal SORNA. The 4th DCA articulated why FDLE has standing to appeal the removal order under these circumstances. That is very technical legal issue.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying whether I agree or disagree with the 4th DCA on the legal merits. However, I believe everyone needs to read the full opinion before commenting. This case is more about whether the old 20-year removal provision applies to those with offenses that predate the current 25-year removal provision, and that is a much more impactful issue than whether FDLE has standing to appeal, in my opinion. It would obviously be in the best interests of thousands of registrants (including myself) for the Florida Supreme Court to reverse this decision, but that would essentially require the FL Supreme Court to also finally rule on the retroactivity of the removal statute, which it has not been eager to do.</p>
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		By: RM		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-disappointing-decision-in-a-florida-removal-case-but-one-that-may-not-be-the-last-word/comment-page-2/#comment-76627</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2026 03:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-disappointing-decision-in-a-florida-removal-case-but-one-that-may-not-be-the-last-word/comment-page-2/#comment-76582&quot;&gt;tearfuleagle&lt;/a&gt;.

If I recall, the State Supreme Court decision on this was a per curiam affirmance, which does not create precedent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-disappointing-decision-in-a-florida-removal-case-but-one-that-may-not-be-the-last-word/comment-page-2/#comment-76582">tearfuleagle</a>.</p>
<p>If I recall, the State Supreme Court decision on this was a per curiam affirmance, which does not create precedent.</p>
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		By: Linda Wilson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Linda Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 18:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I sure hope they appeal this.  Especially since just few weeks ago the FL Supreme Court unanimously decided for the 2nd time, that FDLE can not stop/reverse registry removals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sure hope they appeal this.  Especially since just few weeks ago the FL Supreme Court unanimously decided for the 2nd time, that FDLE can not stop/reverse registry removals.</p>
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		By: RayO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RayO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 01:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As much as I respect the PFR&#039;s privacy, I sure wish I could read the arguments in the case. I&#039;d like to see what the State had to say and possibly learn from it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I respect the PFR&#8217;s privacy, I sure wish I could read the arguments in the case. I&#8217;d like to see what the State had to say and possibly learn from it.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 23:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-disappointing-decision-in-a-florida-removal-case-but-one-that-may-not-be-the-last-word/comment-page-1/#comment-76583&quot;&gt;tearfuleagle&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, I wanted to say worse...but you have the right idea...thank you]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-disappointing-decision-in-a-florida-removal-case-but-one-that-may-not-be-the-last-word/comment-page-1/#comment-76583">tearfuleagle</a>.</p>
<p>Well, I wanted to say worse&#8230;but you have the right idea&#8230;thank you</p>
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		By: Wayne Odell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Odell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 22:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-disappointing-decision-in-a-florida-removal-case-but-one-that-may-not-be-the-last-word/comment-page-1/#comment-76607&quot;&gt;Sex offender truth&lt;/a&gt;.

As soon as I sign up with her for sure I will supply you her name.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-disappointing-decision-in-a-florida-removal-case-but-one-that-may-not-be-the-last-word/comment-page-1/#comment-76607">Sex offender truth</a>.</p>
<p>As soon as I sign up with her for sure I will supply you her name.</p>
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		By: FAC Contributor #12		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FAC Contributor #12]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 20:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-disappointing-decision-in-a-florida-removal-case-but-one-that-may-not-be-the-last-word/comment-page-1/#comment-76607&quot;&gt;Sex offender truth&lt;/a&gt;.

Ron Kleiner is a great attorney. He’s on FACs attorney referral page.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-disappointing-decision-in-a-florida-removal-case-but-one-that-may-not-be-the-last-word/comment-page-1/#comment-76607">Sex offender truth</a>.</p>
<p>Ron Kleiner is a great attorney. He’s on FACs attorney referral page.</p>
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		By: Sex offender truth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sex offender truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 19:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-disappointing-decision-in-a-florida-removal-case-but-one-that-may-not-be-the-last-word/comment-page-1/#comment-76567&quot;&gt;Wayne Odell&lt;/a&gt;.

I am not living in the state any longer, I am in California. I petitioned to be removed there and it was granted. 

Of course, Florida still lists me even though it’s been 25 years. I would love to know the name of who you are using. 

I can’t seem to find a competent lawyer…it seems most are in it for the money and will tell you anything to get your money!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-disappointing-decision-in-a-florida-removal-case-but-one-that-may-not-be-the-last-word/comment-page-1/#comment-76567">Wayne Odell</a>.</p>
<p>I am not living in the state any longer, I am in California. I petitioned to be removed there and it was granted. </p>
<p>Of course, Florida still lists me even though it’s been 25 years. I would love to know the name of who you are using. </p>
<p>I can’t seem to find a competent lawyer…it seems most are in it for the money and will tell you anything to get your money!</p>
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