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	Comments on: A loss in Miami-Dade Sex Offender Residency Restriction Challenge	</title>
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		By: Ed		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19911</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2018 16:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19897&quot;&gt;Jacob&lt;/a&gt;.

I might be missing something, but if sexual assaults are not reported, how can one infer a rate of under reporting?  No doubt some assaults are not reported, but is the rate high or low?  Since this assertion is not quantifiable, its only value lies in the fact that it cannot be refuted, and is inserted into legal arguments only for its prejudicial effect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19897">Jacob</a>.</p>
<p>I might be missing something, but if sexual assaults are not reported, how can one infer a rate of under reporting?  No doubt some assaults are not reported, but is the rate high or low?  Since this assertion is not quantifiable, its only value lies in the fact that it cannot be refuted, and is inserted into legal arguments only for its prejudicial effect.</p>
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		By: CMC		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19910</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CMC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19903&quot;&gt;Jacob&lt;/a&gt;.

The question asked was whether or not Sec 21-281of the county code (better known as the Lauren Book Child Safety Ordinance) was intended to be Remedial or Retributive. If the County Commissions intent was remedial, which both parties have agreed it was, the next inquiry is regardless of intent did the plaintiffs established by the &quot;Clearest Proof&quot; that the punitive effect of the residency restriction overrides the County&#039;s legitimate intent to enact a non-punitive, civil measure.

Being a &quot;Facial&quot; Ex Post Facto challenge recidivism rates just do not matter.  One side says its low, the other side says it’s “frightening and high”, neither side can disprove the other. The second argument of the availability of housing has some force but it in and by itself does not suffice. The hurdle is the &quot;Clearest Proof&quot;

The County clearly demonstrated other factors inhibiting the sex offenders ability to obtain housing such as plaintiffs financial ability and considering sec 21-283(a)(b)(c), the reluctance of property owners to rent to sex offenders as understandable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19903">Jacob</a>.</p>
<p>The question asked was whether or not Sec 21-281of the county code (better known as the Lauren Book Child Safety Ordinance) was intended to be Remedial or Retributive. If the County Commissions intent was remedial, which both parties have agreed it was, the next inquiry is regardless of intent did the plaintiffs established by the &#8220;Clearest Proof&#8221; that the punitive effect of the residency restriction overrides the County&#8217;s legitimate intent to enact a non-punitive, civil measure.</p>
<p>Being a &#8220;Facial&#8221; Ex Post Facto challenge recidivism rates just do not matter.  One side says its low, the other side says it’s “frightening and high”, neither side can disprove the other. The second argument of the availability of housing has some force but it in and by itself does not suffice. The hurdle is the &#8220;Clearest Proof&#8221;</p>
<p>The County clearly demonstrated other factors inhibiting the sex offenders ability to obtain housing such as plaintiffs financial ability and considering sec 21-283(a)(b)(c), the reluctance of property owners to rent to sex offenders as understandable.</p>
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		By: joseph		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19909</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joseph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 23:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19902&quot;&gt;What Happened?&lt;/a&gt;.

this what happens when you trust in people!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19902">What Happened?</a>.</p>
<p>this what happens when you trust in people!!</p>
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		By: CMC		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-19908</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CMC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 22:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Censored my last post because it did not conform to your futile and failed thinking? How about giving this one some thought.

By only prohibiting sex offenders from living within a 1,000 foot buffer zone has the &quot;STATE&quot; created a right for the restricted offender to live anywhere outside that that 1,000 foot buffer? Could it be argued that local governments enacting larger zones are therefore intruding on that State created right?

No Let&#039;s continue to argue about recidivism and ex post facto]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Censored my last post because it did not conform to your futile and failed thinking? How about giving this one some thought.</p>
<p>By only prohibiting sex offenders from living within a 1,000 foot buffer zone has the &#8220;STATE&#8221; created a right for the restricted offender to live anywhere outside that that 1,000 foot buffer? Could it be argued that local governments enacting larger zones are therefore intruding on that State created right?</p>
<p>No Let&#8217;s continue to argue about recidivism and ex post facto</p>
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		By: Dustin		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-19907</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dustin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 15:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is it me, or is the &quot;not punitive because it wasn&#039;t intended to be&quot; conclusion some courts keep coming to when addressing any registry law making courts sound pretty stupid? Isn&#039;t that like saying the Patriots didn&#039;t lose the Super Bowl because they didn&#039;t intend to?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it me, or is the &#8220;not punitive because it wasn&#8217;t intended to be&#8221; conclusion some courts keep coming to when addressing any registry law making courts sound pretty stupid? Isn&#8217;t that like saying the Patriots didn&#8217;t lose the Super Bowl because they didn&#8217;t intend to?</p>
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		By: CMC		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-19906</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CMC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 11:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Attention FAC and your ACLU Attorneys: I am your Huckleberry.

I do not care about recidivism rates of sex offenders. One side says its low, the other side says it&#039;s &quot;frightening and high&quot;, neither side can disprove the other.

It doesn&#039;t matter to me nor to any Court whether or not the residency restriction imposed by Metro Dade County is in fact the cause of the high number of sex offender transiency in the County since its enactment. Remedial or retributive? Noting &quot;Nothing but the clearest proof will survive.&quot;

All that matters to me is the rule of law, State constitutional law, State legislature intent, statutory construction, history, text and structure, of 775.215.

This inquiry will begin with or without the help of FAC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attention FAC and your ACLU Attorneys: I am your Huckleberry.</p>
<p>I do not care about recidivism rates of sex offenders. One side says its low, the other side says it&#8217;s &#8220;frightening and high&#8221;, neither side can disprove the other.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter to me nor to any Court whether or not the residency restriction imposed by Metro Dade County is in fact the cause of the high number of sex offender transiency in the County since its enactment. Remedial or retributive? Noting &#8220;Nothing but the clearest proof will survive.&#8221;</p>
<p>All that matters to me is the rule of law, State constitutional law, State legislature intent, statutory construction, history, text and structure, of 775.215.</p>
<p>This inquiry will begin with or without the help of FAC.</p>
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		By: JZ		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19905</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 02:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19902&quot;&gt;What Happened?&lt;/a&gt;.

Senator Crook?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19902">What Happened?</a>.</p>
<p>Senator Crook?</p>
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		By: Mata Hari		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19904</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mata Hari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2018 06:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19900&quot;&gt;Ted&lt;/a&gt;.

We need to make a registry of every judge, politician &#038; law maker. Property records are public record same as criminal record, lets see how fast they rethink these draconian laws when there is a registry with their home addresses on it]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19900">Ted</a>.</p>
<p>We need to make a registry of every judge, politician &amp; law maker. Property records are public record same as criminal record, lets see how fast they rethink these draconian laws when there is a registry with their home addresses on it</p>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19903</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2018 21:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The court appears to have jumped to the conclusion that, since many sex crimes go unreported, then it must be those with prior convictions that are disproportionately engaging in those unreported crimes.  But I’m pretty sure that neither the expert witness nor the the studies they cited, actually said that, did they?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The court appears to have jumped to the conclusion that, since many sex crimes go unreported, then it must be those with prior convictions that are disproportionately engaging in those unreported crimes.  But I’m pretty sure that neither the expert witness nor the the studies they cited, actually said that, did they?</p>
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		By: What Happened?		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-loss-in-miami-dade-sex-offender-residency-restriction-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-19902</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What Happened?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2018 19:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought your SOR lawyers were legal Gods who could no wrong-what happened?   Not as all knowing as touted?   Seems the fact-finder was not impressed with your witnesses or legal arguments.   Boo hoo.   Your Ex Post Facto case is going down, too.   Don&#039;t count on the district judge&#039;s liberalism to save you-libs hate sex offenders, too.   Couldn&#039;t happen to a more deserving group of frauds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought your SOR lawyers were legal Gods who could no wrong-what happened?   Not as all knowing as touted?   Seems the fact-finder was not impressed with your witnesses or legal arguments.   Boo hoo.   Your Ex Post Facto case is going down, too.   Don&#8217;t count on the district judge&#8217;s liberalism to save you-libs hate sex offenders, too.   Couldn&#8217;t happen to a more deserving group of frauds.</p>
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