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	Comments on: A shallow dive into new Justice Department&#8217;s Rules on SORNA	</title>
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	<description>Reforming Florida’s Sex Offender Registry Laws</description>
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		By: Jack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-4/#comment-46045</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2022 03:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s becoming clear to me that none if this, not even some miraculous S.Ct. ruling overturning SORNA matters much. Why? Because i would still have the state reg. To deal with. Then Congress would just hurry up and pass a new registry law and the AG would implement some emergency crap and we&#039;d start all over. Friends, the rules of civilty and decency and especially the Constitution are openly flaunted and since all of this was horseshit to begin with what makes anyone believe playing by rules and winning will matter? Let&#039;s ask the Cherokee Nation how that worked out for them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s becoming clear to me that none if this, not even some miraculous S.Ct. ruling overturning SORNA matters much. Why? Because i would still have the state reg. To deal with. Then Congress would just hurry up and pass a new registry law and the AG would implement some emergency crap and we&#8217;d start all over. Friends, the rules of civilty and decency and especially the Constitution are openly flaunted and since all of this was horseshit to begin with what makes anyone believe playing by rules and winning will matter? Let&#8217;s ask the Cherokee Nation how that worked out for them.</p>
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		By: Brandon		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-3/#comment-46044</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brandon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 13:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-3/#comment-46042&quot;&gt;Johandy&lt;/a&gt;.

Tiers make sense in theory, but in reality are based on convictions and not actual risk.  Even if a state has tiers nothing can stop them from adding more convictions to tier 3.   Right now I’m in a tiered state, just like state of conviction. Has nothing to do with my risk, just my conviction.  I understand tiers seem like a step forward, yet if you give them an inch they’ll take 40 miles with no off ramp for some registrants.  Personally I don’t think Florida will ever do tiers because the state will lose money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-3/#comment-46042">Johandy</a>.</p>
<p>Tiers make sense in theory, but in reality are based on convictions and not actual risk.  Even if a state has tiers nothing can stop them from adding more convictions to tier 3.   Right now I’m in a tiered state, just like state of conviction. Has nothing to do with my risk, just my conviction.  I understand tiers seem like a step forward, yet if you give them an inch they’ll take 40 miles with no off ramp for some registrants.  Personally I don’t think Florida will ever do tiers because the state will lose money.</p>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 13:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FL has two tiers (though they don’t call them that) and no Tier I.

Tiers have potential only where they are risk-based. But FSORNA, FL law, and many other states exclude risk assessment from tiering.  Only a few states employ risk assessment in their tier assignments, and they have had to be FSORNA-noncompliant to do so.

In the Florida legislature, when it comes to registrants, risk is presumed and irrebutable. I haven’t seen any bill proposals aimed at changing that, but I would be willing to consider supporting and advocating for such a change. Many FAC members are low risk and deserve to be lowest tier or (better) no tier at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FL has two tiers (though they don’t call them that) and no Tier I.</p>
<p>Tiers have potential only where they are risk-based. But FSORNA, FL law, and many other states exclude risk assessment from tiering.  Only a few states employ risk assessment in their tier assignments, and they have had to be FSORNA-noncompliant to do so.</p>
<p>In the Florida legislature, when it comes to registrants, risk is presumed and irrebutable. I haven’t seen any bill proposals aimed at changing that, but I would be willing to consider supporting and advocating for such a change. Many FAC members are low risk and deserve to be lowest tier or (better) no tier at all.</p>
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		By: Johandy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johandy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 12:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How how is for us in Florida push something like the tiers ? Tier 1, 2 and 3? I think this will help a lot of us in the mean time, while we look to abolish the registry. I think is more doable. The state will be more likely to hear about a tier change than to abolish the registry. We should put forward and support a law suit on this]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How how is for us in Florida push something like the tiers ? Tier 1, 2 and 3? I think this will help a lot of us in the mean time, while we look to abolish the registry. I think is more doable. The state will be more likely to hear about a tier change than to abolish the registry. We should put forward and support a law suit on this</p>
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		By: Sex Offender Truth		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-3/#comment-46041</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sex Offender Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 02:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-3/#comment-46039&quot;&gt;Jacob&lt;/a&gt;.

Clearly they are referring to the not uncommon situation where a person in authority or in this case an influential individual is overly vocal about their disgust of item X when they are in fact doing item X and simply are trying to deflect attention from themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-3/#comment-46039">Jacob</a>.</p>
<p>Clearly they are referring to the not uncommon situation where a person in authority or in this case an influential individual is overly vocal about their disgust of item X when they are in fact doing item X and simply are trying to deflect attention from themselves.</p>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-3/#comment-46040</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 22:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FAC do we know whether FSORNA defines internet identifiers more broadly than FL?

If so, that would seem to affect thousands of FL registrants, despite Judge Hinkle’s ruling in our favor.

(I had this thought after listening to Janice Belucci on the ACSOL call)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FAC do we know whether FSORNA defines internet identifiers more broadly than FL?</p>
<p>If so, that would seem to affect thousands of FL registrants, despite Judge Hinkle’s ruling in our favor.</p>
<p>(I had this thought after listening to Janice Belucci on the ACSOL call)</p>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-3/#comment-46039</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2021 12:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-3/#comment-46038&quot;&gt;Just Sayin&lt;/a&gt;.

So a sexual abuser once stated that sexual abuse is wrong?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-3/#comment-46038">Just Sayin</a>.</p>
<p>So a sexual abuser once stated that sexual abuse is wrong?</p>
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		By: Just Sayin		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-3/#comment-46038</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Just Sayin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2021 00:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m surprised FAC hasn&#039;t picked up on the CNN producer charged with multiple child sex crimes in a federal indictment. These are the folks who call us scum.

CNN producer accused of child sex crimes once decried growing news stories of child abuse cases in old tweet

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-producer-john-griffin-old-tweet]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised FAC hasn&#8217;t picked up on the CNN producer charged with multiple child sex crimes in a federal indictment. These are the folks who call us scum.</p>
<p>CNN producer accused of child sex crimes once decried growing news stories of child abuse cases in old tweet</p>
<p><a href="https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-producer-john-griffin-old-tweet" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-producer-john-griffin-old-tweet</a></p>
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		By: FAC Contributor #3		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-1/#comment-46037</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FAC Contributor #3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2021 12:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-1/#comment-46035&quot;&gt;Brandon&lt;/a&gt;.

Brandon. our membership is comprised mostly of individuals in Florida. We are the Florida affiliate of a national organization. While we are all concerned about issues that impact people in other states and countries, when we chose which lawsuits to help fund, we have a responsibility to focus on ones that will impact the majority of our membership. It&#039;s also a matter of bandwidth. 
The national organization focuses on nationwide issues, other state&#039;s affiliates focus on other states, then there are groups for specific issues, such as international travel. If you have an issue of particular concern to you that is outside the scope of our focus, reach out to us and we will, in turn, reach out to the network and see whether another group is focused on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-1/#comment-46035">Brandon</a>.</p>
<p>Brandon. our membership is comprised mostly of individuals in Florida. We are the Florida affiliate of a national organization. While we are all concerned about issues that impact people in other states and countries, when we chose which lawsuits to help fund, we have a responsibility to focus on ones that will impact the majority of our membership. It&#8217;s also a matter of bandwidth.<br />
The national organization focuses on nationwide issues, other state&#8217;s affiliates focus on other states, then there are groups for specific issues, such as international travel. If you have an issue of particular concern to you that is outside the scope of our focus, reach out to us and we will, in turn, reach out to the network and see whether another group is focused on it.</p>
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		By: Sex Offender Truth		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-3/#comment-46036</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sex Offender Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2021 02:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-3/#comment-46021&quot;&gt;Mike&lt;/a&gt;.

This is interesting because I am in a similar situation. I also received probation with adjudication withheld. Unlike you I am at my 20 year mark next April 2022.

I moved to California in 2005 where I registered and which was until just last year it was for life just as with Florida. This is the first year of a tiered system (I am tier 1) which allows one to petition for removal here in California. I have retained an attorney to assist me (far from a sure thing but not totally impossible) and if successful, I then plan on attempting to have an attorney file a petition to remove from Florida next year at the 20 year mark.

Can you tell me the name of the attorney you have researched? You can contact the admin of this board for my email. As we are in similar situation, the result of my case (next year) could greatly benefit you as I would be attempting one year later.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/a-shallow-dive-into-new-justice-departments-rules-on-sorna/comment-page-3/#comment-46021">Mike</a>.</p>
<p>This is interesting because I am in a similar situation. I also received probation with adjudication withheld. Unlike you I am at my 20 year mark next April 2022.</p>
<p>I moved to California in 2005 where I registered and which was until just last year it was for life just as with Florida. This is the first year of a tiered system (I am tier 1) which allows one to petition for removal here in California. I have retained an attorney to assist me (far from a sure thing but not totally impossible) and if successful, I then plan on attempting to have an attorney file a petition to remove from Florida next year at the 20 year mark.</p>
<p>Can you tell me the name of the attorney you have researched? You can contact the admin of this board for my email. As we are in similar situation, the result of my case (next year) could greatly benefit you as I would be attempting one year later.</p>
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