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	Comments on: ACLU: Lawsuit Challenges Coercive Plea Bargaining Used to Punish Thousands of People for Exercising Constitutional Rights	</title>
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		By: Gerald		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2021 18:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/aclu-lawsuit-challenges-coercive-plea-bargaining-used-to-punish-thousands-of-people-for-exercising-constitutional-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-42477&quot;&gt;Bob&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Bob. It&#039;s obvious now that they were working out deals like it was a poker game. I&#039;ll get this sap to plead guilty in exchange for you reducing the charges for this guy, etc. The man never raised a single objection at any of the proceedings. That attorney died unexpectedly last year. I had to struggle with my own conscience not to celebrate. After all, he had a family who loved him too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/aclu-lawsuit-challenges-coercive-plea-bargaining-used-to-punish-thousands-of-people-for-exercising-constitutional-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-42477">Bob</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Bob. It&#8217;s obvious now that they were working out deals like it was a poker game. I&#8217;ll get this sap to plead guilty in exchange for you reducing the charges for this guy, etc. The man never raised a single objection at any of the proceedings. That attorney died unexpectedly last year. I had to struggle with my own conscience not to celebrate. After all, he had a family who loved him too.</p>
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		By: Bob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2021 13:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/aclu-lawsuit-challenges-coercive-plea-bargaining-used-to-punish-thousands-of-people-for-exercising-constitutional-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-42468&quot;&gt;Gerald&lt;/a&gt;.

Gerald, my bet is your public defender (ie public offender) sold you out to get a better deal on a different case. I&#039;m so sorry this happened to you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/aclu-lawsuit-challenges-coercive-plea-bargaining-used-to-punish-thousands-of-people-for-exercising-constitutional-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-42468">Gerald</a>.</p>
<p>Gerald, my bet is your public defender (ie public offender) sold you out to get a better deal on a different case. I&#8217;m so sorry this happened to you.</p>
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		By: Living History		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Living History]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2021 13:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/aclu-lawsuit-challenges-coercive-plea-bargaining-used-to-punish-thousands-of-people-for-exercising-constitutional-rights/comment-page-2/#comment-42475&quot;&gt;Ed C&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Ed C, I know first hand what happens if you go to trial in the federal system...you lose. Nearly all the rules and laws favor the feds. A citizen has nearly no chance at a fair trial. Then, upon a guilty verdict, you are punished way more harshly for exercising your rights (endowed by your Creator). And unless you beg for forgiveness at the alter of a fake God (ie the judge and prosecutor) for wasting their precious time, then they&#039;ll call you unrepentant and hammer you so incredibly harsh that your sentence is reminiscent of communist Cuba and Russia just because you exercised rights that they are sworn to uphold. This is treasonous behavior in my humble opinion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/aclu-lawsuit-challenges-coercive-plea-bargaining-used-to-punish-thousands-of-people-for-exercising-constitutional-rights/comment-page-2/#comment-42475">Ed C</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Ed C, I know first hand what happens if you go to trial in the federal system&#8230;you lose. Nearly all the rules and laws favor the feds. A citizen has nearly no chance at a fair trial. Then, upon a guilty verdict, you are punished way more harshly for exercising your rights (endowed by your Creator). And unless you beg for forgiveness at the alter of a fake God (ie the judge and prosecutor) for wasting their precious time, then they&#8217;ll call you unrepentant and hammer you so incredibly harsh that your sentence is reminiscent of communist Cuba and Russia just because you exercised rights that they are sworn to uphold. This is treasonous behavior in my humble opinion.</p>
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		By: Ed C		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2021 00:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/aclu-lawsuit-challenges-coercive-plea-bargaining-used-to-punish-thousands-of-people-for-exercising-constitutional-rights/comment-page-2/#comment-42473&quot;&gt;Jesse Herrera&lt;/a&gt;.

Fewer than 3% of federal cases go to trial.  I find it very cynical that a harsher sentence after trial is referred to as the &quot;trial penalty.&quot;  They don&#039;t blink an eye at the concept of a penalty for exercising a constitutional right.

Veritas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/aclu-lawsuit-challenges-coercive-plea-bargaining-used-to-punish-thousands-of-people-for-exercising-constitutional-rights/comment-page-2/#comment-42473">Jesse Herrera</a>.</p>
<p>Fewer than 3% of federal cases go to trial.  I find it very cynical that a harsher sentence after trial is referred to as the &#8220;trial penalty.&#8221;  They don&#8217;t blink an eye at the concept of a penalty for exercising a constitutional right.</p>
<p>Veritas.</p>
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		By: Dustin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dustin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2021 21:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is nothing new - DAs and judges have always been far more concerned with their conviction percentages and public defenders are basically just their errand boys.

I would like to hear a DA or judge explain how 10 years (for example) is perfectly fair if pleading guilty, but if taken to full trial the sentence must be higher. The most common excuse I&#039;ve always heard is lack of remorse, but I have 2 problems with that. First, a person cannot be remorseful for a crime they didn&#039;t commit and second, it touches on freedom of thought.

Another trick is to purposefully leave something out of the factual basis so a harsher sentence can be justified after conviction at full trial, going by the transcript of my own plea hearing and others I have read.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is nothing new &#8211; DAs and judges have always been far more concerned with their conviction percentages and public defenders are basically just their errand boys.</p>
<p>I would like to hear a DA or judge explain how 10 years (for example) is perfectly fair if pleading guilty, but if taken to full trial the sentence must be higher. The most common excuse I&#8217;ve always heard is lack of remorse, but I have 2 problems with that. First, a person cannot be remorseful for a crime they didn&#8217;t commit and second, it touches on freedom of thought.</p>
<p>Another trick is to purposefully leave something out of the factual basis so a harsher sentence can be justified after conviction at full trial, going by the transcript of my own plea hearing and others I have read.</p>
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		By: Jesse Herrera		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesse Herrera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2021 21:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[that is an incredible number, no wonder that someone remarked a few years ago that jury trials were a thing of the past.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is an incredible number, no wonder that someone remarked a few years ago that jury trials were a thing of the past.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2021 20:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/aclu-lawsuit-challenges-coercive-plea-bargaining-used-to-punish-thousands-of-people-for-exercising-constitutional-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-42465&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

Ok my memory is not as bad as I thought. Below is the link. Old Sheriff Joe had this headline back in the day and made International news because of the treatment of inmates.

&quot;Arizona&#039;s Tent City Jail: Where prisoners wear pink underwear, eat meatless meals and swelter in the 120-degree heat&quot;

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/arizonas-tent-city-jail-where-prisoners-wear-pink-underwear-eat-meatless-meals-and-swelter-in-the-120-degree-heat]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/aclu-lawsuit-challenges-coercive-plea-bargaining-used-to-punish-thousands-of-people-for-exercising-constitutional-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-42465">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>Ok my memory is not as bad as I thought. Below is the link. Old Sheriff Joe had this headline back in the day and made International news because of the treatment of inmates.</p>
<p>&#8220;Arizona&#8217;s Tent City Jail: Where prisoners wear pink underwear, eat meatless meals and swelter in the 120-degree heat&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/arizonas-tent-city-jail-where-prisoners-wear-pink-underwear-eat-meatless-meals-and-swelter-in-the-120-degree-heat" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/arizonas-tent-city-jail-where-prisoners-wear-pink-underwear-eat-meatless-meals-and-swelter-in-the-120-degree-heat</a></p>
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		By: David⚜️		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David⚜️]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2021 17:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I recall very clearly the judge in my case (nearly 40 years ago) threatening that, if I dared to opt for a jury trial and I as found guilty, he would give me the maximum sentence permitted under the law. 
My immediate thought was, &quot;Wait... Whose side are you on?  Aren&#039;t you supposed to be impartial?&quot;
Now I know what a joke &#038; lie that  judicial impartiality is!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall very clearly the judge in my case (nearly 40 years ago) threatening that, if I dared to opt for a jury trial and I as found guilty, he would give me the maximum sentence permitted under the law.<br />
My immediate thought was, &#8220;Wait&#8230; Whose side are you on?  Aren&#8217;t you supposed to be impartial?&#8221;<br />
Now I know what a joke &amp; lie that  judicial impartiality is!!</p>
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		By: A		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2021 17:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought this was the standard thing the legal system did. They do this in Texas. Why is this just now coming out?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this was the standard thing the legal system did. They do this in Texas. Why is this just now coming out?</p>
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		By: Sc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2021 16:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/aclu-lawsuit-challenges-coercive-plea-bargaining-used-to-punish-thousands-of-people-for-exercising-constitutional-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-42466&quot;&gt;Jesse&lt;/a&gt;.

94% of all criminal convictions are the direct result of accepting a plea on the State level, 97% on the Federal level.

*... the simple reality that 97 percent of federal convictions and 94 percent of state convictions are the result of guilty pleas. *

Source : https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/10-444#]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/aclu-lawsuit-challenges-coercive-plea-bargaining-used-to-punish-thousands-of-people-for-exercising-constitutional-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-42466">Jesse</a>.</p>
<p>94% of all criminal convictions are the direct result of accepting a plea on the State level, 97% on the Federal level.</p>
<p>*&#8230; the simple reality that 97 percent of federal convictions and 94 percent of state convictions are the result of guilty pleas. *</p>
<p>Source : <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/10-444#" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/10-444#</a></p>
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