Comments on: Altamonte Springs proposes ordinance to punish homelessness

By: USA2

USA2 — Thu, 28 Dec 2023 12:53:56 +0000

In reply to Big_Al_JaxFL. I think your wrong. There's plenty of success stories involving public housing. You're making faulty assumptions of it being connected with crime, just as people make false assumptions about children not being safe around registrant communities. A lot of times, the private sector doesn't step up to the plate, so state & local governments need to get involved in public and subsidized housing. And I'm speaking as a conservative. I don't want tramps sleeping & urinating on the sidewalk in front of my house because some "ideology" prevents the government from providing them housing in place of billions spent on new weapon systems.

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 19 Dec 2023 21:03:14 +0000

Did anyone see on fox website the new law passed that states small cities officials have to make public how much money they make and all business deals and a bunch quit. They as government employees state that doing so puts them,family and business in danger as in safety by making it public… how is it dangerous for them but not for us and ours is 100 times worse. I emailed the link to fac about it

By: Dustin

Dustin — Sat, 16 Dec 2023 20:56:01 +0000

Wrote the following to the city manager:

“Regarding the proposal to fine the homeless $500 or jail them for 60 days is an absolutely brilliant idea. But wouldn’t ordinances against mental health issues, drug addiction, unemployment, sex offender registration, or just plain bad luck be just as effective and do something to prevent homelessness in the first place? Just a thought…

Also curious why the one individual that inspired this particular piece of legislative brilliance couldn’t have been simply arrested for loitering. Seems pretty disingenuous to claim that would be cruel yet enact another law with different wording to apply to the same circumstance and carry equal or worse penalties.”

Anyone else that wants to write to him can do that here:

https://www.altamonte.org/FormCenter/City-Manager-9/Altamonte-Springs-City-Manager-Contact-F-72

By: Robert Curtis

Robert Curtis — Sat, 16 Dec 2023 18:19:37 +0000

In reply to Just Sayin.

I have successfully helped fight against people like Lauren Book in California. I had some help via ACSOL but mostly was on my own harnessing local communities by doing in salon and barber shop services to get people elected. I encourage you and all others to get involved with FAC by using your time, talents and resources. Together we WILL make change happen! I use to think that I am only one person…what can I do? Well, alone I did make an impact but together we made a change…now there is a tiered registry in California and many like myself are now off the registry. Together we can do the same in Florida!

By: Robert Curtis

Robert Curtis — Sat, 16 Dec 2023 18:05:42 +0000

Identify what homeless is. Many choose to live in their cars, rv, mini-vans and truck campers. So the term “less homeless” should also apply. How can we help people become less homeless? These people in vehicles are NOT homeless they are just houseless.

By: DavidM

DavidM — Sat, 16 Dec 2023 18:03:59 +0000

In reply to Ben. My mention of housing is not your typical government housing. The housing I mentioned is small individual units about 16 by 24’. They are simple with utilities and appliances. Furnished. There is a close association with law enforcement to make sure rules are followed and they are not defaced or vandalized in any way. There is a close association with social services to see that there needs are addressed and taken into account.

By: DavidM

DavidM — Sat, 16 Dec 2023 17:42:17 +0000

In reply to DavidM. You treat all people with respect and it’s amazing how many problems can be avoided.

By: DavidM

DavidM — Sat, 16 Dec 2023 17:31:29 +0000

The solution is really easier than they make it out to be. Kansas City is actually made up of 4 city destinations KCK,KC Mo, North Kansas City and Johnson County Kansas. They all work together in some form in dealing with it. Building mini homes free meals and clothing free transportation turning Motels which aren’t using there full capacity into residents for homeless. There is never any special destination as to there criminal history. That is irrelevant. I am not aware of ever any problems that were bad enough to make news. Law makers are making the problems not the homeless.

By: Big_Al_JaxFL

Big_Al_JaxFL — Sat, 16 Dec 2023 17:20:47 +0000

The compassion in out psyche says its horrible to be homeless. Giving homes to the homeless will create other problems, worse problems. Yes the govt has provided housing and in no time at all those were the havens for crimes of all sorts. Honestly, I dont believe it is the responsibility of the govt to provide housing. SOOO, That isnt the answer.

Making homelessness a crime also isnt the answer. We all know of, first hand, the horror stories connected with what leads to loss of housing.

We all know of, first hand, the horrible side effects of rules that cause homelessness. And the politicians all know the easiest way to remain in office is to create a problem (that may or may not exist) and then publicly tout how they fixed the problem.

What is the answer? IDK. But maybe more a hand up instead of a hand out? Definitely less rules that make criminals out of those trying to make it through tough times.

By: Just Sayin

Just Sayin — Sat, 16 Dec 2023 16:50:43 +0000

The government at all levels would rather waste tax dollars on jails and prisons but not mental health hospitals, addictions and job programs, or the like. The reason for such ideologies? Also politicians like Lauren Book and her ilk.