Comments on: AMENDED CALL TO ACTION #3 FOR SB 1230 and HB 1235

By: EdC

EdC — Sun, 14 Apr 2024 11:48:34 +0000

In reply to RayO. You've just illustrated one reason why I will never set foot in Florida. Its laws are so tangled that it is highly unlikely that a PFR won't violate some obscure state, county or city regulation. And it seems enforcement is up to the whims of county sheriffs. Some states like mine even prohibit counties and cities from adding additional requirements. This makes compliance at least possible.

By: CherokeeJack

CherokeeJack — Sun, 14 Apr 2024 01:03:09 +0000

In reply to tearfuleagle.

Tearfuleagle
Not correct. When I was sentenced, there was no registry so was no sentenced to any registry, offender nor predator. When I got released from prison, the state put me on the newly formed registry as an offender.
A judge cannot sentence you on the registry because supposedly the registry is not punishment so you cannot be sentenced to it. However the judge does tell you now that there is one that you will have to register. If he or she says “As part of your sentence, you must register” wouldn’t that automatically make it punishment, since it is part of your sentence?
MY God why can’t the judges see it for what it is, punishment. The judges should repeat Willy Wonka and say “You Lose! Good Day Sir!”

By: CherokeeJack

CherokeeJack — Sat, 13 Apr 2024 12:09:25 +0000

God bless those who get off the registry and a double dose to those who cannot get removed. I have heard stories in the past of even victims coming forward stating they wanted justice but many of them also agree the registry goes too far.
I guess on the other end of that spectrum are victims or even people who had nothing to do with our cases, wanting us all to be executed by firing squad.
Odd that a mass murderer can be released [citation needed] when their sentence is over and pretty much go on with their lives, other than having a felony. They can find a job somewhere eventually, for the most part live wherever they want, enjoy a day at the park and other activities as long as they do not reoffend.
We on the other hand, had many of us retro-actively placed on a lifetime registry scheme that cause not only us harm, but also our families. Every time I make a friend, they find out about my past and then of course they disappear and cut me off and block my phone #.
But hey, nothing to see here, it’s normal right???

[The moderator was unable to identify a case in the U.S. in which a convicted mass murderer was released into the community]

By: mike

mike — Sat, 13 Apr 2024 10:44:55 +0000

In reply to tearfuleagle. Your category is based on the statutes that you were convicted of. The qualifications are outlined in the sexual predator statute 775.21

By: CherokeeJack

CherokeeJack — Fri, 12 Apr 2024 19:39:58 +0000

I am very confused, Ron just one with the Florida Supreme court stating there must be a path off and at 20 years with no arrests you can petition to do just that. Can a Governor override the supreme court?????
Seems the law makers are throwing rocks and being bullies. I totally agree we must protect people from harm, but it goes so far that it affects our families who have done nothing wrong. Additionally, most of us have done our time with no other incidents, yet they claim all this is NOT punishment?

By: tearfuleagle

tearfuleagle — Fri, 12 Apr 2024 18:07:15 +0000

In reply to Tereto. Unless I am wrong the predator tag has to be pronounced by a Judge at sentencing. Or at least that is how it was before and I do not think this bill makes it retroactive.

By: Tereto

Tereto — Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:10:41 +0000

Nobody’s mentioned the predator clause listed in the bill. The one that makes everyone a predator, until a petition by the courts say otherwise. This is there way of circumnavigation, around the whole license issue, removal from registration, and a whole bunch of other issues, by classifying the majority as one group.

By: RayO

RayO — Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:51:45 +0000

So, I check out of a hotel on my 3rd day there. I guess I still have to now register that temp address even though I’m no longer there? Or maybe, I still plan to stay one more day, so I register the address and check out the next day. Do I then need to go back and un-register that temp address? It’s punitively comical.

By: Lauren NotBook

Lauren NotBook — Fri, 12 Apr 2024 14:39:25 +0000

In reply to Jacob.

To be perfectly candid, I’m currently so confused by what legislation has passed (this year and last year), what legislation hasn’t passed, and what changed with Harper v. Glass that I’m in desperate need of a “what’s allowed” refresher. It’s so involved and confusing that I just stay home…which I guess is their intent.

By: Jacob

Jacob — Fri, 12 Apr 2024 14:23:16 +0000

In reply to Lauren NotBook. On Lauren’s question re challenging HB1235, I assume we need to wait and see how Does v Glass (aka EPF I) turns out. Then we will need an attorney to identify what provisions of the U.S. Constitution, if any, are violated by HB1235.