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	Comments on: Edited: Another Out of State Challenge Fails in 11th Circuit	</title>
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	<description>Reforming Florida’s Sex Offender Registry Laws</description>
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		By: FAC Contributor #3		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-2/#comment-52245</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FAC Contributor #3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2022 20:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-2/#comment-52244&quot;&gt;WO&lt;/a&gt;.

This has been written about by Steven Yoder in the Appeal (https://theappeal.org/floridas-sex-offender-registry-proves-inescapable/) so it&#039;s a widely known issue. WO, would you step up to take lead on your suggestion that this be raised to the Feds?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-2/#comment-52244">WO</a>.</p>
<p>This has been written about by Steven Yoder in the Appeal (<a href="https://theappeal.org/floridas-sex-offender-registry-proves-inescapable/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://theappeal.org/floridas-sex-offender-registry-proves-inescapable/</a>) so it&#8217;s a widely known issue. WO, would you step up to take lead on your suggestion that this be raised to the Feds?</p>
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		By: WO		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-2/#comment-52244</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2022 20:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If it’s true that Florida continues to receive federal funding to manage the registry based on the numbers of registered citizens, it would seem Florida is defrauding the government of money. If Florida is getting funded for roughly 80k registrants when we have roughly 26k actually living in the state, shouldn’t that be a problem? That can be raised with the Federal government if it hasn’t already?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it’s true that Florida continues to receive federal funding to manage the registry based on the numbers of registered citizens, it would seem Florida is defrauding the government of money. If Florida is getting funded for roughly 80k registrants when we have roughly 26k actually living in the state, shouldn’t that be a problem? That can be raised with the Federal government if it hasn’t already?</p>
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		By: FAC Contributor #3		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52243</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FAC Contributor #3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2022 14:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52242&quot;&gt;Texas 30&lt;/a&gt;.

Texas 30, I appreciate your inquiries, but FAC is not a law firm or a travel advisor. Shawn Rolfe did a study a few years ago which you might find useful in your research. It can be found here: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0887403417742948]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52242">Texas 30</a>.</p>
<p>Texas 30, I appreciate your inquiries, but FAC is not a law firm or a travel advisor. Shawn Rolfe did a study a few years ago which you might find useful in your research. It can be found here: <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0887403417742948" rel="nofollow ugc">https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0887403417742948</a></p>
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		By: Texas 30		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52242</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas 30]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2022 14:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52241&quot;&gt;FAC Contributor #3&lt;/a&gt;.

please let us know the advantages of being off the registry, if i travel to florida and stay only 2 days in any location and keep traveling, will i need to register anywhere in florida. what would happen if the feds abolish the registry can the states still have their own?
seems to me there not a lot of advantages for being off when traveling in the u.s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52241">FAC Contributor #3</a>.</p>
<p>please let us know the advantages of being off the registry, if i travel to florida and stay only 2 days in any location and keep traveling, will i need to register anywhere in florida. what would happen if the feds abolish the registry can the states still have their own?<br />
seems to me there not a lot of advantages for being off when traveling in the u.s.</p>
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		By: FAC Contributor #3		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52241</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FAC Contributor #3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2022 15:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52240&quot;&gt;Texas 30&lt;/a&gt;.

If you VISIT a Florida County for 3 or more days consecutively or in the aggregate during a year you WILL have to register in Florida. A PERMANENT residence is if you remain 3 or more consecutive days in the same place. A TEMPORARY residence is if you remain 3 or more days in the aggregate per year in the same place and a TRANSIENT residence is if you remain in the same county 3 or more days without establishing a permanent or temporary residence.

This applies to visiting, vacation, business, leisure, etc. This applies even if you are OFF the registry in your home state. Once you leave Florida having established a residence, even for visiting, vacation, business, leisure, etc., you will remain on Florida&#039;s registry for LIFE (and even after death). Even if you are not on the registry in Texas anymore and you travel to Florida.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52240">Texas 30</a>.</p>
<p>If you VISIT a Florida County for 3 or more days consecutively or in the aggregate during a year you WILL have to register in Florida. A PERMANENT residence is if you remain 3 or more consecutive days in the same place. A TEMPORARY residence is if you remain 3 or more days in the aggregate per year in the same place and a TRANSIENT residence is if you remain in the same county 3 or more days without establishing a permanent or temporary residence.</p>
<p>This applies to visiting, vacation, business, leisure, etc. This applies even if you are OFF the registry in your home state. Once you leave Florida having established a residence, even for visiting, vacation, business, leisure, etc., you will remain on Florida&#8217;s registry for LIFE (and even after death). Even if you are not on the registry in Texas anymore and you travel to Florida.</p>
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		By: Texas 30		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52240</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas 30]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2022 14:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52238&quot;&gt;FAC Contributor #3&lt;/a&gt;.

that is what i am asking, you keep mentioning moving, i am not moving just visiting, vacation etc. if i am not on the registry in Texas anymore why would i have to follow any rules if just traveling to any state. it would not make any sense for us to follow the guidelines if we are not on any registry. what then are the advantages of being off the registry?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52238">FAC Contributor #3</a>.</p>
<p>that is what i am asking, you keep mentioning moving, i am not moving just visiting, vacation etc. if i am not on the registry in Texas anymore why would i have to follow any rules if just traveling to any state. it would not make any sense for us to follow the guidelines if we are not on any registry. what then are the advantages of being off the registry?</p>
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		By: FAC Contributor #3		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52239</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FAC Contributor #3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2022 17:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52236&quot;&gt;Eugene V. Debs&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s awesome - I watched his recent video and he is awaiting a written order, so we&#039;re also looking to see what it says. He did write that the asylum was specific to his case. Without discussing his case or putting him in a bad position (he&#039;s listed as &quot;Absconded&quot; from Florida), his was a civil commitment case. The civil commitment cases (which involve indefinite confinement) are a bit different (a lot different) than most of our cases. Your conclusion is a bit misguided, Eugene. Not suggesting this is not GREAT NEWS for him. It absolutely is! Then news just needs to be given with the caveat that the German Court did not say the registry is a human rights violation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52236">Eugene V. Debs</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s awesome &#8211; I watched his recent video and he is awaiting a written order, so we&#8217;re also looking to see what it says. He did write that the asylum was specific to his case. Without discussing his case or putting him in a bad position (he&#8217;s listed as &#8220;Absconded&#8221; from Florida), his was a civil commitment case. The civil commitment cases (which involve indefinite confinement) are a bit different (a lot different) than most of our cases. Your conclusion is a bit misguided, Eugene. Not suggesting this is not GREAT NEWS for him. It absolutely is! Then news just needs to be given with the caveat that the German Court did not say the registry is a human rights violation.</p>
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		By: FAC Contributor #3		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52238</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FAC Contributor #3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2022 16:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52237&quot;&gt;Texas 30&lt;/a&gt;.

Florida&#039;s registration is FOR LIFE if you were convicted of a specified offense or similar offense in another jurisdiction, UNLESS your obligation to register has been removed pursuant to 943.0435(11).
If you are OFF the registry in Texas and move to Florida having a conviction for an offense (&quot;Has been convicted of committing, or attempting, soliciting, or conspiring to commit, any of the criminal offenses proscribed in the following statutes in this state &lt;strong&gt;or similar offenses in another jurisdiction&lt;/strong&gt;&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52237">Texas 30</a>.</p>
<p>Florida&#8217;s registration is FOR LIFE if you were convicted of a specified offense or similar offense in another jurisdiction, UNLESS your obligation to register has been removed pursuant to 943.0435(11).<br />
If you are OFF the registry in Texas and move to Florida having a conviction for an offense (&#8220;Has been convicted of committing, or attempting, soliciting, or conspiring to commit, any of the criminal offenses proscribed in the following statutes in this state <strong>or similar offenses in another jurisdiction</strong>&#8220;</p>
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		By: Texas 30		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52237</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas 30]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2022 15:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52231&quot;&gt;FAC Contributor #3&lt;/a&gt;.

if you off the registry, how can any of this pertain to you. why be off the registry at all? the article you sent me to says if you are required to register, not if you have been convicted of. the only advantage is off iml. if i am not registered in any state why would we have to abide by any of in the article. just asking]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52231">FAC Contributor #3</a>.</p>
<p>if you off the registry, how can any of this pertain to you. why be off the registry at all? the article you sent me to says if you are required to register, not if you have been convicted of. the only advantage is off iml. if i am not registered in any state why would we have to abide by any of in the article. just asking</p>
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		By: Eugene V. Debs		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52236</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eugene V. Debs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2022 14:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52233&quot;&gt;FAC Contributor #3&lt;/a&gt;.

https://youtube.com/c/CommonSenseLaws

This is the guy YouTube page]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/another-out-of-state-challenge-fails-in-11th-circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-52233">FAC Contributor #3</a>.</p>
<p><a href="https://youtube.com/c/CommonSenseLaws" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtube.com/c/CommonSenseLaws</a></p>
<p>This is the guy YouTube page</p>
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