Comments on: Bills filed in both the Florida Senate and House that would allow the death penalty for child rapist https://floridaactioncommittee.org/bills-filed-in-both-the-florida-senate-and-house-that-would-allow-the-death-penalty-for-child-rapist/ Reforming Florida’s Sex Offender Registry Laws Fri, 10 Mar 2023 17:17:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: DavidM https://floridaactioncommittee.org/bills-filed-in-both-the-florida-senate-and-house-that-would-allow-the-death-penalty-for-child-rapist/comment-page-4/#comment-55826 Fri, 10 Mar 2023 17:17:06 +0000 https://floridaactioncommittee.org/?p=20780#comment-55826 In reply to Джосэф Пратт.

Patt
A few weeks ago I came across “29 things rich people have no concept of and if your not rich it’s incredibly infuriating “
# 16
“That we don’t have the same rights as rich people. I mean yeah the same laws apply to everyone ,but not everyone can afford lawyers or are able to skip work to go to court. And landlords and bosses Know this and will drag any procedure as long as possible until you quit.”
I can testify it’s true and might add prosecutors also know this. When I was charged and going through court they kept postponing it 3 times and 9 months. I would have to take off work plus pay my attorney for the day , just to get to Court waiting for my case just to find out the prosecution had it postponed. After the third time and 9 months later ,I caved in and plea bargained . My job was at stake and lawyer bills were mounting out of control. Much cheaper to settle than to keep fighting. Plus my attorney told me I had no chance of winning because the judge wouldn’t believe my word over theirs.

]]> By: Джосэф Пратт https://floridaactioncommittee.org/bills-filed-in-both-the-florida-senate-and-house-that-would-allow-the-death-penalty-for-child-rapist/comment-page-4/#comment-55825 Thu, 09 Mar 2023 19:18:35 +0000 https://floridaactioncommittee.org/?p=20780#comment-55825 In reply to Just plain tired.

Egregious/Outrageous Conduct-Entrapment isnt a Cruel and Unusual Punishment its an Illegal and Unconstitutional Tactic to get people Wrongfully Convicted.

]]> By: Just plain tired https://floridaactioncommittee.org/bills-filed-in-both-the-florida-senate-and-house-that-would-allow-the-death-penalty-for-child-rapist/comment-page-4/#comment-55824 Thu, 09 Mar 2023 03:48:58 +0000 https://floridaactioncommittee.org/?p=20780#comment-55824 In reply to Дгосэф Пратт.

Let’s not forget #10 subjecting the people to sheriff Grady fudd and those like him droning on and on about all those they entrap in they’re bs. stings and how great they are.

]]> By: DavidM https://floridaactioncommittee.org/bills-filed-in-both-the-florida-senate-and-house-that-would-allow-the-death-penalty-for-child-rapist/comment-page-4/#comment-55823 Wed, 08 Mar 2023 18:30:21 +0000 https://floridaactioncommittee.org/?p=20780#comment-55823 In reply to Disgusted in Michigan.

Ever since the federal government’ got involved in this in 1994 it was an open invitation to all the states and politicians to add to it and a free public band wagon to gather more votes. None of the laws have saved a single child only ways to help politicians get votes without doing anything but sponsor a bill they can sign their name to. Even the SCOTUS has shied away from it because if they take it up again they would have to admit to how they screwed it up the last couple times.

]]> By: Дгосэф Пратт https://floridaactioncommittee.org/bills-filed-in-both-the-florida-senate-and-house-that-would-allow-the-death-penalty-for-child-rapist/comment-page-4/#comment-55822 Wed, 08 Mar 2023 17:41:56 +0000 https://floridaactioncommittee.org/?p=20780#comment-55822 The State of Florida’s 9 Cruel and Unusual Punishments.

1.) Florida’s Sex Offender Registry.

2.) Florida’s Career Criminal/Habitual Felony Offender/Repeat Offender Registry.

3.) Florida’s Death Penalty/Capital Punshment.

4.) Florida’s Natural Life Sentencing Without Parole of Naturally Life Sentenced Offenders. (Natural Life Sentences Should Have A Maximum 25 Year Cap.)

5.) Florida’s Civil Commitment of those deemed to be Sexual Predators.

6.) Florida’s Civil Commitment of those deemed to be Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity.

7.) Florida’s Direct Filing Against Minors to Prosecute and Convict them as Adults.

8.) Florida’s use of Minimum Mandatory Sentencing.

9.) Florida’s use of the Indefinite Closed Management/Indefinite Solitary Confinement of its Incarcerated Persons.

]]> By: Disgusted in Michigan https://floridaactioncommittee.org/bills-filed-in-both-the-florida-senate-and-house-that-would-allow-the-death-penalty-for-child-rapist/comment-page-4/#comment-55821 Wed, 08 Mar 2023 17:10:29 +0000 https://floridaactioncommittee.org/?p=20780#comment-55821 I’m on the fence when it comes to my opinion of the death penalty. I don’t see it as a deterrent. It certainly deters the convicted person from ever doing it again, but does nothing to deter others. That’s why all states that have the death penalty still have people who commit murder. The death penalty, in my opinion, is just a way for the state to “get even”.
Having the death penalty as a punishment for child rape is not going to stop future child rapes, just like current laws on the books in every State is not going to deter future crimes.
The forcible rape of a child is indeed a very heinous crime and the guilty person needs to be severely punished, but I think the death penalty should be reserved only for those convicted of murder, sedition, and treason.

]]> By: paul yetter https://floridaactioncommittee.org/bills-filed-in-both-the-florida-senate-and-house-that-would-allow-the-death-penalty-for-child-rapist/comment-page-4/#comment-55820 Wed, 08 Mar 2023 15:57:44 +0000 https://floridaactioncommittee.org/?p=20780#comment-55820 Florida law already allows the death penalty for rape of children 11 and younger on paper. This was struck down by the state Supreme Court in 1985ish (and a similar Louisiana law was struck down by SCOTUS in 2008). So now the mandatory sentence for child rape in Florida is life in prison without the possibility of parole. Although I doubt that the average person in Florida is remotely aware of this, I’d expect the governor to be more knowledgable of this stuff than the average person.

I’m not sure what the legislature is trying to accomplish. They’re just changing Florida law to what it already was.

]]> By: Джосэф Пратт https://floridaactioncommittee.org/bills-filed-in-both-the-florida-senate-and-house-that-would-allow-the-death-penalty-for-child-rapist/comment-page-3/#comment-55819 Wed, 08 Mar 2023 14:44:05 +0000 https://floridaactioncommittee.org/?p=20780#comment-55819 In reply to Robert.

Bob, Joe. The act of legislation is written for children 11 and younger who are victims of sexual assault/sexual battery and not for adolescents who are victims of sexual assault/sexual battery.

]]> By: Jim https://floridaactioncommittee.org/bills-filed-in-both-the-florida-senate-and-house-that-would-allow-the-death-penalty-for-child-rapist/comment-page-4/#comment-55818 Tue, 07 Mar 2023 18:06:56 +0000 https://floridaactioncommittee.org/?p=20780#comment-55818 In reply to Jim.

And should it somehow pass, there needs to be an immediate injunction before this law is used to pressure anyone into a plea bargain after which, if this law is struck down in the courts, they would not be able to receive relief because the took the plea.

]]> By: DavidM https://floridaactioncommittee.org/bills-filed-in-both-the-florida-senate-and-house-that-would-allow-the-death-penalty-for-child-rapist/comment-page-4/#comment-55817 Tue, 07 Mar 2023 14:23:13 +0000 https://floridaactioncommittee.org/?p=20780#comment-55817 In reply to Jim.

Jim
You are so right on which I can testify to in my own experience. The kids that made up the accusations against me made up a story to keep from getting into trouble for messing around on private vacant property. Which I think was not something they came up with on their own but was suggested by someone else. The accusations weren’t even of contact but seeing me naked in my house through a small window on the side of my house. But I was never allowed to find out what they were doing or what they saw because a gag order was immediately filed. So they could not be questioned by anyone else. So I was never allowed to find out for myself what was going on.
There was no physical evidence ,no accusations of contact, no opportunity to even find out what they were saying so I could defend myself. All I was told is , I was charged with Lewd and Lascivious. Whatever that means . So vague it could be applied to almost anything without any evidence. Since it was all based on hearsay their word against mine I had no choice but to plea or risk going to jail.
Now that these then kids are around 40 and would probably not be afraid to tell the truth , I can’t find anyone that would be willing to question them and take it back to court, because lawyers tell me , because I plea bargained I cannot go back to court.
The system is rigged. So now what was originally a misdemeanor, no mention or knowledge of a sex registry, is because of constantly changing laws, I’m now classified a tier 3 with no chance of removal from the registry and all its restrictions. Reporting in every 90 days plus the month of my birthday and 6 months after,or go to jail. That is sometimes 6 times a year to the police station 20 miles away.

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