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	Comments on: Brevard County to Allow Registrants at Government Meetings	</title>
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		By: Capt Charles 'Bob' Munsey Jr. USN Ret		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49139</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Capt Charles 'Bob' Munsey Jr. USN Ret]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2022 20:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49127&quot;&gt;Just Sayin&lt;/a&gt;.

We are just into phase 1 of our attack on the unconstitutional efforts by some of the county commissioners.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49127">Just Sayin</a>.</p>
<p>We are just into phase 1 of our attack on the unconstitutional efforts by some of the county commissioners.</p>
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		By: BWJ		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49138</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BWJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2022 20:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49132&quot;&gt;Capt Charles &#039;Bob&#039; Munsey Jr. USN Ret&lt;/a&gt;.

Understood. Godspeed and good luck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49132">Capt Charles &#8216;Bob&#8217; Munsey Jr. USN Ret</a>.</p>
<p>Understood. Godspeed and good luck.</p>
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		By: Roger Mansfield		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49137</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Mansfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2022 15:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49132&quot;&gt;Capt Charles &#039;Bob&#039; Munsey Jr. USN Ret&lt;/a&gt;.

Bob,
We&#039;ve had the opportunity to talk about the situation with the suit several times. As a loud &#038; clear disclaimer, We NEVER discussed any details specific to the action, we always talked about the impact it has on our daily lives in very general terms.
As I said in my comment above, to myself, I have the utmost respect and admiration for your willingness to step forward and proceed publicly without listing yourself as &quot;John Doe #1&quot;. I am encouraged that the action will proceed to trial (hopefully) and that the courts will see through the County&quot;s attempt to give just enough ground to get the action dropped. I&#039;m not an attorney by any stretch, I simply think that if the court looks at the ordinance in it&#039;s totality it will rule in our favor and that result will be that we have unfettered access to more than just Commission meeting and a few County offices.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49132">Capt Charles &#8216;Bob&#8217; Munsey Jr. USN Ret</a>.</p>
<p>Bob,<br />
We&#8217;ve had the opportunity to talk about the situation with the suit several times. As a loud &amp; clear disclaimer, We NEVER discussed any details specific to the action, we always talked about the impact it has on our daily lives in very general terms.<br />
As I said in my comment above, to myself, I have the utmost respect and admiration for your willingness to step forward and proceed publicly without listing yourself as &#8220;John Doe #1&#8221;. I am encouraged that the action will proceed to trial (hopefully) and that the courts will see through the County&#8221;s attempt to give just enough ground to get the action dropped. I&#8217;m not an attorney by any stretch, I simply think that if the court looks at the ordinance in it&#8217;s totality it will rule in our favor and that result will be that we have unfettered access to more than just Commission meeting and a few County offices.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49136</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2022 13:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49135&quot;&gt;Roger Mansfield&lt;/a&gt;.

Roger

When I see some of these Sheriff&#039;s get giddy over sending someone to prison during &quot;Fake&quot; stings, it reminds me of the joy Hitler felt over killing innocent people. It takes a special kind of sickness to destroy an entire family&#039;s lives.

So many forget that these arrests a large swath of individuals. I understand if someone does something wrong, they have to pay a price. But shaming people who were caught in a fake sting on the tv before they are even found guilty cannot be reversed, the damage to that person&#039;s entire family will last for a long time.

And many of these people end up getting more time for a &quot;Fake&quot; sting with no victim, than someone who robs a store with a gun. Am I saying that none of the people caught are bad people? I do not know any of them, but the penalties do not seem to match the crime.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49135">Roger Mansfield</a>.</p>
<p>Roger</p>
<p>When I see some of these Sheriff&#8217;s get giddy over sending someone to prison during &#8220;Fake&#8221; stings, it reminds me of the joy Hitler felt over killing innocent people. It takes a special kind of sickness to destroy an entire family&#8217;s lives.</p>
<p>So many forget that these arrests a large swath of individuals. I understand if someone does something wrong, they have to pay a price. But shaming people who were caught in a fake sting on the tv before they are even found guilty cannot be reversed, the damage to that person&#8217;s entire family will last for a long time.</p>
<p>And many of these people end up getting more time for a &#8220;Fake&#8221; sting with no victim, than someone who robs a store with a gun. Am I saying that none of the people caught are bad people? I do not know any of them, but the penalties do not seem to match the crime.</p>
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		By: Roger Mansfield		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49135</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Mansfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2022 00:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49134&quot;&gt;Roger Mansfield&lt;/a&gt;.

I realized after I read my previous comment that I appeared skeptical or ungrateful. NOT EVEN CLOSE!! I know Bob Munsey as a good friend. The admiration I have for him, and the other gentlemen, is immeasurable. My skepticism is aimed squarely at the County and their political/legal wrangling to give absolutely as little as possible to just placate the courts while keeping the ordinance  99.5% intact.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49134">Roger Mansfield</a>.</p>
<p>I realized after I read my previous comment that I appeared skeptical or ungrateful. NOT EVEN CLOSE!! I know Bob Munsey as a good friend. The admiration I have for him, and the other gentlemen, is immeasurable. My skepticism is aimed squarely at the County and their political/legal wrangling to give absolutely as little as possible to just placate the courts while keeping the ordinance  99.5% intact.</p>
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		By: Roger Mansfield		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49134</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Mansfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2022 00:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmmmm….. what happens if I need to go to a non-county government office? Can I count on not being in violation of the ordinance if I need to go to a municipal City Hall or Building Dept? Can I stop by a municipal fire dept. station and have my blood pressure checked?  My fear is that the County Commission did just enough to pull the suit off the court docket thereby reducing its exposure to a proper judicial review. It’s a TREMENDOUS first step!! I fervently hope that it’s not the only step.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm….. what happens if I need to go to a non-county government office? Can I count on not being in violation of the ordinance if I need to go to a municipal City Hall or Building Dept? Can I stop by a municipal fire dept. station and have my blood pressure checked?  My fear is that the County Commission did just enough to pull the suit off the court docket thereby reducing its exposure to a proper judicial review. It’s a TREMENDOUS first step!! I fervently hope that it’s not the only step.</p>
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		By: Capt Charles 'Bob' Munsey Jr. USN Ret		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49133</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Capt Charles 'Bob' Munsey Jr. USN Ret]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2022 22:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nowadays we are dealing with some politicians who are part of a rhetorical political movement.  It is a movement that was somewhat initiated by Theodore Roosevelt and grew from there.  At one time in our nation&#039;s history our political leadership concentrated on ensuring the citizens that their efforts would be to support and operate under the dictates of the Constitution.  Then things started to happen.  Politicians started promising things they only hoped they could produce to gain political office, and many self-centered citizens started to believe them.  What is rhetoric?  It is showy, elaborate language that is empty and insincere.  One of the requirements for it to be politically effective is a crisis must be created. The process has three parts:

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  A &#039;wartime mentality&#039; must be established...convince the public it has an enemy and society must sacrifice to defeat this enemy.
    A vision of the future must be presented after this enemy is defeated.
    One must offer a style of leadership to defeat this enemy that can only be offered by one type of individual: the one being the politician.
       Today we see that effort being exercised throughout government.  In Brevard County that enemy is registered citizens.  And the county commissioners are the &#039;knights in shiny armor&#039; ready to rescue the county citizens from the plague of registered citizens.  The plague doesn&#039;t have to really exist; the citizen just must believe it does.  To defeat this, attack a counter group must take a stand and show up these politicians for what they are...phonies, liars, power hungry plagues on society, and those willing to ignore facts and truth to attain political goals.  It is not an easy task to take this stand, but it must be taken.  These politicians need to know that law abiding, property owning, tax paying citizens...who have paid completely their debt to society...are not going to sit back and let them run rampant over citizens.  It&#039;s time we let them know that their rhetoric has run its course and only honest, faithful service to all citizens will be accepted.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nowadays we are dealing with some politicians who are part of a rhetorical political movement.  It is a movement that was somewhat initiated by Theodore Roosevelt and grew from there.  At one time in our nation&#8217;s history our political leadership concentrated on ensuring the citizens that their efforts would be to support and operate under the dictates of the Constitution.  Then things started to happen.  Politicians started promising things they only hoped they could produce to gain political office, and many self-centered citizens started to believe them.  What is rhetoric?  It is showy, elaborate language that is empty and insincere.  One of the requirements for it to be politically effective is a crisis must be created. The process has three parts:</p>
<blockquote><p>
  A &#8216;wartime mentality&#8217; must be established&#8230;convince the public it has an enemy and society must sacrifice to defeat this enemy.<br />
    A vision of the future must be presented after this enemy is defeated.<br />
    One must offer a style of leadership to defeat this enemy that can only be offered by one type of individual: the one being the politician.<br />
       Today we see that effort being exercised throughout government.  In Brevard County that enemy is registered citizens.  And the county commissioners are the &#8216;knights in shiny armor&#8217; ready to rescue the county citizens from the plague of registered citizens.  The plague doesn&#8217;t have to really exist; the citizen just must believe it does.  To defeat this, attack a counter group must take a stand and show up these politicians for what they are&#8230;phonies, liars, power hungry plagues on society, and those willing to ignore facts and truth to attain political goals.  It is not an easy task to take this stand, but it must be taken.  These politicians need to know that law abiding, property owning, tax paying citizens&#8230;who have paid completely their debt to society&#8230;are not going to sit back and let them run rampant over citizens.  It&#8217;s time we let them know that their rhetoric has run its course and only honest, faithful service to all citizens will be accepted.
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		By: Capt Charles 'Bob' Munsey Jr. USN Ret		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49132</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Capt Charles 'Bob' Munsey Jr. USN Ret]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2022 21:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49131&quot;&gt;BWJ&lt;/a&gt;.

It is still moving forward to completion, but our lawyer has asked us not to discuss it until it is final.  The results are positive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49131">BWJ</a>.</p>
<p>It is still moving forward to completion, but our lawyer has asked us not to discuss it until it is final.  The results are positive.</p>
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		By: BWJ		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49131</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BWJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2022 15:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49130&quot;&gt;Capt Charles &#039;Bob&#039; Munsey Jr USN Ret&lt;/a&gt;.

Is the lawsuit still moving forward? And if so? Does this change anything?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49130">Capt Charles &#8216;Bob&#8217; Munsey Jr USN Ret</a>.</p>
<p>Is the lawsuit still moving forward? And if so? Does this change anything?</p>
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		By: Capt Charles 'Bob' Munsey Jr USN Ret		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/brevard-county-to-allow-registrants-at-government-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-49130</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Capt Charles 'Bob' Munsey Jr USN Ret]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2022 01:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While forward progress has been made, the current revision to the ordinance is still supported by the false information and lies that supported the 2006 ordinance.  The commissioners cannot claim ignorance of the subject because they have all received the 12 Media Blitz letters that provided them factual information as to the low recidivism rate for registered citizens.  It appears that four of the commissioners want to appeal to the uneducated public in an effort to retain their positions.  When facts are ignored by elected officials our society is in trouble and subject to the rule by tyrants.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While forward progress has been made, the current revision to the ordinance is still supported by the false information and lies that supported the 2006 ordinance.  The commissioners cannot claim ignorance of the subject because they have all received the 12 Media Blitz letters that provided them factual information as to the low recidivism rate for registered citizens.  It appears that four of the commissioners want to appeal to the uneducated public in an effort to retain their positions.  When facts are ignored by elected officials our society is in trouble and subject to the rule by tyrants.</p>
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