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	Comments on: CALL TO ACTION FOR FLOOR VOTES ON HB 1085 AND SB 1252 – RED LETTERING ON DRIVER’S LICENSES	</title>
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		By: Saddles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saddles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 04:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-1/#comment-56743&quot;&gt;Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow Derek, That&#039;s really not fair. What if someone called you pure evil instead of once fallen. I&#039;m sure we all understand the situation but getting paranoid is not the way. Authorities have a job to do and yes power can go to one&#039;s head even the person that got mixed up in this so called FTR.  or forced to registrar.

Nobody forces anyone or does a prostitute force one in bed when one goes to a cat house. Authorities know exactly what they are doing in these inducements to string one along. So is government the devil in disguise or the entice r or enforcer.

Sure people can call anyone in a name calling ruckus but we can&#039;t cry over spilled milk. Law enforcement know they are wrong or is that the way to skin a cat. A grain of salt goes a long way so either one uses it or loses it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-1/#comment-56743">Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com</a>.</p>
<p>Wow Derek, That&#8217;s really not fair. What if someone called you pure evil instead of once fallen. I&#8217;m sure we all understand the situation but getting paranoid is not the way. Authorities have a job to do and yes power can go to one&#8217;s head even the person that got mixed up in this so called FTR.  or forced to registrar.</p>
<p>Nobody forces anyone or does a prostitute force one in bed when one goes to a cat house. Authorities know exactly what they are doing in these inducements to string one along. So is government the devil in disguise or the entice r or enforcer.</p>
<p>Sure people can call anyone in a name calling ruckus but we can&#8217;t cry over spilled milk. Law enforcement know they are wrong or is that the way to skin a cat. A grain of salt goes a long way so either one uses it or loses it.</p>
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		By: Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-3/#comment-56756</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2023 18:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are many times you still need an ID card. Entering certain establishments, cashing or writing a check, and buying certain things (not just alcohol) require the showing of ID.

In addition, there are some states that have &quot;stop and identify&quot; statutes, some of which include a requirement to present ID. In AL and TN specifically, there are requirements that the Person Forced to Register carry their state ID at all times.

856.021 Loitering or prowling; penalty.—
(1) It is unlawful for any person to loiter or prowl in a place, at a time or in a manner not usual for law-abiding individuals, under circumstances that warrant a justifiable and reasonable alarm or immediate concern for the safety of persons or property in the vicinity.
(2) Among the circumstances which may be considered in determining whether such alarm or immediate concern is warranted is the fact that the person takes flight upon appearance of a law enforcement officer, refuses to identify himself or herself, or manifestly endeavors to conceal himself or herself or any object. Unless flight by the person or other circumstance makes it impracticable, a law enforcement officer shall, prior to any arrest for an offense under this section, afford the person an opportunity to dispel any alarm or immediate concern which would otherwise be warranted by requesting the person to identify himself or herself and explain his or her presence and conduct. No person shall be convicted of an offense under this section if the law enforcement officer did not comply with this procedure or if it appears at trial that the explanation given by the person is true and, if believed by the officer at the time, would have dispelled the alarm or immediate concern.

I would not advise people to not identify themselves to LE. Considering how loose LE is with interpreting such statutes, refusing to show ID could possibly be construed as concealing your identity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many times you still need an ID card. Entering certain establishments, cashing or writing a check, and buying certain things (not just alcohol) require the showing of ID.</p>
<p>In addition, there are some states that have &#8220;stop and identify&#8221; statutes, some of which include a requirement to present ID. In AL and TN specifically, there are requirements that the Person Forced to Register carry their state ID at all times.</p>
<p>856.021 Loitering or prowling; penalty.—<br />
(1) It is unlawful for any person to loiter or prowl in a place, at a time or in a manner not usual for law-abiding individuals, under circumstances that warrant a justifiable and reasonable alarm or immediate concern for the safety of persons or property in the vicinity.<br />
(2) Among the circumstances which may be considered in determining whether such alarm or immediate concern is warranted is the fact that the person takes flight upon appearance of a law enforcement officer, refuses to identify himself or herself, or manifestly endeavors to conceal himself or herself or any object. Unless flight by the person or other circumstance makes it impracticable, a law enforcement officer shall, prior to any arrest for an offense under this section, afford the person an opportunity to dispel any alarm or immediate concern which would otherwise be warranted by requesting the person to identify himself or herself and explain his or her presence and conduct. No person shall be convicted of an offense under this section if the law enforcement officer did not comply with this procedure or if it appears at trial that the explanation given by the person is true and, if believed by the officer at the time, would have dispelled the alarm or immediate concern.</p>
<p>I would not advise people to not identify themselves to LE. Considering how loose LE is with interpreting such statutes, refusing to show ID could possibly be construed as concealing your identity.</p>
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		By: Eugene V Debs		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-2/#comment-56755</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eugene V Debs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2023 17:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://finance.yahoo.com/news/florida-lawmakers-spread-misinformation-while-122900483.html

Looks like yahoo is running the press release as well.]]></description>
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<p>Looks like yahoo is running the press release as well.</p>
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		By: jed		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-1/#comment-56754</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2023 13:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-1/#comment-56739&quot;&gt;Education&lt;/a&gt;.

Brevard commissioners said &quot;insurance&quot; would cover the cost of the lawsuit they lost and acted like it was no big deal]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-1/#comment-56739">Education</a>.</p>
<p>Brevard commissioners said &#8220;insurance&#8221; would cover the cost of the lawsuit they lost and acted like it was no big deal</p>
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		By: jed		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-1/#comment-56753</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2023 13:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-1/#comment-56737&quot;&gt;Larry Robinson&lt;/a&gt;.

That is in the works too. To kill us, that is.

From what I understand, Book has a bill to give certain sex offenses the death penalty.  Are we looking into this new bill?

[&lt;em&gt;Moderator’s note: This bill is is now law. FAC’s take on this law may be found here:&lt;/em&gt;

https://floridaactioncommittee.org/bills-filed-in-both-the-florida-senate-and-house-that-would-allow-the-death-penalty-for-child-rapist/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-1/#comment-56737">Larry Robinson</a>.</p>
<p>That is in the works too. To kill us, that is.</p>
<p>From what I understand, Book has a bill to give certain sex offenses the death penalty.  Are we looking into this new bill?</p>
<p>[<em>Moderator’s note: This bill is is now law. FAC’s take on this law may be found here:</em></p>
<p><a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/bills-filed-in-both-the-florida-senate-and-house-that-would-allow-the-death-penalty-for-child-rapist/" rel="ugc">https://floridaactioncommittee.org/bills-filed-in-both-the-florida-senate-and-house-that-would-allow-the-death-penalty-for-child-rapist/</a></p>
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		By: Kyle M.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2023 09:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-2/#comment-56751&quot;&gt;tearfuleagle&lt;/a&gt;.

I currently have a State case against the FDLE Commissioner challenging the constitutionality of FSORNA as it applies to myself.  A hearing will be held on May 16 to decide his motion to dismiss my complaint.  If the red-letter bill is signed into law while my case is still pending, I was considering filing a motion for temporary emergency injunction. But since I am pro se, I want to make sure it is done correctly.  If their is an attorney out there who is willing to draft the motion to facially challenge the new law, I would be willing to file it my case so as to save the expense and hassle of having to initiate a new case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-2/#comment-56751">tearfuleagle</a>.</p>
<p>I currently have a State case against the FDLE Commissioner challenging the constitutionality of FSORNA as it applies to myself.  A hearing will be held on May 16 to decide his motion to dismiss my complaint.  If the red-letter bill is signed into law while my case is still pending, I was considering filing a motion for temporary emergency injunction. But since I am pro se, I want to make sure it is done correctly.  If their is an attorney out there who is willing to draft the motion to facially challenge the new law, I would be willing to file it my case so as to save the expense and hassle of having to initiate a new case.</p>
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		By: tearfuleagle		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-2/#comment-56751</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tearfuleagle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 14:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-2/#comment-56747&quot;&gt;Jacob&lt;/a&gt;.

Also FAC, do we know how much a temporary injunction costs?  I was thinking, just as we do with other activities, we could have a fund set aside just for that purpose.  Keep in mind an injunction in RI kept their residency restriction bill at bay for over 8 years and the registrant ended up winning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-2/#comment-56747">Jacob</a>.</p>
<p>Also FAC, do we know how much a temporary injunction costs?  I was thinking, just as we do with other activities, we could have a fund set aside just for that purpose.  Keep in mind an injunction in RI kept their residency restriction bill at bay for over 8 years and the registrant ended up winning.</p>
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		By: tearfuleagle		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-2/#comment-56750</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tearfuleagle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 14:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-2/#comment-56747&quot;&gt;Jacob&lt;/a&gt;.

Great Article and we all should be reaching out to Senator Lori Berman to thank her and give her other case law that show, if passed, this law would unconstitutional and ripe for lawsuits.  Also possible personal injury lawsuits as this would allow for harsh treatment, discrimination, and possible vigilantism against those on the registry.  We also need to thank the other senator for wanting to keep the public safe, which I think we all agree on.  However perhaps numbers an percentages of offenses should be provider to her as she lumps them all together pretty much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-2/#comment-56747">Jacob</a>.</p>
<p>Great Article and we all should be reaching out to Senator Lori Berman to thank her and give her other case law that show, if passed, this law would unconstitutional and ripe for lawsuits.  Also possible personal injury lawsuits as this would allow for harsh treatment, discrimination, and possible vigilantism against those on the registry.  We also need to thank the other senator for wanting to keep the public safe, which I think we all agree on.  However perhaps numbers an percentages of offenses should be provider to her as she lumps them all together pretty much.</p>
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		By: Shari Gonzalez		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-2/#comment-56749</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shari Gonzalez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 14:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It almost seems like these type of laws are disabling people that have served their sentences. When a person is in prison, they are assessed, offered treatment, and have a release date. When that ends, aren&#039;t they then under Parole rules and allowed to live the rest of their lives ? If the answer is &quot; yes &quot;, then EVERY state should respect the sentence given and follow it ! These type of added restrictions truly are grounds for people to apply for disability because they are being tracked like a lost pet. Even a pet has someone that cares for them - maybe someone should care for these people ! ? If I were under such guidelines, why would I even drive ? I would be asking for assistance to get to work ( if I could even get a decent job ) or I&#039;d apply for disability. I think ALL states should look at how people are being treated in other countries with low sex offences,  and try another way. In the USA this feels  Unconstitutional and undermines the rights for a person to serve a &quot; sentence &quot; - which is supposed to have an ending !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It almost seems like these type of laws are disabling people that have served their sentences. When a person is in prison, they are assessed, offered treatment, and have a release date. When that ends, aren&#8217;t they then under Parole rules and allowed to live the rest of their lives ? If the answer is &#8221; yes &#8220;, then EVERY state should respect the sentence given and follow it ! These type of added restrictions truly are grounds for people to apply for disability because they are being tracked like a lost pet. Even a pet has someone that cares for them &#8211; maybe someone should care for these people ! ? If I were under such guidelines, why would I even drive ? I would be asking for assistance to get to work ( if I could even get a decent job ) or I&#8217;d apply for disability. I think ALL states should look at how people are being treated in other countries with low sex offences,  and try another way. In the USA this feels  Unconstitutional and undermines the rights for a person to serve a &#8221; sentence &#8221; &#8211; which is supposed to have an ending !</p>
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		By: ULTRAMAGASEXOFFENDR		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-for-floor-votes-on-hb-1085-and-sb-1252-red-lettering-on-drivers-licenses/comment-page-2/#comment-56748</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ULTRAMAGASEXOFFENDR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 13:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I Don&#039;t take my Driver&#039;s Lic with me anymore Im old enough to Buy Gold jack so i don&#039;t need a Lic.

And if i do get pulled over i make the offer look me up by my birthday.

Yeah now thats what i will do if you make me get the Red letters

And make TOM HANKS gets his too

[&lt;em&gt;Note: The Moderator reminds all Members always to present government-issued ID whenever it is required by law&lt;/em&gt;].]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Don&#8217;t take my Driver&#8217;s Lic with me anymore Im old enough to Buy Gold jack so i don&#8217;t need a Lic.</p>
<p>And if i do get pulled over i make the offer look me up by my birthday.</p>
<p>Yeah now thats what i will do if you make me get the Red letters</p>
<p>And make TOM HANKS gets his too</p>
<p>[<em>Note: The Moderator reminds all Members always to present government-issued ID whenever it is required by law</em>].</p>
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