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	Comments on: CALL TO ACTION:  Oppose Miami Beach&#8217;s Plan to Criminalize Homelessness	</title>
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		By: Eugene V. Debs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eugene V. Debs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2024 14:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apparently the Supreme Court may hear a case on banning camping for the homeless https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/01/justices-take-up-camping-ban-case/

This could help the people in this situation since no shelter would take them they cannot be evicted from the area.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently the Supreme Court may hear a case on banning camping for the homeless <a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/01/justices-take-up-camping-ban-case/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/01/justices-take-up-camping-ban-case/</a></p>
<p>This could help the people in this situation since no shelter would take them they cannot be evicted from the area.</p>
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		By: Greig L		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greig L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2023 14:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-miami-beachs-plan-to-criminalize-homelessness/comment-page-3/#comment-58475&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

Well said and spot on. Texas is the same. I&#039;ve lived as a registrant in both states. If you don&#039;t have family support in a compliant location, you are screwed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-miami-beachs-plan-to-criminalize-homelessness/comment-page-3/#comment-58475">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>Well said and spot on. Texas is the same. I&#8217;ve lived as a registrant in both states. If you don&#8217;t have family support in a compliant location, you are screwed.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-miami-beachs-plan-to-criminalize-homelessness/comment-page-3/#comment-58474&quot;&gt;Eugene V. Debs&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey here is a neat idea, lets fill the understaffed jails with homeless people so there is no room for real criminals.

When a person gets released from prison, at least in Florida, you get ZERO help. If you do not have a ride, they give you a bus ticket to where you want to go. If you have no one and no place to go or your family wants nothing to do with you, you will most likely either end up on the street, re-arrested or end up dead.

Believe it or not, I talked to many guys in prison who said they purposely got re-arrested because at least in prison they got 3 meals a day. Also, basic health care (If you can call it that), a bed &#038; shower, TV to watch (If the only thing you ever want to watch is basketball) and some free time to walk the grounds. In some facilities you can work out on the weights if you can get to them due to guys three times your size hogging them every day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-miami-beachs-plan-to-criminalize-homelessness/comment-page-3/#comment-58474">Eugene V. Debs</a>.</p>
<p>Hey here is a neat idea, lets fill the understaffed jails with homeless people so there is no room for real criminals.</p>
<p>When a person gets released from prison, at least in Florida, you get ZERO help. If you do not have a ride, they give you a bus ticket to where you want to go. If you have no one and no place to go or your family wants nothing to do with you, you will most likely either end up on the street, re-arrested or end up dead.</p>
<p>Believe it or not, I talked to many guys in prison who said they purposely got re-arrested because at least in prison they got 3 meals a day. Also, basic health care (If you can call it that), a bed &amp; shower, TV to watch (If the only thing you ever want to watch is basketball) and some free time to walk the grounds. In some facilities you can work out on the weights if you can get to them due to guys three times your size hogging them every day.</p>
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		By: Eugene V. Debs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eugene V. Debs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2023 02:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It passed 4-3 
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/miami/news/miami-beach-commission-approves-plan-to-arrest-homeless-people-if-they-refuse-shelter-bed/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It passed 4-3<br />
<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/miami/news/miami-beach-commission-approves-plan-to-arrest-homeless-people-if-they-refuse-shelter-bed/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/miami/news/miami-beach-commission-approves-plan-to-arrest-homeless-people-if-they-refuse-shelter-bed/</a></p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2023 22:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-miami-beachs-plan-to-criminalize-homelessness/comment-page-3/#comment-58472&quot;&gt;Eugene V. Debs&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Those darn registrants getting under our skin again, can&#039;t we just throw them in a volcano?&quot;

Me visualizing what many law makers think of us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-miami-beachs-plan-to-criminalize-homelessness/comment-page-3/#comment-58472">Eugene V. Debs</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Those darn registrants getting under our skin again, can&#8217;t we just throw them in a volcano?&#8221;</p>
<p>Me visualizing what many law makers think of us.</p>
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		By: Eugene V. Debs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eugene V. Debs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2023 15:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They say the second reading is schedule for October 18th and it will be a public hearing. So now registrants went from segregated communities to now potential banishment from the city of Miami Beach. Has Mcare made any hints about this being fought in a lawsuit? Seems like registrants would make a good plaintiff, if they jury could overlook their prejudice. Registrants are more harshly affected by this new potential law than your typical homeless individual. If no shelters will take an induvial in that city and you buss them to a place that will except them, you are forbidden them to live in a certain place which is against the law. Seems the city thinks is offering an olive branch to the homeless in the choice: seek shelter at this particular location or we arrest you, however no such choice will be available to us, its simply leave this town or we arrest you. This Miami ordinance was modeled after the one in Orlando. In the Case Joel vs Orlando (2000), it seems the city was able to show that the shelter never reached its maximum capacity and other local organizations also exist to provide shelter and resources for the homeless. https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-11th-circuit/1287187.html#:~:text=That%20provision%20prohibits%20%E2%80%9Ccamping%E2%80%9D%20on,to%20the%20United%20States%20Constitution.
Seems he never challenged the available bed space the city quoted as having. Seems like our case would be different than Joel vs Orlando. Since the homeless are arguing there is no available bed space in Miami beach, especially for registrants. They would basically be banished from the beach area. And now the man in charge of the homeless trust will finally get his wish that registrants are barred from his community, how is this not plan malice?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They say the second reading is schedule for October 18th and it will be a public hearing. So now registrants went from segregated communities to now potential banishment from the city of Miami Beach. Has Mcare made any hints about this being fought in a lawsuit? Seems like registrants would make a good plaintiff, if they jury could overlook their prejudice. Registrants are more harshly affected by this new potential law than your typical homeless individual. If no shelters will take an induvial in that city and you buss them to a place that will except them, you are forbidden them to live in a certain place which is against the law. Seems the city thinks is offering an olive branch to the homeless in the choice: seek shelter at this particular location or we arrest you, however no such choice will be available to us, its simply leave this town or we arrest you. This Miami ordinance was modeled after the one in Orlando. In the Case Joel vs Orlando (2000), it seems the city was able to show that the shelter never reached its maximum capacity and other local organizations also exist to provide shelter and resources for the homeless. <a href="https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-11th-circuit/1287187.html#:~:text=That%20provision%20prohibits%20%E2%80%9Ccamping%E2%80%9D%20on,to%20the%20United%20States%20Constitution" rel="nofollow ugc">https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-11th-circuit/1287187.html#:~:text=That%20provision%20prohibits%20%E2%80%9Ccamping%E2%80%9D%20on,to%20the%20United%20States%20Constitution</a>.<br />
Seems he never challenged the available bed space the city quoted as having. Seems like our case would be different than Joel vs Orlando. Since the homeless are arguing there is no available bed space in Miami beach, especially for registrants. They would basically be banished from the beach area. And now the man in charge of the homeless trust will finally get his wish that registrants are barred from his community, how is this not plan malice?</p>
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		By: Eugene V. Debs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eugene V. Debs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2023 16:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is the link to the live Miami Beach homeless voting issue. It’s in lunch  break right now. At the beginning of the forum there were two people who spoke up with for the homeless with good well established facts But the other stuff is dull. https://www.youtube.com/live/Wou25j8zTF0?feature=shared]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the link to the live Miami Beach homeless voting issue. It’s in lunch  break right now. At the beginning of the forum there were two people who spoke up with for the homeless with good well established facts But the other stuff is dull. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/Wou25j8zTF0?feature=shared" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/live/Wou25j8zTF0?feature=shared</a></p>
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		By: Bwj		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bwj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2023 15:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-miami-beachs-plan-to-criminalize-homelessness/comment-page-3/#comment-58467&quot;&gt;Eugene V. Debs&lt;/a&gt;.

For some homeless,  it&#039;s considered banishment and the fix is affordable housing.   For registrants it&#039;s  all about public safety and banishment is the answer.  Reminds me of Orwell&#039;s Animal Farm. Some are more deserving than others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-miami-beachs-plan-to-criminalize-homelessness/comment-page-3/#comment-58467">Eugene V. Debs</a>.</p>
<p>For some homeless,  it&#8217;s considered banishment and the fix is affordable housing.   For registrants it&#8217;s  all about public safety and banishment is the answer.  Reminds me of Orwell&#8217;s Animal Farm. Some are more deserving than others.</p>
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		By: Eugene V. Debs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eugene V. Debs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2023 15:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-miami-beachs-plan-to-criminalize-homelessness/comment-page-3/#comment-58468&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree. It’s like they’re trying to create the “perfect city”. First it was us, very few spoke up. Now it’s the homeless more are speaking up. Which is a good thing in a Venn diagram the common theme is homelessness and a lot of registrants are homeless and more being forced homeless, every time the new ordinances are passed, and the rent goes up and they’re forced to try to find a new place but now they’re not grandfathered in then you have the homeless, which could be numerous reasons why they’re homeless, but still, it’s not a crime to be homeless, and now we have a larger group which is registrants plus homeless who are being excluded from South Beach or banishment which is against the constitution so if this goes to court, how can they still exclude us we’re part of the homeless and the only reason we’re homeless well the main reason we’re homeless, It’s because of the registry.  It’s like the old WW II saying 
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-miami-beachs-plan-to-criminalize-homelessness/comment-page-3/#comment-58468">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>I agree. It’s like they’re trying to create the “perfect city”. First it was us, very few spoke up. Now it’s the homeless more are speaking up. Which is a good thing in a Venn diagram the common theme is homelessness and a lot of registrants are homeless and more being forced homeless, every time the new ordinances are passed, and the rent goes up and they’re forced to try to find a new place but now they’re not grandfathered in then you have the homeless, which could be numerous reasons why they’re homeless, but still, it’s not a crime to be homeless, and now we have a larger group which is registrants plus homeless who are being excluded from South Beach or banishment which is against the constitution so if this goes to court, how can they still exclude us we’re part of the homeless and the only reason we’re homeless well the main reason we’re homeless, It’s because of the registry.  It’s like the old WW II saying<br />
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.<br />
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.<br />
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.<br />
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2023 14:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-miami-beachs-plan-to-criminalize-homelessness/comment-page-3/#comment-58467&quot;&gt;Eugene V. Debs&lt;/a&gt;.

@Eugene

Every homeless person is at least one of these:
Someone&#039;s Father
Someone&#039;s Mother
Someone&#039;s Son
Someone&#039;s Daughter
Someone&#039;s Friend
Someone&#039;s Uncle, Aunt, Niece, Nephew, Grandfather or Grandmother.
I could go on and on, but every person matters, regardless if they are the president of the United states or a Homeless person living behind a building. They both put on their pants the same way, although I am sure the President&#039;s pants cost more than my entire wardrobe. 
Although the chances of being the President is very slim, 1000s of people each day are just one paycheck away from being homeless.
If you are a Christian, a Muslim, Hindu, or Atheist, We all matter and God loves us all, even if some do not love Him Back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-miami-beachs-plan-to-criminalize-homelessness/comment-page-3/#comment-58467">Eugene V. Debs</a>.</p>
<p>@Eugene</p>
<p>Every homeless person is at least one of these:<br />
Someone&#8217;s Father<br />
Someone&#8217;s Mother<br />
Someone&#8217;s Son<br />
Someone&#8217;s Daughter<br />
Someone&#8217;s Friend<br />
Someone&#8217;s Uncle, Aunt, Niece, Nephew, Grandfather or Grandmother.<br />
I could go on and on, but every person matters, regardless if they are the president of the United states or a Homeless person living behind a building. They both put on their pants the same way, although I am sure the President&#8217;s pants cost more than my entire wardrobe.<br />
Although the chances of being the President is very slim, 1000s of people each day are just one paycheck away from being homeless.<br />
If you are a Christian, a Muslim, Hindu, or Atheist, We all matter and God loves us all, even if some do not love Him Back.</p>
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