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	Comments on: UPDATE 3- Senate Bill 234-Video of Rules Committee Meeting	</title>
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		By: Florida Action Committee		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39861</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Florida Action Committee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2021 21:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39858&quot;&gt;Jacob&lt;/a&gt;.

This has not been signed into law yet but it now says &quot;Effective Date: Upon becoming a law&quot;.
We will have to address this through the legal process.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39858">Jacob</a>.</p>
<p>This has not been signed into law yet but it now says &#8220;Effective Date: Upon becoming a law&#8221;.<br />
We will have to address this through the legal process.</p>
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		By: Also		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39860</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Also]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39859&quot;&gt;Registrant&lt;/a&gt;.

Am I reading right that if you stay at a hotel for three days and check out, you then have another 48 hours to register that address, at which time you would immediately de-register it also.

Am I reading too much into it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39859">Registrant</a>.</p>
<p>Am I reading right that if you stay at a hotel for three days and check out, you then have another 48 hours to register that address, at which time you would immediately de-register it also.</p>
<p>Am I reading too much into it?</p>
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		By: Registrant		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39859</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Registrant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39856&quot;&gt;JZ&lt;/a&gt;.

Some good news in the final bill, no?  No “being present.”  “Residing, lodging, or living” are clear enough.  I don’t know what “abiding” is or how the affects homes you simply visit a lot.

One can register up to 48 hours AFTER the third day?  Did I read that right?

The biggest downside, I think, is that hotel stays (non-registerable) are down from three nights to two.

FAC am I reading this accurately?

Is vehicle registration online now?

Many thanks again to our volunteer committees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39856">JZ</a>.</p>
<p>Some good news in the final bill, no?  No “being present.”  “Residing, lodging, or living” are clear enough.  I don’t know what “abiding” is or how the affects homes you simply visit a lot.</p>
<p>One can register up to 48 hours AFTER the third day?  Did I read that right?</p>
<p>The biggest downside, I think, is that hotel stays (non-registerable) are down from three nights to two.</p>
<p>FAC am I reading this accurately?</p>
<p>Is vehicle registration online now?</p>
<p>Many thanks again to our volunteer committees.</p>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39858</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39856&quot;&gt;JZ&lt;/a&gt;.

FAC didn’t you say Oct 1 is the effective date? Is that still accurate?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39856">JZ</a>.</p>
<p>FAC didn’t you say Oct 1 is the effective date? Is that still accurate?</p>
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		By: Jed		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39857</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39851&quot;&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;.

David,
If I read the law correctly, you can&#039;t just make a list and hand it to them at re registration time.  All temporary residences have to be reported within 48 hours.  If you wait until re registration time, you could be arrested for 100&#039;s of felonies for waiting to register after the allowed limit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39851">David</a>.</p>
<p>David,<br />
If I read the law correctly, you can&#8217;t just make a list and hand it to them at re registration time.  All temporary residences have to be reported within 48 hours.  If you wait until re registration time, you could be arrested for 100&#8217;s of felonies for waiting to register after the allowed limit.</p>
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		By: JZ		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39856</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39853&quot;&gt;AL in Jax&lt;/a&gt;.

The bill has essentially become law effective date as soon as Gubna DeSatanist signs it.

SB 234 3/18/2021 Senate – CS passed; YEAS 39 NAYS 0; Immediately Certified; House – In Messages

Here&#039;s the final text of the bill:

https://flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2021/234/BillText/c2/PDF

I concur with the business exception. The analysis of the bill seems to confirm that:

According to the FDLE, the previously-described language specifies the existing protocols and practices utilized with Florida registration laws for over two decades.

&lt;code&gt;A calendar day is a day; Midnight to 11:59pm, 365/366 days a year.
Residing, abiding, lodging, or living for any part of a day at a location/address counts as one (1) day.
Tracking other judicial rules and Florida Statutes, the first day at a newly established location is not counted in calculating the number of days to determine residency for the purposes of registration.
The 48 hours to register a permanent, temporary, or transient residence begins after the third calendar day counted towards residency (i.e. the 4th day at the location) regardless of what time the person departs the residence on the third day or anytime
&lt;/code&gt;

afterwards.

The FDLE provides the following additional comments regarding the protocols on calculating days and the language in the bill that codifies that protocol:

&lt;code&gt;This protocol carries the benefits of eliminating any need or question regarding “stopwatch” timing or calculating across calendar days or time zones to determine residency on the part of those required to register or those tasked with enforcing or prosecuting registration laws.
Nothing precludes a person from registering a residence earlier, if more convenient for them, prior to remaining at a location/address for the 3 days establishing the location as a registerable residence or the 48 hour reporting period that follows.
The language does not in any way alter the existing definitions of permanent, temporary or transient residences. The definitions for what qualify as a permanent, temporary and transient residence remain the same.
&lt;/code&gt;

https://flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2021/234/Analyses/2021s00234.rc.PDF]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39853">AL in Jax</a>.</p>
<p>The bill has essentially become law effective date as soon as Gubna DeSatanist signs it.</p>
<p>SB 234 3/18/2021 Senate – CS passed; YEAS 39 NAYS 0; Immediately Certified; House – In Messages</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the final text of the bill:</p>
<p><a href="https://flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2021/234/BillText/c2/PDF" rel="nofollow ugc">https://flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2021/234/BillText/c2/PDF</a></p>
<p>I concur with the business exception. The analysis of the bill seems to confirm that:</p>
<p>According to the FDLE, the previously-described language specifies the existing protocols and practices utilized with Florida registration laws for over two decades.</p>
<p><code>A calendar day is a day; Midnight to 11:59pm, 365/366 days a year.<br />
Residing, abiding, lodging, or living for any part of a day at a location/address counts as one (1) day.<br />
Tracking other judicial rules and Florida Statutes, the first day at a newly established location is not counted in calculating the number of days to determine residency for the purposes of registration.<br />
The 48 hours to register a permanent, temporary, or transient residence begins after the third calendar day counted towards residency (i.e. the 4th day at the location) regardless of what time the person departs the residence on the third day or anytime<br />
</code></p>
<p>afterwards.</p>
<p>The FDLE provides the following additional comments regarding the protocols on calculating days and the language in the bill that codifies that protocol:</p>
<p><code>This protocol carries the benefits of eliminating any need or question regarding “stopwatch” timing or calculating across calendar days or time zones to determine residency on the part of those required to register or those tasked with enforcing or prosecuting registration laws.<br />
Nothing precludes a person from registering a residence earlier, if more convenient for them, prior to remaining at a location/address for the 3 days establishing the location as a registerable residence or the 48 hour reporting period that follows.<br />
The language does not in any way alter the existing definitions of permanent, temporary or transient residences. The definitions for what qualify as a permanent, temporary and transient residence remain the same.<br />
</code></p>
<p><a href="https://flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2021/234/Analyses/2021s00234.rc.PDF" rel="nofollow ugc">https://flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2021/234/Analyses/2021s00234.rc.PDF</a></p>
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		By: JJJJ		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39855</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJJJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39853&quot;&gt;AL in Jax&lt;/a&gt;.

As usual, they are making up the rules as they go and flying by the seat of their pants. 
I&#039;d like to plant something else along the seats of their pants! - A size 12 boot!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39853">AL in Jax</a>.</p>
<p>As usual, they are making up the rules as they go and flying by the seat of their pants.<br />
I&#8217;d like to plant something else along the seats of their pants! &#8211; A size 12 boot!</p>
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		By: Tereto		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-7/#comment-39854</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tereto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2021 17:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://omaha.com/news/crime/omaha-sex-offender-who-said-he-was-on-the-hunt-for-kids-gets-maximum-sentence/article_3a8a37c7-9d78-58be-b72c-cc2065a52bfd.html

Here&#039;s a perfect example of why sex offender laws protect noone. It&#039;s one of those worst case scenarios.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://omaha.com/news/crime/omaha-sex-offender-who-said-he-was-on-the-hunt-for-kids-gets-maximum-sentence/article_3a8a37c7-9d78-58be-b72c-cc2065a52bfd.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://omaha.com/news/crime/omaha-sex-offender-who-said-he-was-on-the-hunt-for-kids-gets-maximum-sentence/article_3a8a37c7-9d78-58be-b72c-cc2065a52bfd.html</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a perfect example of why sex offender laws protect noone. It&#8217;s one of those worst case scenarios.</p>
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		By: AL in Jax		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39853</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AL in Jax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2021 17:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is my re-reg month and I am here in Duval county.  Being disabled I do have an arrangement with one of the detectives for my re-reg requirements.  Today, I called the Felony Registration office and the Ofc who answered the phone was polite and kind as he took care of my re-reg requirements.

ONE of the questions was about temporary residence.  As required, I have included the address of the Naval Hospital.  The Ofc asked do I stay there and I responded that I have been required to spend many overnight visits for medical procedures.  He told me &quot;Well this is technically a business, and we DONT want someone to look you up and assume your living there.  Lets remove this from your re-reg document.

IF in the future you have to go back into the hospital, just give us a call and we will add the address and when your treatment is complete it will be deleted&quot;.

Hmmmmm.  How will this change when/if this bill becomes law?

Sharing an experience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my re-reg month and I am here in Duval county.  Being disabled I do have an arrangement with one of the detectives for my re-reg requirements.  Today, I called the Felony Registration office and the Ofc who answered the phone was polite and kind as he took care of my re-reg requirements.</p>
<p>ONE of the questions was about temporary residence.  As required, I have included the address of the Naval Hospital.  The Ofc asked do I stay there and I responded that I have been required to spend many overnight visits for medical procedures.  He told me &#8220;Well this is technically a business, and we DONT want someone to look you up and assume your living there.  Lets remove this from your re-reg document.</p>
<p>IF in the future you have to go back into the hospital, just give us a call and we will add the address and when your treatment is complete it will be deleted&#8221;.</p>
<p>Hmmmmm.  How will this change when/if this bill becomes law?</p>
<p>Sharing an experience.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39852</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2021 21:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39851&quot;&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;.

David

A great idea for us to do if this passes. EVERY single registered person needs to show up on the first day of the month even though you have all month to register in most cases. Everyone can spend hours at a time registering their list of places they were that day.
The next day another group can do the same thing. They would have to hire an entire team of registry goons to keep up. It would litterally break the internet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-oppose-senate-bill-234-2/comment-page-6/#comment-39851">David</a>.</p>
<p>David</p>
<p>A great idea for us to do if this passes. EVERY single registered person needs to show up on the first day of the month even though you have all month to register in most cases. Everyone can spend hours at a time registering their list of places they were that day.<br />
The next day another group can do the same thing. They would have to hire an entire team of registry goons to keep up. It would litterally break the internet.</p>
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