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	Comments on: CALL TO ACTION: Proposed Sex Offender Ordinance in Crestview City, FL	</title>
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	<description>Reforming Florida’s Sex Offender Registry Laws</description>
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		By: Gaslighted		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-2/#comment-58793</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gaslighted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 19:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-2/#comment-58776&quot;&gt;VOCAL&lt;/a&gt;.

You are correct. I am one of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-2/#comment-58776">VOCAL</a>.</p>
<p>You are correct. I am one of them.</p>
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		By: Eugene V. Debs		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-4/#comment-58792</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eugene V. Debs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Couldn’t this new law help us?https://casetext.com/statute/florida-statutes/title-vi-civil-practice-and-procedure/chapter-57-court-costs/section-57112-effective-1012023-attorney-fees-and-costs-and-damages-arbitrary-unreasonable-or-expressly-preempted-local-ordinances]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn’t this new law help us?<a href="https://casetext.com/statute/florida-statutes/title-vi-civil-practice-and-procedure/chapter-57-court-costs/section-57112-effective-1012023-attorney-fees-and-costs-and-damages-arbitrary-unreasonable-or-expressly-preempted-local-ordinances" rel="nofollow ugc">https://casetext.com/statute/florida-statutes/title-vi-civil-practice-and-procedure/chapter-57-court-costs/section-57112-effective-1012023-attorney-fees-and-costs-and-damages-arbitrary-unreasonable-or-expressly-preempted-local-ordinances</a></p>
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		By: Eugene V. Debs		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-3/#comment-58791</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eugene V. Debs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 16:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-3/#comment-58789&quot;&gt;Larry&lt;/a&gt;.

It fits to a T what there doing to us and why a Bill of retainer might be a good thing to look into seeing that is is the new trend putting more burdens upon us based on nothing but the need to feel safe

A statute which inflicts its deprivation upon named or described persons or groups constitutes a bill of attainder whether its aim is retributive, punishing past acts, or preventive, discouraging future conduct. In America Communications Ass’n v. Douds, 339 U. S. 382, where the Court upheld § 9(h) of the National
Page 381 U. S. 438

It’s discouraging future conduct by preventing us from moving there making it essentially a no go zone or a banishment zone. Their stated goal was to make it uninhabitable for Registrants that makes us the targeted sub class instead of the socialist an example. Also “described persons“ makes it blatantly clear that they describe these laws to affect us, and only us thereby singling us out should be more reason of a bill retainer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-3/#comment-58789">Larry</a>.</p>
<p>It fits to a T what there doing to us and why a Bill of retainer might be a good thing to look into seeing that is is the new trend putting more burdens upon us based on nothing but the need to feel safe</p>
<p>A statute which inflicts its deprivation upon named or described persons or groups constitutes a bill of attainder whether its aim is retributive, punishing past acts, or preventive, discouraging future conduct. In America Communications Ass’n v. Douds, 339 U. S. 382, where the Court upheld § 9(h) of the National<br />
Page 381 U. S. 438</p>
<p>It’s discouraging future conduct by preventing us from moving there making it essentially a no go zone or a banishment zone. Their stated goal was to make it uninhabitable for Registrants that makes us the targeted sub class instead of the socialist an example. Also “described persons“ makes it blatantly clear that they describe these laws to affect us, and only us thereby singling us out should be more reason of a bill retainer.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-3/#comment-58790</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-3/#comment-58788&quot;&gt;Eugene V. Debs&lt;/a&gt;.

@Eugene

All of us have found busloads of evidence that the registry is punishment. The sad fact of the matter is, until the courts pull their heads out of the sand and their fingers out of their ears while humming la la la, we cannot move the mountain and inch.

Even the judges who want to find for us, they seem unwilling to get a lashing from their peers as labeled a sex offender advocate.
They need to take a fresh look at the definition of justice and fairness in the law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-3/#comment-58788">Eugene V. Debs</a>.</p>
<p>@Eugene</p>
<p>All of us have found busloads of evidence that the registry is punishment. The sad fact of the matter is, until the courts pull their heads out of the sand and their fingers out of their ears while humming la la la, we cannot move the mountain and inch.</p>
<p>Even the judges who want to find for us, they seem unwilling to get a lashing from their peers as labeled a sex offender advocate.<br />
They need to take a fresh look at the definition of justice and fairness in the law.</p>
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		By: Larry		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-3/#comment-58789</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 14:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-3/#comment-58788&quot;&gt;Eugene V. Debs&lt;/a&gt;.

Good article glad you shared]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-3/#comment-58788">Eugene V. Debs</a>.</p>
<p>Good article glad you shared</p>
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		By: Eugene V. Debs		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-3/#comment-58788</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eugene V. Debs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 13:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-supreme-court/381/437.html

(a) The Bill of Attainder Clause, Art. I, § 9, cl. 3, was intended to implement the separation of powers among the three branches of the Government by guarding against the legislative exercise of judicial power. Pp. 381 U. S. 441-446.
(b) The Bill of Attainder Clause is to be liberally construed in the light of its purpose to prevent legislative punishment of designated persons or groups. Cummins v. Missouri, 4 Wall. 277; Ex parte Garland, 4 Wall. 333; United States v. Lovett, 328 U. S. 303. Pp. 381 U. S. 447-449.

f) A statute which inflicts its deprivation upon named or described persons or groups constitutes a bill of attainder whether its aim is retributive, punishing past acts, or preventive, discouraging future conduct. In America Communications Ass&#039;n v. Douds, 339 U. S. 382, where the Court upheld § 9(h) of the National
Page 381 U. S. 438

James Madison wrote:
&quot;The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-supreme-court/381/437.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-supreme-court/381/437.html</a></p>
<p>(a) The Bill of Attainder Clause, Art. I, § 9, cl. 3, was intended to implement the separation of powers among the three branches of the Government by guarding against the legislative exercise of judicial power. Pp. 381 U. S. 441-446.<br />
(b) The Bill of Attainder Clause is to be liberally construed in the light of its purpose to prevent legislative punishment of designated persons or groups. Cummins v. Missouri, 4 Wall. 277; Ex parte Garland, 4 Wall. 333; United States v. Lovett, 328 U. S. 303. Pp. 381 U. S. 447-449.</p>
<p>f) A statute which inflicts its deprivation upon named or described persons or groups constitutes a bill of attainder whether its aim is retributive, punishing past acts, or preventive, discouraging future conduct. In America Communications Ass&#8217;n v. Douds, 339 U. S. 382, where the Court upheld § 9(h) of the National<br />
Page 381 U. S. 438</p>
<p>James Madison wrote:<br />
&#8220;The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Eugene V. Debs		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-3/#comment-58787</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eugene V. Debs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 10:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If anyone wants to see the meeting 
https://www.cityofcrestview.org/546/Agendas-Minutes]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone wants to see the meeting<br />
<a href="https://www.cityofcrestview.org/546/Agendas-Minutes" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.cityofcrestview.org/546/Agendas-Minutes</a></p>
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		By: Archie		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-3/#comment-58786</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Archie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 02:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-3/#comment-58785&quot;&gt;Archie&lt;/a&gt;.

That did not make sence. What I ment to say was, the Crestview attorney said there are about cities that are going to a larger banishment zone (although he did not use the word banashment).  He believes the new ordnance will hold up.  The only way we can stop it is to fight it.  My wife and I stand ready to do what we can here in Crestview.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-3/#comment-58785">Archie</a>.</p>
<p>That did not make sence. What I ment to say was, the Crestview attorney said there are about cities that are going to a larger banishment zone (although he did not use the word banashment).  He believes the new ordnance will hold up.  The only way we can stop it is to fight it.  My wife and I stand ready to do what we can here in Crestview.</p>
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		By: Archie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Archie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 00:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, looks like it time for a court fight.  We need to see the legal language next, and go from there.  The cities lawyer said there are about 60 cities that have large ordnance agents sex offenders.  Crestview lawyer this ordnance should hold up in court.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, looks like it time for a court fight.  We need to see the legal language next, and go from there.  The cities lawyer said there are about 60 cities that have large ordnance agents sex offenders.  Crestview lawyer this ordnance should hold up in court.</p>
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		By: VOCAL		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-1/#comment-58784</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VOCAL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2023 06:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-1/#comment-58752&quot;&gt;DavidM&lt;/a&gt;.

DavidM:
Michigan&#039;s 1,000 foot rule was found unconstitutional and was removed from the books.  Now registrants can even live across the street from a school, park, etc. in Michigan.  They can even work in an elementary school in Michigan.  I don&#039;t believe they would ever be hired by a school, but I bet some have worked in schools as private contractors doing carpentry work, etc.  What needs to be done is registrants find out why Michigan&#039;s 1,000 foot rule was found to be unconstitutional and try to replicate it in their own state.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/call-to-action-proposed-sex-offender-ordinance-in-crestview-city-fl/comment-page-1/#comment-58752">DavidM</a>.</p>
<p>DavidM:<br />
Michigan&#8217;s 1,000 foot rule was found unconstitutional and was removed from the books.  Now registrants can even live across the street from a school, park, etc. in Michigan.  They can even work in an elementary school in Michigan.  I don&#8217;t believe they would ever be hired by a school, but I bet some have worked in schools as private contractors doing carpentry work, etc.  What needs to be done is registrants find out why Michigan&#8217;s 1,000 foot rule was found to be unconstitutional and try to replicate it in their own state.</p>
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