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	Comments on: Civilian sex stings aim at &#8216;street justice&#8217;	</title>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2021 19:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chris Hansen jailed (fails to appear to explain withholding from defense):

https://apnews.com/article/arts-and-entertainment-8faadccd0ce1c7d10fcbe4480cecab8e]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Hansen jailed (fails to appear to explain withholding from defense):</p>
<p><a href="https://apnews.com/article/arts-and-entertainment-8faadccd0ce1c7d10fcbe4480cecab8e" rel="nofollow ugc">https://apnews.com/article/arts-and-entertainment-8faadccd0ce1c7d10fcbe4480cecab8e</a></p>
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		By: Bwj		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-41619</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bwj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2021 16:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-41598&quot;&gt;Lady Justice Myth&lt;/a&gt;.

Any reply?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-41598">Lady Justice Myth</a>.</p>
<p>Any reply?</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-3/#comment-41618</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2021 20:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-3/#comment-41612&quot;&gt;Detroit&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually

Adam West was not the original Batman.

Lewis Gilbert Wilson was an American actor, who was most famous for being the first actor to play DC Comics character Batman on screen in the 1943 film serial Batman.


Yes I cheated and Googled it, I didn&#039;t even know that.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-3/#comment-41612">Detroit</a>.</p>
<p>Actually</p>
<p>Adam West was not the original Batman.</p>
<p>Lewis Gilbert Wilson was an American actor, who was most famous for being the first actor to play DC Comics character Batman on screen in the 1943 film serial Batman.</p>
<p>Yes I cheated and Googled it, I didn&#8217;t even know that.</p>
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		By: Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-3/#comment-41617</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2021 20:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I bypassed the paywall. The rest of this article all but glorifies these pathetic thugs. It sickens me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bypassed the paywall. The rest of this article all but glorifies these pathetic thugs. It sickens me.</p>
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		By: DavidM		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-2/#comment-41616</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2021 15:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-2/#comment-41613&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

CherokeeJack 
   You think we could get someone to lobby for a Batman assault registry? After all that would  accomplish more good than a sex offender registry which only harms children and innocent  people. After all politicians fell for that fairytale. 
 Sorry about the mistake.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-2/#comment-41613">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>CherokeeJack<br />
   You think we could get someone to lobby for a Batman assault registry? After all that would  accomplish more good than a sex offender registry which only harms children and innocent  people. After all politicians fell for that fairytale.<br />
 Sorry about the mistake.</p>
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		By: Ed C		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-41615</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2021 03:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-41596&quot;&gt;A&lt;/a&gt;.

Police simply have no incentive to actually stop crime.  Law enforcement (LE) and prosecutors get funding and promotions not for reducing crime, but for arrests and convictions.  Child pornography (CP) is a case in point.  Most who are involved in CP are not producers but consumers/viewers.  Producers are probably a lost cause for deterrence efforts.  They do it because they like it, they are selling porn or both.  If they chose, LE could seriously reduce the harm done to children by consumers.

One of the common LE and prosecutorial memes regarding consumers is that they are participating in the “marketplace” for child porn which induces more abuse and production.  With the internet, the marketplace metaphor falls apart because supply and demand are decoupled.  Once a photo hits the internet, supply is effectively infinite and any relationship to the original seller is severed.  Financial gain might be achieved from the initial sale, but internet transfers provide no further feedback.  Transfers between consumers causes harm but does not stimulate further production.

I propose a tactic for LE that would have most consumers scrambling to delete CP, smash their flash drives and never again view CP.  LE has become pretty adept at tracking those who consume CP, either via peer-to-peer networks, commercial websites or chat groups.  LE knows who consumers are.  Otherwise they could never get a search warrant.

If the object of the exercise is to reduce harm to children, LE could send a notice to consumers similar to the following.

“Dear Mr. Smith, this is FBI agent _______.  We have gathered evidence that you are engaged in viewing child pornography.  Indeed, we have sufficient evidence to obtain a search warrant right now.  We may choose to do so and certainly will if we detect any further involvement on your part.  An arrest, much less a conviction, will ruin your life.  We are very good at finding forensic evidence, and even if pornography has been deleted from any media, we will find it.  We suggest you purge your electronic devices, even to the point of physically destroying all media; and don’t go back to any internet sites where you might find child pornography.  It is your choice, but you are on our hit list.”

I ask those readers with a CP conviction what YOU would have done after receiving such a notice.  Even if there were some tenuous market feedback to producers, demand would dry up.  From the LE perspective this has serious downsides.  It would actually reduce crime and crime statistics, which would contract budgets and offer fewer promotion points.  A secondary effect would be to shrink the size of sex offender registries which are also fertile ground for budget increases.

Actual crime and harm to children would plummet.  That may be the stated goal, but it is not the LE objective.

Veritas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-41596">A</a>.</p>
<p>Police simply have no incentive to actually stop crime.  Law enforcement (LE) and prosecutors get funding and promotions not for reducing crime, but for arrests and convictions.  Child pornography (CP) is a case in point.  Most who are involved in CP are not producers but consumers/viewers.  Producers are probably a lost cause for deterrence efforts.  They do it because they like it, they are selling porn or both.  If they chose, LE could seriously reduce the harm done to children by consumers.</p>
<p>One of the common LE and prosecutorial memes regarding consumers is that they are participating in the “marketplace” for child porn which induces more abuse and production.  With the internet, the marketplace metaphor falls apart because supply and demand are decoupled.  Once a photo hits the internet, supply is effectively infinite and any relationship to the original seller is severed.  Financial gain might be achieved from the initial sale, but internet transfers provide no further feedback.  Transfers between consumers causes harm but does not stimulate further production.</p>
<p>I propose a tactic for LE that would have most consumers scrambling to delete CP, smash their flash drives and never again view CP.  LE has become pretty adept at tracking those who consume CP, either via peer-to-peer networks, commercial websites or chat groups.  LE knows who consumers are.  Otherwise they could never get a search warrant.</p>
<p>If the object of the exercise is to reduce harm to children, LE could send a notice to consumers similar to the following.</p>
<p>“Dear Mr. Smith, this is FBI agent _______.  We have gathered evidence that you are engaged in viewing child pornography.  Indeed, we have sufficient evidence to obtain a search warrant right now.  We may choose to do so and certainly will if we detect any further involvement on your part.  An arrest, much less a conviction, will ruin your life.  We are very good at finding forensic evidence, and even if pornography has been deleted from any media, we will find it.  We suggest you purge your electronic devices, even to the point of physically destroying all media; and don’t go back to any internet sites where you might find child pornography.  It is your choice, but you are on our hit list.”</p>
<p>I ask those readers with a CP conviction what YOU would have done after receiving such a notice.  Even if there were some tenuous market feedback to producers, demand would dry up.  From the LE perspective this has serious downsides.  It would actually reduce crime and crime statistics, which would contract budgets and offer fewer promotion points.  A secondary effect would be to shrink the size of sex offender registries which are also fertile ground for budget increases.</p>
<p>Actual crime and harm to children would plummet.  That may be the stated goal, but it is not the LE objective.</p>
<p>Veritas.</p>
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		By: Saddles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saddles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2021 03:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These comments have true thought to them  and yes even michaels &quot;hingsight&quot;  or the one about the underground railroad has meaning.  Sure we can all look at situations differently. Sure I am white and I&#039;m just as proud as the black man or the red man but when justice goes a miss than its time to speak up for truth. See pride and proud are to opposites.

One of my chaperones since my parents are deceased is part Cherokee and we happen to meet in VA were I live since I am from W,VA and she is also. Did not government treat the American Indian bad, what about many blacks. The point is this registry is vain and unjust in any American state in many ways. Even this penal system needs to be revamped or do you think they would send a sex offender to war from prison if war broke out.

Now Florida is unique. Yes I loved the spanards and the spanish colony history their. Florida has a good heritage but it was not always guns and roses so to speak. This registry is not always guns and roses or a walk in the park. either one speak up, stand up, as we all go around in life once and we all that are involved in this registry can make a difference to help true American Justice for all. Hay I&#039;m not scared to write the President or the Governor and I even an debating on doing that over me getting my rights back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These comments have true thought to them  and yes even michaels &#8220;hingsight&#8221;  or the one about the underground railroad has meaning.  Sure we can all look at situations differently. Sure I am white and I&#8217;m just as proud as the black man or the red man but when justice goes a miss than its time to speak up for truth. See pride and proud are to opposites.</p>
<p>One of my chaperones since my parents are deceased is part Cherokee and we happen to meet in VA were I live since I am from W,VA and she is also. Did not government treat the American Indian bad, what about many blacks. The point is this registry is vain and unjust in any American state in many ways. Even this penal system needs to be revamped or do you think they would send a sex offender to war from prison if war broke out.</p>
<p>Now Florida is unique. Yes I loved the spanards and the spanish colony history their. Florida has a good heritage but it was not always guns and roses so to speak. This registry is not always guns and roses or a walk in the park. either one speak up, stand up, as we all go around in life once and we all that are involved in this registry can make a difference to help true American Justice for all. Hay I&#8217;m not scared to write the President or the Governor and I even an debating on doing that over me getting my rights back.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-2/#comment-41613</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2021 23:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-2/#comment-41611&quot;&gt;DavidM&lt;/a&gt;.

DavidM

Ouch, Batman is DC not Marvel 
I am not a huge Comics geek but if the wrong enthusiest saw that , they would have a stroke LOL]]></description>
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<p>DavidM</p>
<p>Ouch, Batman is DC not Marvel<br />
I am not a huge Comics geek but if the wrong enthusiest saw that , they would have a stroke LOL</p>
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		By: Detroit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Detroit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2021 23:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[CherokeeJack:
Batman (Adam West) died in 2017.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CherokeeJack:<br />
Batman (Adam West) died in 2017.</p>
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		By: DavidM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2021 21:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/civilian-sex-stings-aim-at-street-justice/comment-page-2/#comment-41610&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

CherokeeJack 
  Unfortunately there is more fictitious information coming out of the real world than  there is  out of Marvel novels.]]></description>
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<p>CherokeeJack<br />
  Unfortunately there is more fictitious information coming out of the real world than  there is  out of Marvel novels.</p>
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