Gov. John Hickenlooper on Monday vetoed legislation that would have barred members of the Colorado Sex Offender Management Board from being able to profit from multi-million-dollar state contracts related to their work.
House Bill 1427 would have prevented members of the board, which decides how the state’s sex offenders are managed, from having direct financial benefits from the standards and guidelines that it adopts. Hickenlooper, in a letter to legislators, explained that while he supported “proper handling of conflicts” by the board, he believed the legislation was “redundant and overbroad.”
What are the odds that the people on the board who make a profit from the “rules” are big donors to the governor???
I hope the legislators can override the veto.
Can’t deny the base
Maybe Governor Hickie-pooper is also (cough, cough) benefitting from this conflict of interest in the form of some major kickbacks himself! Why do we in America and the people that have the ability to stop this, have for years just sat back and let these corrupt politicians just run rampant and ruin people’s lives. All the while, allowing law enforcement agencies grow like wildfire and become like a small military in every town across the country? What is the real threat here that they have to arm themselves to the hilt like they do?? It’s because they know that if “we the people” ever woke up to the bullshit these politicians were doing, we would run them out of the country on a rail. And that’s honestly what we need to do instead of playing “patty-cake” with them by “taking them to court” and getting them to “pass bills” to “stop” the corruption. Yeah right. Do you honestly think that will change anything?? They’re laughing their asses off at us all the way to the bank and their luxurious mansions they dwell in. We are some stupid people in this country I tell ya what. But ya know, I’m to blame too. I lived my life in ignorance to all of this before I got arrested and didn’t know anything about what was REALLY going on in this country. But now I do and I feel powerless to do anything about it. But I want so bad to fight back and teach these assholes a lesson.
Is anyone surprised? These people won’t stop until we apply some actual force, yes physical force to make them stop. The corruption in US govt agencies never ends.
Not surprised in the least.
I still dont understand how a test that is inadmissible in a court room can be admissable for purposes of probation.
It isn’t really “admissible” for the purpose of violating probation. Failing may raise someone’s red flags, but legally they can do nothing to you, at least in Florida.
I take an annual polygraph…maintenance…and have been passing it for years. Even if Florida can’t hold failure against you, at the same time passing it does nothing for you. Not taking it will get you violated. Ever hear of “Catch 22”?
That is not true. The COURTS cannot violate you for a polygraph, but DOC and the police can certainly use that information to look more closely at what you are doing. That happened to one young dummy in my Phase 1 group. He was 19 or 20 and confessed to messing around with a 13 year old girl in his neighborhood after he was put on probation. So, the PO and the cops went out and found the girl. It apparently wasn’t all that hard because less than a month later, he was gone. That is an old trick that state agencies in Florida use to use to get around sealed or expunged criminal records rules for professional licensing. Don’t use the conviction, but go out and find the “original information” and use it. No, they weren’t using the old conviction against you, but they WERE using it as a “starting point” for their investigation.
Likewise, the THERAPIST can penalize you and you PO will definitely treat you differently. I “confessed” to taking my son to Six Flags in Dallas on a polygraph. The PO said the I had “constructive contact” with children. I was demoted from Phase 2 back to Phase 1. Even though I was only back in Phase 1 for a couple of months, I had to start all over again in Phase 2. That probably extended by time in therapy by at least 6 months and probably more like a year. My PO also refused to let me go see my kids in Texas for like 6 months even though it was in my sentencing order. I had to spend a couple of thousand dollars to have the judge tell him otherwise. And while the judge was at it, he eliminated my curfew and gave me blanket permission to travel anywhere in the state for work without notifying the PO as long. He also ordered that the DOC could not deny me permission to travel to like 5 other states on business. I don’t recall if he told the PO that he couldn’t make me abide by the 1000 foot rule at the hotels I was staying in if they didn’t qualify as temporary residences, but the PO no longer called the Dallas hotels to ask if there were “children present” after that.
I was in the 4 phases of group therapy program for slightly over 4 years. It then took me almost 18 months to complete the REQUIRED 12 monthly “aftercare” sessions because of being sick once and like 4 cancelled meetings. I may have been in Phase 1 for close to two of those 4 years because the polygraphed who did my initial polygraph and my first “maintenance” polygraph was some hard case who worked for the Feds. He was not looking to see if you were telling the “truth.” He was looking to catch you in ANY “lie.” Eventually, my therapist and PO sent me to another county, where the polygrapher was not only competent, but also knew how to determine a baseline for someone with severe anxiety issues. When she did the setup, she asked me things like my name, where I was that day and if I was sitting in a chair, Initially, she got spikes with those questions.
Several years ago my polygrapher, and with the concurrence of my group counselor(who has since realized he was wrong), implicated that as the result of a polygraph they believed I was trying to ‘groom’ a youth in my church. I adamantly denied it to the point that I told each of them…in writing… that I would put $1000 on the table and if they could come up with one name…just one…in six months who said I was trying to ‘groom’ him/her, the $1000 was theirs. Of course I asked them to put their $1000 on the table too and if they came up with no name in six months, their money was mine. As far as I was concerned it was a sure bet. Of course their response to me was to get ‘pissed off’…which I so enjoyed. Of course they would not go along with my challenge and as I knew would happen their accusations came to nothing and the subject was dropped. Eventually my counselor completed my obligations for counselling and gave me a completion letter…which I have framed on the wall. Of course…as I have learned to do over the years…I have a copy of my challenge letter to them. Living a clean life and putting some of these ‘crazies’ in their place is so rewarding.
Now something to be aware of is a case in Texas, https://tinyurl.com/LeonardVTexas where the court ruled polygraph results can be used by a therapist to make determinations to continue or discharge treatment.
I know this isn’t the case in Florida but we need to be vigilant for anything similar in the pipeline.
After my release, they gave me the 200+ question “test” to determine if I was a threat to the community. They (PO) told me that I had NO sexual deviant tendencies in my report; that I was severely depressed (yea–ya think).
The judge took me out of 2 “sex offender classes” and put me into private counseling, with the stipulation of me NOT talking about my alleged offenses as they were detrimental to my mental well being.
(even the judge knew I was set up)
I also was taken out of sex offender treatment and placed into private ( and much more costly) therapy. For me it’s been a blessing. The state sanctioned therapy is not very therapeutic, especially since it is 99% guilt driven, making you rehash your “crimes” weekly in front of the group. To me that seemed hardly conducive to healing.
What bothers me is that even though my therapist gave me the psycho-sexual exam, had me answer the hundred question sex survey and has stated on more then one occasion that I am no threat to the community, I still languish in this forced ultra expensive therapy.
It just seems to me that this will never end. That I will be forced to suffer forever. I want so much to have my life back.
Thankfully for me , I have an excellent support system. My family and friends are and always have been there for me. Even after my arrest and subsequent conviction, I never lost a friend. For that, I am always thankful.
Satan will use your past to try to destroy your future. Any ‘therapy’ that constantly harps on the past is in the long run doing more harm than good.
Yo do run into the “1w Step Trap” with the group therapy. I had been through several months of residential treatment before I ever arrived at the group. I had no trouble at all admitting what i had done. But there is no room to try to figure out or discuss Why you did what you did. Your permissible “reasoning” kid of like with AA, in that you did it because you are an alcoholic, addict, sex offender, etc so to speak. This is “aversion” therapy. By the standards of the program that I was in, I am a GREAT success. I had no violations and no trouble of ANY kind since my sanctions ended. I have had intimate contact with another human being TWICE in the 12 years since I was early terminated from probation. Same person both times, a old, slightly crazy friend who I would catch between husbands.I don’t even try that anymore. If my life is what “success” looks like, I must thank God every day that I was not a “failure.” At least I am still alive and walking around.
Read my previous post. After two “failed polygraphs” my therapist And my crazy PO finally sent me to someone else, where I passed all subsequent polygraph exams. But I was stuck in Phase 1 for an inordinate amount of time because of the regional polygraphs.
I’ve been scratching my head on that question for years, and still don’t understand it. (I even had a bald spot started from scratching so much.) Some of the things politicians do or don’t do makes no sense to sensible people.
Just out of curiosity I wonder if they have boards to manage ‘drive-by shooters’, ‘drug dealers’, armed home invaders’, carjackers’, bank robbers’, etc, or are sex offenders such a threat that there is a requirement for this board? I find it amazing how many legislators have drunk the ‘coolade of lies, false information, paranoia, hate’.
The do have a registry for “career offenders “ in Florid and you do see absconded posters up with the RsO ones at the Pinellas SPOT office. But this registry does not draw the public or political attention. Of the SO registry. Is it even available on line? It certainly isn’t “promoted” like the SO registry.
Yea—“career criminal”…. Ha-Ha-Ha !!!
I was arrested ONCE. I am listed as a Career Criminal
These laws and restrictions they are passing in Florida as far as I am concerned are ‘hate crimes’ since they are not based on facts but pure hate.
In Florida one sex offense…and it doesn’t even have to happen in Florida…and you are a ‘career offender’…beyond recovery. That policy contributes to ‘job security’…not the RSO’s.
The ONLY “true experts” in this field are sex-offenders themselves. Anyone else is just reading semi-facts, false graphs, and fake ASSumptions, making their own agenda known for their own profit.
Something like Ron & Lauren Book.