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	Comments on: Is de-listing sex offenders even possible? Lawsuit claims it is	</title>
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		By: Tired Of Being Mistreated		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8401</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tired Of Being Mistreated]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 13:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8400&quot;&gt;Bruce&lt;/a&gt;.

Well your right about Florida, A neighbor just moved to Texas about a month ago (a week before Christmas), And within a week of him moving, Florida already had his TEXAS address added to the FLORIDA Registery !!. And back in 2011, I went to Sturgis SOUTH DAKOTA for work(I used to be part owner of the World&#039;s largest BBQ Grill) during the Sturgis Biker Rally. So being the 2 weeks, I had to Register there, And I&#039;ll be Danged if Florida didn&#039;t have my S. Dakota address listed the NEXT DAY !!. But as soon as I left S. Dakota and Re-registered back in Florida, S. Dakota removed me and there was no evidence of me ever being there(according to the Internet) !!. Florida seems to LOVE to Scare people !! They make it seem like we&#039;re (all Registerants) are waiting in the Alley&#039;s to pounce on the first child that walks by us !! I know most other states like to boast fear about us, But Florida seems to Thrive on it !!!  They LIE about how Important The &quot;Registery&quot; is to EVERYONE including the Government so they(Florida) can continue to get all the GRANTS and Increased BUDGET. IT&#039;S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY !! That&#039;s all everyone (in Politics) cares about !!. Politicians have found a &quot;Cash Cow&quot; and they are milking it as much as they can !! Sure , Things are (Slowly) starting to change, But The Public has been &quot;BRAINWASHED&quot; about a &quot;Sex Offender&quot; and how &quot;Dangerous&quot; they are, That it really won&#039;t do any good if the &quot;Registery&quot; died tomorrow !!. It&#039;s gonna take YEARS for the &quot;Public&quot; to realize that we&#039;re just NORMAL PEOPLE that just MADE A MISTAKE or Was LIED to, And we&#039;re just trying to move on and live as normal of a life as is possible !!. GREED has RUINED THIS COUNTRY.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8400">Bruce</a>.</p>
<p>Well your right about Florida, A neighbor just moved to Texas about a month ago (a week before Christmas), And within a week of him moving, Florida already had his TEXAS address added to the FLORIDA Registery !!. And back in 2011, I went to Sturgis SOUTH DAKOTA for work(I used to be part owner of the World&#8217;s largest BBQ Grill) during the Sturgis Biker Rally. So being the 2 weeks, I had to Register there, And I&#8217;ll be Danged if Florida didn&#8217;t have my S. Dakota address listed the NEXT DAY !!. But as soon as I left S. Dakota and Re-registered back in Florida, S. Dakota removed me and there was no evidence of me ever being there(according to the Internet) !!. Florida seems to LOVE to Scare people !! They make it seem like we&#8217;re (all Registerants) are waiting in the Alley&#8217;s to pounce on the first child that walks by us !! I know most other states like to boast fear about us, But Florida seems to Thrive on it !!!  They LIE about how Important The &#8220;Registery&#8221; is to EVERYONE including the Government so they(Florida) can continue to get all the GRANTS and Increased BUDGET. IT&#8217;S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY !! That&#8217;s all everyone (in Politics) cares about !!. Politicians have found a &#8220;Cash Cow&#8221; and they are milking it as much as they can !! Sure , Things are (Slowly) starting to change, But The Public has been &#8220;BRAINWASHED&#8221; about a &#8220;Sex Offender&#8221; and how &#8220;Dangerous&#8221; they are, That it really won&#8217;t do any good if the &#8220;Registery&#8221; died tomorrow !!. It&#8217;s gonna take YEARS for the &#8220;Public&#8221; to realize that we&#8217;re just NORMAL PEOPLE that just MADE A MISTAKE or Was LIED to, And we&#8217;re just trying to move on and live as normal of a life as is possible !!. GREED has RUINED THIS COUNTRY.</p>
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		By: Bruce		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8400</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 02:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8371&quot;&gt;Tired Of Being Mistreated&lt;/a&gt;.

You can move as far away from Fla. as you want,. When they find out where you live and they will your new address will be on the Fla. registry no matter what state you move to. I left Fla over 20 years ago and my new address 1200 miles away is still on the Fla registry. I live in a state that has a tiered system, level 1-2 and 3,i am level 2,that means that people have to go to the police station and specifically ask with my full name and address about me.But all they have to do is google my name and all info on the Fla. registry pops up. This crap isn&#039;t ever going away, not in our life time. I give you folks and a lot of others credit though for your efforts. Remember the antiabortionists from back in a day, the extremes they went through? It did them and their cause no good. Think about it, this crap isn&#039;t ever going away.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8371">Tired Of Being Mistreated</a>.</p>
<p>You can move as far away from Fla. as you want,. When they find out where you live and they will your new address will be on the Fla. registry no matter what state you move to. I left Fla over 20 years ago and my new address 1200 miles away is still on the Fla registry. I live in a state that has a tiered system, level 1-2 and 3,i am level 2,that means that people have to go to the police station and specifically ask with my full name and address about me.But all they have to do is google my name and all info on the Fla. registry pops up. This crap isn&#8217;t ever going away, not in our life time. I give you folks and a lot of others credit though for your efforts. Remember the antiabortionists from back in a day, the extremes they went through? It did them and their cause no good. Think about it, this crap isn&#8217;t ever going away.</p>
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		By: TWMJ		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8399</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TWMJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 22:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8395&quot;&gt;JoeM&lt;/a&gt;.

I have been off probation since 2005. They did the automatic consideration for restoring my civil rights and was denied they said it would be considered again after 3 years and I have not heard from them since the first time. What are they afraid of Me voting them out of office???  Oh and my conviction was in 1996.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8395">JoeM</a>.</p>
<p>I have been off probation since 2005. They did the automatic consideration for restoring my civil rights and was denied they said it would be considered again after 3 years and I have not heard from them since the first time. What are they afraid of Me voting them out of office???  Oh and my conviction was in 1996.</p>
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		By: Florida Action Committee		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8398</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Florida Action Committee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 20:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8397&quot;&gt;Tired Of Being Mistreated&lt;/a&gt;.

OK. As a courtesy, if you still need it, we will gladly print a copy for you and deposit it in the mailbox.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8397">Tired Of Being Mistreated</a>.</p>
<p>OK. As a courtesy, if you still need it, we will gladly print a copy for you and deposit it in the mailbox.</p>
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		By: Tired Of Being Mistreated		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8397</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tired Of Being Mistreated]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 18:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8396&quot;&gt;Florida Action Committee&lt;/a&gt;.

12 years !! Call them !!  And I asked for a packet to be mailed because I don&#039;t have access to a printer(didn&#039;t then). They refused.]]></description>
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<p>12 years !! Call them !!  And I asked for a packet to be mailed because I don&#8217;t have access to a printer(didn&#8217;t then). They refused.</p>
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		By: Florida Action Committee		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8396</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Florida Action Committee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 18:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8395&quot;&gt;JoeM&lt;/a&gt;.

Correct and correct. Prior to Rick Scott it was completely different. Now they have to wait 7 years to APPLY.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8395">JoeM</a>.</p>
<p>Correct and correct. Prior to Rick Scott it was completely different. Now they have to wait 7 years to APPLY.</p>
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		By: JoeM		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8395</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 17:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8394&quot;&gt;Florida Action Committee&lt;/a&gt;.

Did most of those &quot;many&quot; RSO&#039;s receive restoration of civil rights during the Crist years? I ask because prior to that, their was a backlog of hundreds of thousands of people trying to get that partial restoration (no gun rights) and likely many more that never bothered to try.  After Scott took office, the old requirement that RSO&#039;s have to have hearing before the cabinet was reinstated IIRC.]]></description>
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<p>Did most of those &#8220;many&#8221; RSO&#8217;s receive restoration of civil rights during the Crist years? I ask because prior to that, their was a backlog of hundreds of thousands of people trying to get that partial restoration (no gun rights) and likely many more that never bothered to try.  After Scott took office, the old requirement that RSO&#8217;s have to have hearing before the cabinet was reinstated IIRC.</p>
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		By: Florida Action Committee		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8394</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Florida Action Committee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 17:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8391&quot;&gt;Tired Of Being Mistreated&lt;/a&gt;.

You should be clear when distinguishing &quot;restoration of civil rights&quot; and &quot;pardon&quot;.

In Florida, a convicted felon cannot vote, serve on a jury, or hold public office until civil rights have been restored. There are many, many RSOs who have had their civil rights restored or who received a withhold of adjudication and never lost these rights to begin with.

A Pardon is something else entirely and VERY few people, regardless of what their offense, receive pardons.

The rules of executive clemency can be found here: https://www.fcor.state.fl.us/docs/clemency/clemency_rules.pdf

I do not know why you indicate that they wouldn&#039;t even send you the paperwork, because the application is online and can be found here: &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.fcor.state.fl.us/docs/clemency/ClemencyApplication.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;https://www.fcor.state.fl.us/docs/clemency/ClemencyApplication.pdf&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8391">Tired Of Being Mistreated</a>.</p>
<p>You should be clear when distinguishing &#8220;restoration of civil rights&#8221; and &#8220;pardon&#8221;.</p>
<p>In Florida, a convicted felon cannot vote, serve on a jury, or hold public office until civil rights have been restored. There are many, many RSOs who have had their civil rights restored or who received a withhold of adjudication and never lost these rights to begin with.</p>
<p>A Pardon is something else entirely and VERY few people, regardless of what their offense, receive pardons.</p>
<p>The rules of executive clemency can be found here: <a href="https://www.fcor.state.fl.us/docs/clemency/clemency_rules.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.fcor.state.fl.us/docs/clemency/clemency_rules.pdf</a></p>
<p>I do not know why you indicate that they wouldn&#8217;t even send you the paperwork, because the application is online and can be found here: <a href="https://www.fcor.state.fl.us/docs/clemency/ClemencyApplication.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.fcor.state.fl.us/docs/clemency/ClemencyApplication.pdf</a></p>
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		By: JoeM		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-8393</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 17:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-8360&quot;&gt;ken usa army vet.&lt;/a&gt;.

Virgil McCranie, Panama City 2009. He was a &quot;Romeo and Juliet&quot; offender who had been on the registry for 16 years according to the news, but not covered by the post 2007 law. My recollection is that there was one other pardon where the guy was older and the victim was a teen.]]></description>
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<p>Virgil McCranie, Panama City 2009. He was a &#8220;Romeo and Juliet&#8221; offender who had been on the registry for 16 years according to the news, but not covered by the post 2007 law. My recollection is that there was one other pardon where the guy was older and the victim was a teen.</p>
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		By: JoeM		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8392</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 17:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/de-listing-sex-offenders-even-possible-lawsuit-claims/comment-page-2/#comment-8390&quot;&gt;Florida Action Committee&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes and that is one of the first things that the Scott cabinet killed when they took office. I don&#039;t know if Adam Putnam, the most reasonable cabinet member, signed onto that, but either he or Jeff Attwater had to for it to pass.]]></description>
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<p>Yes and that is one of the first things that the Scott cabinet killed when they took office. I don&#8217;t know if Adam Putnam, the most reasonable cabinet member, signed onto that, but either he or Jeff Attwater had to for it to pass.</p>
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