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	Comments on: The Dobbs Wire: Bittersweet	</title>
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		By: Karen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2017 11:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dobbs-wire-bittersweet/comment-page-1/#comment-8213&quot;&gt;Florida Action Committee&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes this is an important one - so many (too many) cases are decided by plea.  Mandatory sentences create an injustice system that forces people to give up their right to trial and also forces many people to plead guilty when in essence they are not.  It happens every day.  So this case will address whether a person that pleas out is still able to challenge the Constitutionality of the law?  Seems like a no-brainer to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dobbs-wire-bittersweet/comment-page-1/#comment-8213">Florida Action Committee</a>.</p>
<p>Yes this is an important one &#8211; so many (too many) cases are decided by plea.  Mandatory sentences create an injustice system that forces people to give up their right to trial and also forces many people to plead guilty when in essence they are not.  It happens every day.  So this case will address whether a person that pleas out is still able to challenge the Constitutionality of the law?  Seems like a no-brainer to me.</p>
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		By: JoeM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2017 18:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dobbs-wire-bittersweet/comment-page-1/#comment-8212&quot;&gt;Mike&lt;/a&gt;.

Better perhaps, but not easier because you would ha e to first get a court to change its mind because, as we have been told, being locked up for life in a loony bin after you get out of prison is not punishment]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dobbs-wire-bittersweet/comment-page-1/#comment-8212">Mike</a>.</p>
<p>Better perhaps, but not easier because you would ha e to first get a court to change its mind because, as we have been told, being locked up for life in a loony bin after you get out of prison is not punishment</p>
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		By: Florida Action Committee		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dobbs-wire-bittersweet/comment-page-1/#comment-8213</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Florida Action Committee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2017 16:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dobbs-wire-bittersweet/comment-page-1/#comment-8211&quot;&gt;C&lt;/a&gt;.

The issue in Class is: Whether a guilty plea inherently waives a defendant&#039;s right to challenge the constitutionality of his statute of conviction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dobbs-wire-bittersweet/comment-page-1/#comment-8211">C</a>.</p>
<p>The issue in Class is: Whether a guilty plea inherently waives a defendant&#8217;s right to challenge the constitutionality of his statute of conviction.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dobbs-wire-bittersweet/comment-page-1/#comment-8212</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2017 13:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dobbs-wire-bittersweet/comment-page-1/#comment-8209&quot;&gt;Karen&lt;/a&gt;.

The Karsjens case was not heard because of the way the case was presented.  The question was: &quot;Whether the district court properly determined that Minnesota&#039;s sex offender civil commitment statute violates substantive due process both facially and as applied.&quot;

The 8th Circuit said basically -&quot;you have no claim to freedom because you are not a &quot;free person&quot; do to the fact that you are under mental health care and have been deem a danger to others&quot;.

An 8th Amendment &quot;Cruel and Unusual&quot; question would have been better in Karsjens rather than a 5th or 14th Amendment &quot;Due Process&quot; Claim]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dobbs-wire-bittersweet/comment-page-1/#comment-8209">Karen</a>.</p>
<p>The Karsjens case was not heard because of the way the case was presented.  The question was: &#8220;Whether the district court properly determined that Minnesota&#8217;s sex offender civil commitment statute violates substantive due process both facially and as applied.&#8221;</p>
<p>The 8th Circuit said basically -&#8220;you have no claim to freedom because you are not a &#8220;free person&#8221; do to the fact that you are under mental health care and have been deem a danger to others&#8221;.</p>
<p>An 8th Amendment &#8220;Cruel and Unusual&#8221; question would have been better in Karsjens rather than a 5th or 14th Amendment &#8220;Due Process&#8221; Claim</p>
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		By: C		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2017 11:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Class vs United States was picked up at least, which may have a positive effect on someone]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Class vs United States was picked up at least, which may have a positive effect on someone</p>
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		By: Florida Action Committee		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dobbs-wire-bittersweet/comment-page-1/#comment-8210</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Florida Action Committee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2017 11:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dobbs-wire-bittersweet/comment-page-1/#comment-8209&quot;&gt;Karen&lt;/a&gt;.

There&#039;s plenty of money. It&#039;s a captive audience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dobbs-wire-bittersweet/comment-page-1/#comment-8209">Karen</a>.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s plenty of money. It&#8217;s a captive audience.</p>
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		By: Karen		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dobbs-wire-bittersweet/comment-page-1/#comment-8209</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2017 11:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So right - it is bittersweet.  I just do not understand why the highest court in the land would refuse to hear a case that basically holds people in bondage after their sentence is served.  It is not based on any crime but instead on a possible future which is based on false statistics and fallacies.  Is there money to be had for civil commitment?  Could that be the reason?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So right &#8211; it is bittersweet.  I just do not understand why the highest court in the land would refuse to hear a case that basically holds people in bondage after their sentence is served.  It is not based on any crime but instead on a possible future which is based on false statistics and fallacies.  Is there money to be had for civil commitment?  Could that be the reason?</p>
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