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		By: KK		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2023 15:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51441&quot;&gt;JD&lt;/a&gt;.

Please contact Ron Kleiner.  He is amazing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51441">JD</a>.</p>
<p>Please contact Ron Kleiner.  He is amazing.</p>
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		By: KK		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2023 15:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51439&quot;&gt;Finally Retired&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes contact Ron Kleiner.  Amazing attorney for this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51439">Finally Retired</a>.</p>
<p>Yes contact Ron Kleiner.  Amazing attorney for this.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51442</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2022 13:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51441&quot;&gt;JD&lt;/a&gt;.

JD

The fact this crap was added retroactively (Or at all) is just crazy. I mean if the law was in effect when someone committed a crime, you at least knew what you faced. But agreeing to a sentence in court then later having new sanctions you did not agree to added on or have any say about it just wrong and beyond unethical.

But hey, we have proven time and time again that the law, seems to be &quot;Above&quot; the law or acting outside of its own perimeters. It is like when I was a boy and would ask my Dad &quot;How come I can&#039;t go over to Stevie&#039;s house to play&quot; and Dad would not give a reason other than &quot;Because I said so, that is why!&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51441">JD</a>.</p>
<p>JD</p>
<p>The fact this crap was added retroactively (Or at all) is just crazy. I mean if the law was in effect when someone committed a crime, you at least knew what you faced. But agreeing to a sentence in court then later having new sanctions you did not agree to added on or have any say about it just wrong and beyond unethical.</p>
<p>But hey, we have proven time and time again that the law, seems to be &#8220;Above&#8221; the law or acting outside of its own perimeters. It is like when I was a boy and would ask my Dad &#8220;How come I can&#8217;t go over to Stevie&#8217;s house to play&#8221; and Dad would not give a reason other than &#8220;Because I said so, that is why!&#8221;.</p>
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		By: JD		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51441</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2022 04:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51437&quot;&gt;RM&lt;/a&gt;.

When I was sentenced back in 98 my attorney and the prosecutor both told me the judge was forced to add the predator designation but not to worry because back then after 10 years of release I could petition to have it removed. It&#039;s been 16 years since I finished everything and since then the law has changed so now I can&#039;t remove it ever. Once I hit the 20 year mark I will look into it again. Maybe by then there will be some sort of relief available. Not counting on it tho.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51437">RM</a>.</p>
<p>When I was sentenced back in 98 my attorney and the prosecutor both told me the judge was forced to add the predator designation but not to worry because back then after 10 years of release I could petition to have it removed. It&#8217;s been 16 years since I finished everything and since then the law has changed so now I can&#8217;t remove it ever. Once I hit the 20 year mark I will look into it again. Maybe by then there will be some sort of relief available. Not counting on it tho.</p>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51440</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 22:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51439&quot;&gt;Finally Retired&lt;/a&gt;.

Ron Kleiner, on FAC’s attorney referral webpage, has represented a number of FL removals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51439">Finally Retired</a>.</p>
<p>Ron Kleiner, on FAC’s attorney referral webpage, has represented a number of FL removals.</p>
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		By: Finally Retired		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Finally Retired]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 20:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51437&quot;&gt;RM&lt;/a&gt;.

does anyone know what the chances are, generally speaking, of actually being granted removal from the registry after petitioning?   Are Florida judges granting these types petitions in significant numbers?  I realize there aren’t many of these cases brought before judges given how long it takes even to petition..

No mention of ‘tiers’ in the Florida law as you said.  But I get your point -Florida law implicitly recognizes these three classes of sex offenders and treats them differently.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51437">RM</a>.</p>
<p>does anyone know what the chances are, generally speaking, of actually being granted removal from the registry after petitioning?   Are Florida judges granting these types petitions in significant numbers?  I realize there aren’t many of these cases brought before judges given how long it takes even to petition..</p>
<p>No mention of ‘tiers’ in the Florida law as you said.  But I get your point -Florida law implicitly recognizes these three classes of sex offenders and treats them differently.</p>
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		By: Eugene V. Debs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eugene V. Debs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 19:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51437&quot;&gt;RM&lt;/a&gt;.

I just wished at the very least Florida would go by the federal sorna guidelines. That way there is a realistic path off instead of punished for life.  South Carolina lifetime was ruled unconstitutional a few years back, hopefully common sense is spreading south.]]></description>
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<p>I just wished at the very least Florida would go by the federal sorna guidelines. That way there is a realistic path off instead of punished for life.  South Carolina lifetime was ruled unconstitutional a few years back, hopefully common sense is spreading south.</p>
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		By: RM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 16:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51433&quot;&gt;Jeremiah V&lt;/a&gt;.

Florida does indeed have tiers. It just doesn&#039;t call them that, and they aren&#039;t especially helpful to our cause. Florida law distinguishes three categories of offenders:


Sexual predators who must register for life
Sexual offenders who must register 4 times per year for life
Sexual offenders who must register 2 times per year for life, but may petition to be relieved of the requirement to register after 20/25 years from the end of release from all sanctions (including probation and fines) provided the offender has not been arrested for a misdemeanor or felony since release.


If the law referred to these three classes of individuals as Tier I, Tier II, and Tier III offenders, respectively, there would be absolutely no practical effect other than perhaps relieving sexual predators of the stigma-plus &quot;predator&quot; designation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51433">Jeremiah V</a>.</p>
<p>Florida does indeed have tiers. It just doesn&#8217;t call them that, and they aren&#8217;t especially helpful to our cause. Florida law distinguishes three categories of offenders:</p>
<p>Sexual predators who must register for life<br />
Sexual offenders who must register 4 times per year for life<br />
Sexual offenders who must register 2 times per year for life, but may petition to be relieved of the requirement to register after 20/25 years from the end of release from all sanctions (including probation and fines) provided the offender has not been arrested for a misdemeanor or felony since release.</p>
<p>If the law referred to these three classes of individuals as Tier I, Tier II, and Tier III offenders, respectively, there would be absolutely no practical effect other than perhaps relieving sexual predators of the stigma-plus &#8220;predator&#8221; designation.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 00:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51425&quot;&gt;JEV&lt;/a&gt;.

This is even weirder.
We cannot get off the registry it seems but we can run for the office of President?

&quot;Previous Supreme Court rulings hold that a state cannot prohibit indicted or convicted felons from running for federal office, and Congress cannot add qualifications to the office of president, said Derek Muller, a law professor at the University of Iowa.&quot;

Convicted felons have run for president and lost. Lyndon LaRouche was convicted in 1988 of tax and mail fraud conspiracy and ran for president multiple times between 1976 and 2004. Eugene Debs, convicted of violating the Espionage Act of 1917 for an anti-war speech, was in a federal prison when he ran for president as a socialist in 1920. Debs’ supporters handed out campaign buttons for &quot;Prisoner 9653.&quot;

So, if you all vote for me,CherokeeJack and I win, I will write a presidential Decree stating all registries are null and void. I just need to find about 35 million votes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/doj-releases-2022-sorna-case-law-summary/comment-page-1/#comment-51425">JEV</a>.</p>
<p>This is even weirder.<br />
We cannot get off the registry it seems but we can run for the office of President?</p>
<p>&#8220;Previous Supreme Court rulings hold that a state cannot prohibit indicted or convicted felons from running for federal office, and Congress cannot add qualifications to the office of president, said Derek Muller, a law professor at the University of Iowa.&#8221;</p>
<p>Convicted felons have run for president and lost. Lyndon LaRouche was convicted in 1988 of tax and mail fraud conspiracy and ran for president multiple times between 1976 and 2004. Eugene Debs, convicted of violating the Espionage Act of 1917 for an anti-war speech, was in a federal prison when he ran for president as a socialist in 1920. Debs’ supporters handed out campaign buttons for &#8220;Prisoner 9653.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, if you all vote for me,CherokeeJack and I win, I will write a presidential Decree stating all registries are null and void. I just need to find about 35 million votes.</p>
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		By: Another Robert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 22:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That is certainly a stern and depressing document. I don&#039;t seen any glimmers of hope there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is certainly a stern and depressing document. I don&#8217;t seen any glimmers of hope there.</p>
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