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		By: DavidM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 15:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dr-phil-to-feature-police-icac-proactive-stings/comment-page-6/#comment-37454&quot;&gt;Vicki Henry&lt;/a&gt;.

Vicki Henry
 Excellent post. Very clear explanation.]]></description>
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<p>Vicki Henry<br />
 Excellent post. Very clear explanation.</p>
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		By: Vicki Henry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vicki Henry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Entrapment: Instigation Not Investigation
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		By: Aracely		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aracely]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2020 22:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dr-phil-to-feature-police-icac-proactive-stings/comment-page-5/#comment-37452&quot;&gt;Detroit&lt;/a&gt;.

I would very gladly do another show on this. I know so much more now about what to say. 
I think we need to get a lot of people to start writing in to the show about wanting to see more of this get covered. Tell them about the important issues they missed, how many people are affected by this, how this is hurting our society, etc. 
I think if we get enough people to keep writing in to them about that, they will do another show about it.
I bugged them for like 2 and a half years, before they finally agreed to bring me on. If we’re persistent, we can make it happen. 
We also need to take advantage and post comments and reply to the comments of others on the videos that the show puts up on YouTube and Facebook (about this show in particular). Many people read those comments. It’s a good opportunity to reach a wide audience and get some information out to them. I kept posting the link to our website in the comments. https://cage.fyi/
I’m doing everything I can think of to get this education out to people.

Unfortunately, Dr. Phil did not fully understand this matter at time the show was taped. There were things cut out (some of his opinions) based on feedback we provided to them after the taping of the show. I really thought I would get a chance to talk again later, to clarify things, but I was never given the opportunity to do that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dr-phil-to-feature-police-icac-proactive-stings/comment-page-5/#comment-37452">Detroit</a>.</p>
<p>I would very gladly do another show on this. I know so much more now about what to say.<br />
I think we need to get a lot of people to start writing in to the show about wanting to see more of this get covered. Tell them about the important issues they missed, how many people are affected by this, how this is hurting our society, etc.<br />
I think if we get enough people to keep writing in to them about that, they will do another show about it.<br />
I bugged them for like 2 and a half years, before they finally agreed to bring me on. If we’re persistent, we can make it happen.<br />
We also need to take advantage and post comments and reply to the comments of others on the videos that the show puts up on YouTube and Facebook (about this show in particular). Many people read those comments. It’s a good opportunity to reach a wide audience and get some information out to them. I kept posting the link to our website in the comments. <a href="https://cage.fyi/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://cage.fyi/</a><br />
I’m doing everything I can think of to get this education out to people.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Dr. Phil did not fully understand this matter at time the show was taped. There were things cut out (some of his opinions) based on feedback we provided to them after the taping of the show. I really thought I would get a chance to talk again later, to clarify things, but I was never given the opportunity to do that.</p>
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		By: Detroit		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dr-phil-to-feature-police-icac-proactive-stings/comment-page-5/#comment-37452</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Detroit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2020 16:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aracely:
Each person in this cause brings their individual life experiences to the table.  You have the unique experience of actually appearing on a national television show.  We need to learn so we can build on this experience.
It would be nice if you can get back on the show for Round #2 but the next time, we can all help you be more prepared so you can illuminate the public on how the registry is actually affecting peoples lives, wasting taxpayer money and diverting police resources away from persons actually involved in violent crimes.
We also need to get our experts on the show.  Here in Michigan, we have Professor Larry Dubin at the University of Detroit.  It would be nice if we could get him on the show.  People don&#039;t realize that adults and teens with developmental disabilities are overly represented in these stings and the number of actual predators caught up in these stings is quite small.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aracely:<br />
Each person in this cause brings their individual life experiences to the table.  You have the unique experience of actually appearing on a national television show.  We need to learn so we can build on this experience.<br />
It would be nice if you can get back on the show for Round #2 but the next time, we can all help you be more prepared so you can illuminate the public on how the registry is actually affecting peoples lives, wasting taxpayer money and diverting police resources away from persons actually involved in violent crimes.<br />
We also need to get our experts on the show.  Here in Michigan, we have Professor Larry Dubin at the University of Detroit.  It would be nice if we could get him on the show.  People don&#8217;t realize that adults and teens with developmental disabilities are overly represented in these stings and the number of actual predators caught up in these stings is quite small.</p>
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		By: Aracely		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aracely]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2020 23:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dr-phil-to-feature-police-icac-proactive-stings/comment-page-5/#comment-37450&quot;&gt;Detroit&lt;/a&gt;.

I wish that too. There are so many things now that I wish I had said or been more clear about. I really didn’t think Dr. Phil himself would miss such a huge point about the reality of these sex sting operations. 
I have learned a lot from doing the show. I really had not realized before how difficult it is for most people to understand or figure out that police had advertised themselves seeking, and offering casual sexual to adults who were also seeking that. Many people aren’t aware that’s even a thing. Some adults seek casual encounters online. There are no real minors on these adult sites seeking and offering casual sex to these adults. That’s the main fact nobody is talking about. That’s why anybody who comes across this is very confused and can’t even wrap their heads around it. 
The police use psychological manipulation to get their targets to agree to have sex with them and tell them they will. Because it’s difficult to come across anybody on these sites who is not a bot or a scammer, these targets are particularly vulnerable to anybody who engages them in conversation. The problem is that the police make it clear that they are only interested in talking if they are going to talk about having sex. They will only agree to meet if the target agrees to have sex with them and will clearly state that they will have sex with them. Police refuse to meet if it is not clear they are going to get sex from this meeting. Naturally, the targets are curious and interested in meeting who they’ve been talking to. So, they give in and tell police they will do what they (police) want them to do. They do this in exchange to get to meet the person they are talking to, to find out more about what this is all about. This is the only way they can make this meeting happen. 
All police have proven is that they can manipulate people on adult sites to say they will do what police want them to do. They have not proven that anybody would have really had sex with a child. They make their targets say they will do this, making it clear they will only meet if its going to be about sex. 
This is clearly entrapment. 
“Entrapment occurs only when the criminal conduct was ‘the product of the creative activity’ of law enforcement officials.” – Sherman v. United States, 356 U.S. 36]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dr-phil-to-feature-police-icac-proactive-stings/comment-page-5/#comment-37450">Detroit</a>.</p>
<p>I wish that too. There are so many things now that I wish I had said or been more clear about. I really didn’t think Dr. Phil himself would miss such a huge point about the reality of these sex sting operations.<br />
I have learned a lot from doing the show. I really had not realized before how difficult it is for most people to understand or figure out that police had advertised themselves seeking, and offering casual sexual to adults who were also seeking that. Many people aren’t aware that’s even a thing. Some adults seek casual encounters online. There are no real minors on these adult sites seeking and offering casual sex to these adults. That’s the main fact nobody is talking about. That’s why anybody who comes across this is very confused and can’t even wrap their heads around it.<br />
The police use psychological manipulation to get their targets to agree to have sex with them and tell them they will. Because it’s difficult to come across anybody on these sites who is not a bot or a scammer, these targets are particularly vulnerable to anybody who engages them in conversation. The problem is that the police make it clear that they are only interested in talking if they are going to talk about having sex. They will only agree to meet if the target agrees to have sex with them and will clearly state that they will have sex with them. Police refuse to meet if it is not clear they are going to get sex from this meeting. Naturally, the targets are curious and interested in meeting who they’ve been talking to. So, they give in and tell police they will do what they (police) want them to do. They do this in exchange to get to meet the person they are talking to, to find out more about what this is all about. This is the only way they can make this meeting happen.<br />
All police have proven is that they can manipulate people on adult sites to say they will do what police want them to do. They have not proven that anybody would have really had sex with a child. They make their targets say they will do this, making it clear they will only meet if its going to be about sex.<br />
This is clearly entrapment.<br />
“Entrapment occurs only when the criminal conduct was ‘the product of the creative activity’ of law enforcement officials.” – Sherman v. United States, 356 U.S. 36</p>
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		By: Detroit		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dr-phil-to-feature-police-icac-proactive-stings/comment-page-5/#comment-37450</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Detroit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2020 17:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aracely:
I wish I had known that you were going on the show ahead of time.  I would have sent you judge Noonan&#039;s dissent.  They could have reached out to him and got it straight from a federal judge&#039;s mouth.  Let&#039;s see what Dr. Phil has to say then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aracely:<br />
I wish I had known that you were going on the show ahead of time.  I would have sent you judge Noonan&#8217;s dissent.  They could have reached out to him and got it straight from a federal judge&#8217;s mouth.  Let&#8217;s see what Dr. Phil has to say then.</p>
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		By: Entrapped		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dr-phil-to-feature-police-icac-proactive-stings/comment-page-5/#comment-37449</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Entrapped]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2020 21:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dr-phil-to-feature-police-icac-proactive-stings/comment-page-5/#comment-37448&quot;&gt;Aracely&lt;/a&gt;.

Police may be able to use adult websites but are they allowed to solicit, lure, or entice or attempt to. My son was caught in operation blue shepherd 2011 which was entrapment as a matter of law. April McCray&#039;s post in Craigslist casual encounters read:   Sisters looking for a hot night -w4m - 19  (pcola/destin/pc)  Detective McCray said,  2 sisters seeking a man that handle both of us. We are ready for a hot night are you? In the emails sent back and forth were not clear of who or ages other than the posted ages . This was very confusing, in the beginning McCray said, &quot;My lil sis is visiting me for the summer. She is 14, you ok with that?&quot; My son responds &quot;And yes, I&#039;m ok with that as long as you&#039;re of age.&quot; McCray responds, &quot;I am 19, but it is about the both of us tonight. Can you handle it?&quot; My son says I&#039;d have to say maybe tomorrow. When are you free tomorrow &#038; the next day?&quot; McCray responds, &quot;Oh well you sux!!! Why tomorrow&quot; Lisa Broxson Cutler who was a chatter for the Pensacola police department for the Operation Blue Shepherd was asked on the stand under oath (our lawyer took this deposition from her before trial but she was not put on the stand at my son’s trial.) My son’s lawyer asked Cutler, “Did they discuss with you entrapment issues?” Cutler answered, “Yes, that was discussed.” My son’s lawyer asked, “And what do you recall about those discussions?” Cutler answered, “You know, they just warned to be careful and to make sure that you – that it is really open in your discussion how old you are or how old the child is that they will be coming to see. And if they don’t want to come, don’t encourage them to come.” My son’s case was clear ENTRAPMENT AS A MATTER OF LAW but the judge just turned his head. As I said before, it is not just the police who are doing these stings illegally it is the courts also who are allowing them to continue. Corruption all the way to the top.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dr-phil-to-feature-police-icac-proactive-stings/comment-page-5/#comment-37448">Aracely</a>.</p>
<p>Police may be able to use adult websites but are they allowed to solicit, lure, or entice or attempt to. My son was caught in operation blue shepherd 2011 which was entrapment as a matter of law. April McCray&#8217;s post in Craigslist casual encounters read:   Sisters looking for a hot night -w4m &#8211; 19  (pcola/destin/pc)  Detective McCray said,  2 sisters seeking a man that handle both of us. We are ready for a hot night are you? In the emails sent back and forth were not clear of who or ages other than the posted ages . This was very confusing, in the beginning McCray said, &#8220;My lil sis is visiting me for the summer. She is 14, you ok with that?&#8221; My son responds &#8220;And yes, I&#8217;m ok with that as long as you&#8217;re of age.&#8221; McCray responds, &#8220;I am 19, but it is about the both of us tonight. Can you handle it?&#8221; My son says I&#8217;d have to say maybe tomorrow. When are you free tomorrow &amp; the next day?&#8221; McCray responds, &#8220;Oh well you sux!!! Why tomorrow&#8221; Lisa Broxson Cutler who was a chatter for the Pensacola police department for the Operation Blue Shepherd was asked on the stand under oath (our lawyer took this deposition from her before trial but she was not put on the stand at my son’s trial.) My son’s lawyer asked Cutler, “Did they discuss with you entrapment issues?” Cutler answered, “Yes, that was discussed.” My son’s lawyer asked, “And what do you recall about those discussions?” Cutler answered, “You know, they just warned to be careful and to make sure that you – that it is really open in your discussion how old you are or how old the child is that they will be coming to see. And if they don’t want to come, don’t encourage them to come.” My son’s case was clear ENTRAPMENT AS A MATTER OF LAW but the judge just turned his head. As I said before, it is not just the police who are doing these stings illegally it is the courts also who are allowing them to continue. Corruption all the way to the top.</p>
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		By: Aracely		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aracely]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2020 14:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dr-phil-to-feature-police-icac-proactive-stings/comment-page-5/#comment-37446&quot;&gt;TheTruthHurts&lt;/a&gt;.

TheTruthHurts:
If you are talking about the ICAC standards version that states that police are not allowed to use adult sites for these sex stings, that one is not real. Is it that one you are talking about or something else? 
Police are actually allowed to pose as someone seeking casual sex from other adults who are also seeking that, then pretend to be a minor who is seeking casual sex with adults and telling these adults that they are a minor doing this. It’s not something real minors do, but police are still allowed to do this, to supposedly look for “child predators”. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f937-1f3fb-200d-2640-fe0f.png" alt="🤷🏻‍♀️" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dr-phil-to-feature-police-icac-proactive-stings/comment-page-5/#comment-37446">TheTruthHurts</a>.</p>
<p>TheTruthHurts:<br />
If you are talking about the ICAC standards version that states that police are not allowed to use adult sites for these sex stings, that one is not real. Is it that one you are talking about or something else?<br />
Police are actually allowed to pose as someone seeking casual sex from other adults who are also seeking that, then pretend to be a minor who is seeking casual sex with adults and telling these adults that they are a minor doing this. It’s not something real minors do, but police are still allowed to do this, to supposedly look for “child predators”. 🤷🏻‍♀️</p>
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		By: Florida Action Committee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Florida Action Committee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2020 11:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/dr-phil-to-feature-police-icac-proactive-stings/comment-page-5/#comment-37446&quot;&gt;TheTruthHurts&lt;/a&gt;.

Please share these documents that you refer to.]]></description>
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<p>Please share these documents that you refer to.</p>
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		By: TheTruthHurts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TheTruthHurts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2020 00:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just to Set the Record Straight, there Exists, internal documents with National &#039;Agency&#039; and &#039;Bureau&#039; that details specifically, that these Schemes (ICAC) are Prohibited by all Law Enforcement Establishments and that these &#039;Sets of Protocols&#039; MUST be immediately adopted....Document dated 2011.

Trust Me!, many are running for &#039;cover; right now....I am sure that there is a Member here that will chime-in with the aforementioned specificities!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to Set the Record Straight, there Exists, internal documents with National &#8216;Agency&#8217; and &#8216;Bureau&#8217; that details specifically, that these Schemes (ICAC) are Prohibited by all Law Enforcement Establishments and that these &#8216;Sets of Protocols&#8217; MUST be immediately adopted&#8230;.Document dated 2011.</p>
<p>Trust Me!, many are running for &#8216;cover; right now&#8230;.I am sure that there is a Member here that will chime-in with the aforementioned specificities!</p>
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