I see it differently JoeM. There already are organizations involved with registered citizens (prefer we use that to the sex offender label).
To me the only way anyone will give us a chance is if their fears are lessened by seeing examples of persons who make a mistake, repent, and better themselves.

Also disagree that there as no things that are good for our cause. To me if all we do is remain cynic then we will not feel there is reason to fight. I choose to see the trends that are leaning our favor, and continue to fight.

Correct JoeM. I never said he was accused of raping 60 women. I wrote that women accused him of abusing them. To me that is a high number and why I believe in this case, where there is smoke, there is fire.

Fully agree with your “off with his head” observation. That is where our challenge lies..changing the perception of the public and thus their opinion.

Cherokeejack – my point is there is unfairness applied.

I hope that comes to being DavidM

I really got a good laugh out of you saying that maybe one day Cosby will “repent and work on behalf of organizations that are trying to prevent abuse.” In my experience, no organization is ever going to involve itself with a sex offender, even one that got away with it no matter how contrite they claim to be. Sure, you can see that this man is not good for “our cars” but arguably nothing is good for our cause because even the stuff that you might consider “good“ is ignored. I think that one of the problems that we have is that sex offenders are much less likely to have the resources to go after these laws in court and folks like the ACLU seem to have other priorities. The legal consequences would have to get pretty painful for the states to even comply with existing court orders like in Michigan . That should be clear to everyone. And that’s assuming we get a favorable decision. Look at what is happened in Florida with the ex post facto stuff and all of that. It’s like logic took a holiday in the courts engage in all kinds of legally fictitious gymnastics to uphold of these laws no matter how draconian they get. The best we can hope were these days is something like what happened in Georgia 10 years back. Their life got so crazy that the federal courts in the state Supreme Court just Cut the state off at the knees and told him to start over. So we get this convoluted set of laws that say that anyone convicted after that decision can effectively be broken at the wheel, but if you try it on older guys it’s ex post facto. What was really strange about that is that it appears that the state of Georgia actually may have removed the Internet identifier requirement From the law when it was rewritten perhaps because they know that that was going to be a loser. I think the problem that a lot of people have is that the states you could relocate to typically are very expensive liberal states. So you can’t afford it. That’s what happened to Vermont as the housing market exploded. Three or four years ago, I could’ve moved to the less desirable parts of Vermont in the southern part of the state and it would’ve been relatively affordable. Not so with the northern part around Burlington. But now pretty much the entire state except someplace in the mountains on a dirt road I have kind of got priced out of my price range. And that’s the same case with places like Oregon in Colorado and Massachusetts. Same thing with New York state and that was before those “advocates” sued to be able to set up their own little local police website registry for level one offenders. Same thing happened in Seattle.

For purposes of this discussion, Bill Cosby was not, in fact, “accused” of raping 60 women. He was accused of raping one. That’s why he got a 3 to 10 year sentence and the trail and not 165 years. Don’t laugh. Go see what sentence Bernie Madoff was given. We know that very few if any people actually believe that whole thing about “better we let 100 guilty men go free then send one innocent man to prison.“ We’re just seeing some slightly more Extreme examples of that hypocrisy. Today the truth is it’s more like “an individuals civil rights should be protected at all cost… Unless it’s someone that we really don’t like. Then off with his head.“ As registered sex offender’s, we are obviously quite familiar with that idea.

One possibility that the people whining about this case may have failed to consider is that perhaps the prosecution didn’t have sufficient evidence in their opinion in 2005. Noticed that when he was actually tried they had to troop all of these other victims in front of the court. That’s pretty dodgy and it would appear that the prosecution and the trial court had to do a little work around to avoid the old “prior bad acts“ rule. Had to say oh we’re not using theseOther incidents to prove that he did it this time because he’s done in his whole life. Somehow since I’ve been a lawyer, the government has apparently expanded this quote shows a pattern” thing. Sounds like prior bad acts to me. Fortunately, at least in the opinion of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, they didn’t have to address those things because the case was already moot because the prosecutor welched on the deal and the court allow them to do it.. My recollection is that the charge/victim in the 2018 trial was the only one where the statute of limitation hadn’t run, and just barely. Of course, I’ve made a comment or two on Twitter and such saying that if you’re looking for a black guy to get a win against the criminal justice system, it appears to be more likely that you’re going to get a bill Cosby or an OJ Simpson instead of a Rosa parks because Bill and OJ can actually afford real lawyers.But I do remember some folks cheering about OJ back in the day.

G

He will get the same support from some as did Michael Jackson. I mean I loved his music, his moves, his videos. There was no one ever like him. He paid off people and got out of charge after charge. Did he do it? Well I was not there so I only have an opinion, but you know what they say about those.

He is dead now and I never bad mouth the dead. But if they had sent him to prison, I coudn’t see him making it very long emotionally. (Doubt anyone would have hurt him in prison, he was an idol to most)

Look at OJ. He got away with so much and only did 9 years before being released. Again, not making judgements, just showing what money and power can do. None of which the majority of us have. If I had the money to hire a high profile lawyer, my confession would have been thrown out faster than Speedy Gonzales. I said “I want a lawyer” 3 times, and all 3 times I was told if I want to leave without a confession, “We are going to the news with your story”.

David

That happened to me. The cop said if I would just tell the truth, he would speak on my behalf to the judge. He never even showed up to the court hearing. He kept using excuses for why he could be present. The judge told my lawyer something to the effect of “It doesn’t matter, I do not care what he says on your behalf, it won’t change the verdict or sentence I give you”.