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	Comments on: Excellent News: Michigan&#039;s Sex Offender Act Unconstitutional	</title>
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		By: Gerald		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2019 15:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4354&quot;&gt;Curtis R. Willner, Attorney at Law&lt;/a&gt;.

Highlights the problem right now in Michigan. Takes representation by a lawyer to get the state to obey the federal decision on a case by case basis. ACLU is still working on forcing the state&#039;s hand, but it seems to be a long process. Their advice is to keep obeying the old laws until the situation has been resolved, or risk being arrested and having to fight it out in court, hopefully with a good attorney.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4354">Curtis R. Willner, Attorney at Law</a>.</p>
<p>Highlights the problem right now in Michigan. Takes representation by a lawyer to get the state to obey the federal decision on a case by case basis. ACLU is still working on forcing the state&#8217;s hand, but it seems to be a long process. Their advice is to keep obeying the old laws until the situation has been resolved, or risk being arrested and having to fight it out in court, hopefully with a good attorney.</p>
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		By: Curtis R. Willner, Attorney at Law		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4354</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curtis R. Willner, Attorney at Law]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2019 22:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4349&quot;&gt;J&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m an Attorney who has represented Michigan SORA clients -- you should consult with a qualified attorney.  Without giving you legal advice, my very preliminary opinion is that if the acts you committed of which you were convicted and sentenced as a sex offender predated the 2006 and 2011 SORA amendments (those are the amendments the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals found constitute punishment) then you may have a viable Ex Post Facto challenge.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4349">J</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an Attorney who has represented Michigan SORA clients &#8212; you should consult with a qualified attorney.  Without giving you legal advice, my very preliminary opinion is that if the acts you committed of which you were convicted and sentenced as a sex offender predated the 2006 and 2011 SORA amendments (those are the amendments the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals found constitute punishment) then you may have a viable Ex Post Facto challenge.</p>
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		By: Gerald Trudell		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4353</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald Trudell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2018 20:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4350&quot;&gt;Gerald Trudell&lt;/a&gt;.

I have located one reference supporting my earlier post regarding changes in Michigan&#039;s sex offender registry law, and how the requirements now vary depending upon the conviction date.
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/corrections/DOM_2018-23_SORA_609801_7.pdf
I hope that copied link works. It was the very last item on the Michigan Department of Corrections &quot;Policy Directives&quot; page.
http://www.michigan.gov/corrections/0,4551,7-119-1441_44369---,00.html
Of course, they haven&#039;t corrected the actual Policy Directive it references yet. Here is what it says:
On August 25, 2016, the United States Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals in Doe, et al. v Snyder, et al.,
case nos. 15-1536/2346/2486 ruled that the retroactive application of the 2006 and 2011 amendments
to the Michigan Sex Offenders Registration Act (SORA) were unconstitutional. Both parties
appealed to the United States Supreme Court. The Supreme Court recently denied leave to appeal,
which means that the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals’ decision on retroactivity remains in effect.
PD 01.05.115 “Sex Offenders Registration Act” and its implementing procedure are therefore revised
to be consistent with the ruling by the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals. Specifically, this means that
the requirements of the 2006 amendment only applies to those registered offenders whose offense
occurred on or after January 1, 2006, which is the effective date of the 2006 amendment. Similarly,
the requirements of the 2011 amendment only applies to those registered offenders whose offense
occurred on or after July 1, 2011, the effective date of the 2011 amendment.
The Deputy Director of Field Operations Administration (FOA) shall issue instructions to Field Agents
implementing the Court’s ruling and this Director’s Office Memorandum.
I know my copy and paste makes it look a little off, but it is plain that the state is changing its enforcement of the registry. Nothing there about those who were wrongly placed on the registry even though there was no registry when they committed their offense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4350">Gerald Trudell</a>.</p>
<p>I have located one reference supporting my earlier post regarding changes in Michigan&#8217;s sex offender registry law, and how the requirements now vary depending upon the conviction date.<br />
<a href="http://www.michigan.gov/documents/corrections/DOM_2018-23_SORA_609801_7.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.michigan.gov/documents/corrections/DOM_2018-23_SORA_609801_7.pdf</a><br />
I hope that copied link works. It was the very last item on the Michigan Department of Corrections &#8220;Policy Directives&#8221; page.<br />
<a href="http://www.michigan.gov/corrections/0,4551,7-119-1441_44369---,00.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.michigan.gov/corrections/0,4551,7-119-1441_44369&#8212;,00.html</a><br />
Of course, they haven&#8217;t corrected the actual Policy Directive it references yet. Here is what it says:<br />
On August 25, 2016, the United States Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals in Doe, et al. v Snyder, et al.,<br />
case nos. 15-1536/2346/2486 ruled that the retroactive application of the 2006 and 2011 amendments<br />
to the Michigan Sex Offenders Registration Act (SORA) were unconstitutional. Both parties<br />
appealed to the United States Supreme Court. The Supreme Court recently denied leave to appeal,<br />
which means that the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals’ decision on retroactivity remains in effect.<br />
PD 01.05.115 “Sex Offenders Registration Act” and its implementing procedure are therefore revised<br />
to be consistent with the ruling by the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals. Specifically, this means that<br />
the requirements of the 2006 amendment only applies to those registered offenders whose offense<br />
occurred on or after January 1, 2006, which is the effective date of the 2006 amendment. Similarly,<br />
the requirements of the 2011 amendment only applies to those registered offenders whose offense<br />
occurred on or after July 1, 2011, the effective date of the 2011 amendment.<br />
The Deputy Director of Field Operations Administration (FOA) shall issue instructions to Field Agents<br />
implementing the Court’s ruling and this Director’s Office Memorandum.<br />
I know my copy and paste makes it look a little off, but it is plain that the state is changing its enforcement of the registry. Nothing there about those who were wrongly placed on the registry even though there was no registry when they committed their offense.</p>
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		By: Gerald Trudell		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4352</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald Trudell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2018 19:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4351&quot;&gt;Bobby&lt;/a&gt;.

This is a reply for Bobby. I got my information from a man on parole in Bay City, MI, who was given the info by his parole agent. It specifically instructs parole agents not to give any help to anyone seeking to be removed from the registry. Is that dirty, or what? I am sure you will be able to petition for removal once they finally sort everything out, but it is obvious that they are determined to drag their feet on this issue. A word of caution though. It appears that Michigan has a rule that you are only permitted to petition for removal one time. So it would be best for you to wait until the state issues specific guidelines before you try it. There are lawyers out there who will take up your case, but they are very expensive, and they can&#039;t guarantee success. I will post more info when I find it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4351">Bobby</a>.</p>
<p>This is a reply for Bobby. I got my information from a man on parole in Bay City, MI, who was given the info by his parole agent. It specifically instructs parole agents not to give any help to anyone seeking to be removed from the registry. Is that dirty, or what? I am sure you will be able to petition for removal once they finally sort everything out, but it is obvious that they are determined to drag their feet on this issue. A word of caution though. It appears that Michigan has a rule that you are only permitted to petition for removal one time. So it would be best for you to wait until the state issues specific guidelines before you try it. There are lawyers out there who will take up your case, but they are very expensive, and they can&#8217;t guarantee success. I will post more info when I find it.</p>
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		By: Bobby		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4351</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2018 17:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4350&quot;&gt;Gerald Trudell&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Gerald,

I just e-mailed Ms Aukerman and Juan Caballero again , on this very issue, this is starting to get ridiculous.

  Where did you find your information? My question is since my conviction date was 6-19-92. That to me would mean I should be removed immediately like NOW. WHY, because when I was convicted Michigan had NO registry yet,.   When I do get replies back from the ACLU. it&#039;s always be patient we are working on it, and we are filing a class action lawsuit.

 I even contact  the cowards up in Lansing like that idiot Rick Jones, and Rick Snyder and Bill Schuette, and of course I get NO reply back from these COWARDS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4350">Gerald Trudell</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Gerald,</p>
<p>I just e-mailed Ms Aukerman and Juan Caballero again , on this very issue, this is starting to get ridiculous.</p>
<p>  Where did you find your information? My question is since my conviction date was 6-19-92. That to me would mean I should be removed immediately like NOW. WHY, because when I was convicted Michigan had NO registry yet,.   When I do get replies back from the ACLU. it&#8217;s always be patient we are working on it, and we are filing a class action lawsuit.</p>
<p> I even contact  the cowards up in Lansing like that idiot Rick Jones, and Rick Snyder and Bill Schuette, and of course I get NO reply back from these COWARDS.</p>
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		By: Gerald Trudell		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4350</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald Trudell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4349&quot;&gt;J&lt;/a&gt;.

I have not been able to locate the information on the internet yet, but the 1 page that i have a picture of appears to be an MDOC policy that the parole department is passing on to parolees. It does warn that the Michigan State Police department is reviewing everything and hasn&#039;t yet determined how to change the registry to comply with the federal court rulings. Here are a couple of quotes from that document:
&quot;Discontinue charging offenders registered solely under retroactivity with SORA violations or technical violations related to SORA, as they are no longer required to abide by SORA&quot;

The next section outlines the registration requirements of sex offenders, which vary according to their offense date.

Requirements for registrants whose offense date is pre 1/1/2006: Report name change; Report address change; Report campus information; Verify according to Tier.

Requirements for registrants whose offense date is between 1/1/2006 and 6/30/2011: Report name change; Report address change; Report campus information; Verify according to Tier; Abide by Student Safety Zone Restrictions.

Requirements for registrants whose offense date was on or after 7/1/2011: Report name change; Report address change; Report campus information; Verify according to Tier; Abide by Student Safety Zone Restrictions; Report employment; Report internet identifiers (must be reported at the offender&#039;s next verification period); Report vehicle information; Report phone numbers (must be reported at the offender&#039;s next verification period); Report passport and immigration documents (must be reported at the offender&#039;s next verification period); Report professional or occupational licenses (must be reported at the offender&#039;s next verification period).
That shows how the registry requirements have gotten more onerous over the years. I have read that the state Attorney General did put out a directive advising agencies to not prosecute offenders for noncompliance related to retroactive requirements, but unless you can afford a good attorney, you just don&#039;t want to push it and possibly become a test case. It would really be nice if the ACLU would update their information and advice on the matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4349">J</a>.</p>
<p>I have not been able to locate the information on the internet yet, but the 1 page that i have a picture of appears to be an MDOC policy that the parole department is passing on to parolees. It does warn that the Michigan State Police department is reviewing everything and hasn&#8217;t yet determined how to change the registry to comply with the federal court rulings. Here are a couple of quotes from that document:<br />
&#8220;Discontinue charging offenders registered solely under retroactivity with SORA violations or technical violations related to SORA, as they are no longer required to abide by SORA&#8221;</p>
<p>The next section outlines the registration requirements of sex offenders, which vary according to their offense date.</p>
<p>Requirements for registrants whose offense date is pre 1/1/2006: Report name change; Report address change; Report campus information; Verify according to Tier.</p>
<p>Requirements for registrants whose offense date is between 1/1/2006 and 6/30/2011: Report name change; Report address change; Report campus information; Verify according to Tier; Abide by Student Safety Zone Restrictions.</p>
<p>Requirements for registrants whose offense date was on or after 7/1/2011: Report name change; Report address change; Report campus information; Verify according to Tier; Abide by Student Safety Zone Restrictions; Report employment; Report internet identifiers (must be reported at the offender&#8217;s next verification period); Report vehicle information; Report phone numbers (must be reported at the offender&#8217;s next verification period); Report passport and immigration documents (must be reported at the offender&#8217;s next verification period); Report professional or occupational licenses (must be reported at the offender&#8217;s next verification period).<br />
That shows how the registry requirements have gotten more onerous over the years. I have read that the state Attorney General did put out a directive advising agencies to not prosecute offenders for noncompliance related to retroactive requirements, but unless you can afford a good attorney, you just don&#8217;t want to push it and possibly become a test case. It would really be nice if the ACLU would update their information and advice on the matter.</p>
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		By: J		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4349</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2018 03:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4348&quot;&gt;Gerry&lt;/a&gt;.

I would love to know what’s going on with Michigan...my 25 years is up and the the state isn’t saying anything nor are there updates from the aclu who is supposedly filing a class action to try and force the state’s hand....I’m trying to be patient as this is the first ray of hope we’ve had in years...if anybody knows anything...I’d be glad to hear it]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/excellent-news-michigans-sex-offender-act-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-4348">Gerry</a>.</p>
<p>I would love to know what’s going on with Michigan&#8230;my 25 years is up and the the state isn’t saying anything nor are there updates from the aclu who is supposedly filing a class action to try and force the state’s hand&#8230;.I’m trying to be patient as this is the first ray of hope we’ve had in years&#8230;if anybody knows anything&#8230;I’d be glad to hear it</p>
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		By: Gerry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2018 20:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a registered offender in Michigan, convicted in 2005. The state of Michigan still hasn&#039;t published any information publically about whether it will obey the federal court ruling. It&#039;s as if they hope people like me will still comply with the retroactive law out of fear. The parole department in Bay City is giving current parolees written guidelines stating that they only have to comply with the requirements in effect when they committed their crime. However, that guide also instructs parole agents not to give information to other offenders when they ask. It&#039;s just ridiculous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a registered offender in Michigan, convicted in 2005. The state of Michigan still hasn&#8217;t published any information publically about whether it will obey the federal court ruling. It&#8217;s as if they hope people like me will still comply with the retroactive law out of fear. The parole department in Bay City is giving current parolees written guidelines stating that they only have to comply with the requirements in effect when they committed their crime. However, that guide also instructs parole agents not to give information to other offenders when they ask. It&#8217;s just ridiculous.</p>
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		By: Bobby		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2017 22:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am on Michigan&#039;s Registry, put on it in 1995, but should not be they claim because I was still on parole in 1995, but I was convicted in 1992 when there was no registry, or talk of one, so not sentenced by a judge to register.  So this is very good news for me I was originally put on it, for 25 years then it was changed to life. So far I have noticed they have changed my registration start , 3 times from 95 to 92 back to 95 and now says 92, so to me that means when they change me back to 25 years, I will be off the registry, unless they change the registration start date back to 95.  I will have to wait and see, but I refuse to give them $50 bucks a year any more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am on Michigan&#8217;s Registry, put on it in 1995, but should not be they claim because I was still on parole in 1995, but I was convicted in 1992 when there was no registry, or talk of one, so not sentenced by a judge to register.  So this is very good news for me I was originally put on it, for 25 years then it was changed to life. So far I have noticed they have changed my registration start , 3 times from 95 to 92 back to 95 and now says 92, so to me that means when they change me back to 25 years, I will be off the registry, unless they change the registration start date back to 95.  I will have to wait and see, but I refuse to give them $50 bucks a year any more.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2017 00:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the law is right know no sex offender list end of story .. no more pay 50 a year or be none complaint !!! if you have kids go to school with they see there plays and football games and things !!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the law is right know no sex offender list end of story .. no more pay 50 a year or be none complaint !!! if you have kids go to school with they see there plays and football games and things !!!</p>
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