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	Comments on: FAC Sends Letter to Gainesville City Commission	</title>
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		By: FAC Contributor #3		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52714</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FAC Contributor #3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 20:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52713&quot;&gt;Kyle M&lt;/a&gt;.

Great - We always need more help in all our committees, INCLUDING LEGAL, so cooperatively we can get more done. Let&#039;s move this conversation offline and strategize how we can help each other in all pending cases.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52713">Kyle M</a>.</p>
<p>Great &#8211; We always need more help in all our committees, INCLUDING LEGAL, so cooperatively we can get more done. Let&#8217;s move this conversation offline and strategize how we can help each other in all pending cases.</p>
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		By: Kyle M		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52713</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 19:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52712&quot;&gt;FAC Contributor #3&lt;/a&gt;.

I understand and do want to move on from this misunderstanding.  I will abide by your wishes.  I do want to clarify that I do not advocate filing pro se for the sake of being a martyr.  I ALWAYS encourage anyone I assist with trying to find affordable legal representation, and where appropriate, like in two of my cases, I request the court to appoint counsel for the litigant.  My issue, at least the one I have perceived from this forum, is that pro se litigation is doomed to fail and should be avoided at all costs, even when the fight warrants litigation.  Many people, especially those in our boat, experience harms caused by the registry that can either be redressed in court or, at the very least, provide a sense of active enablement that can give them peace to their situation.  Unfortunately, they do not have the funds to hire attorneys to fight for them.  To those individuals, I encourage, as should FAC, to be smart and informative, not scared, when facing this demon pro se.  For example, I received an additional college degree in paralegal studies and I am a certified paralegal.  I communicate with attorneys who are gracious enough to provide me advice.  I research case law and analyze those arguments which are successful in court and those which are not before attempting to file a complaint or motion.  I understand my opinion regarding this topic is not a popular one, but I asked us not to jump to conclusions when the prospect of filing pro se arises.  Enough said on this topic.  I agree it is time to move on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52712">FAC Contributor #3</a>.</p>
<p>I understand and do want to move on from this misunderstanding.  I will abide by your wishes.  I do want to clarify that I do not advocate filing pro se for the sake of being a martyr.  I ALWAYS encourage anyone I assist with trying to find affordable legal representation, and where appropriate, like in two of my cases, I request the court to appoint counsel for the litigant.  My issue, at least the one I have perceived from this forum, is that pro se litigation is doomed to fail and should be avoided at all costs, even when the fight warrants litigation.  Many people, especially those in our boat, experience harms caused by the registry that can either be redressed in court or, at the very least, provide a sense of active enablement that can give them peace to their situation.  Unfortunately, they do not have the funds to hire attorneys to fight for them.  To those individuals, I encourage, as should FAC, to be smart and informative, not scared, when facing this demon pro se.  For example, I received an additional college degree in paralegal studies and I am a certified paralegal.  I communicate with attorneys who are gracious enough to provide me advice.  I research case law and analyze those arguments which are successful in court and those which are not before attempting to file a complaint or motion.  I understand my opinion regarding this topic is not a popular one, but I asked us not to jump to conclusions when the prospect of filing pro se arises.  Enough said on this topic.  I agree it is time to move on.</p>
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		By: FAC Contributor #3		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52712</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FAC Contributor #3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 17:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52711&quot;&gt;Kyle M&lt;/a&gt;.

Kyle, we do not encourage pro se litigation because we&#039;ve been very burned by people who created bad case law that all of us have had to try to overcome. That&#039;s not suggesting there are not brilliant non-lawyers out there who are smarter than a Supreme Court Justice, but there are logistical issues that face pro se litigants as well as a general bias against a pro se litigant. 
We all get that you are pushing the pro se angle (and in full disclosure to our readers you prepare paperwork for people to file pro se), that&#039;s your gig and you are entitled to it, but we do not want to endorse it for some pretty valid reasons. First, what happens if/when there is a hearing or trial and your client needs to show up and argue? You can&#039;t represent them and if they can&#039;t hire someone to step in, they are fending for themselves and often left hanging. Second, often people chose not to hire an attorney because they cannot afford one. If they can&#039;t afford an attorney, what will happen when they need to hire expert witnesses? 
For challenges we endorse and help facilitate, we want to make sure they are fought by qualified and licensed attorneys who are not only familiar with the area of law, but the rules of civil procedure and local rules of court. We also want cases to be properly funded so that they can be supported by the best experts and right resources. 
We wish you and everyone anywhere who files a pro se lawsuit the best of luck and hope for tremendous victories. We hope that you can wish FAC the best of luck in our challenges as well, and simply leave it at that.
As far as the &quot;barrage of attacks and criticism&quot;, there&#039;s no barrage here. You should try moderating a forum for registrants to see some of the comments posted by vigilantes. Then you might appreciate what attacks are. If you like, to accommodate your concern I can remove all comments from you or in response to yours and wipe the slate clean. Or, we can just let it go and move on to a different topic. I just can&#039;t handle the drama anymore and you really shouldn&#039;t be texting me (or any board member) at 8PM to complain about comments in this forum. It&#039;s just not appropriate.
So please lets make up and move on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52711">Kyle M</a>.</p>
<p>Kyle, we do not encourage pro se litigation because we&#8217;ve been very burned by people who created bad case law that all of us have had to try to overcome. That&#8217;s not suggesting there are not brilliant non-lawyers out there who are smarter than a Supreme Court Justice, but there are logistical issues that face pro se litigants as well as a general bias against a pro se litigant.<br />
We all get that you are pushing the pro se angle (and in full disclosure to our readers you prepare paperwork for people to file pro se), that&#8217;s your gig and you are entitled to it, but we do not want to endorse it for some pretty valid reasons. First, what happens if/when there is a hearing or trial and your client needs to show up and argue? You can&#8217;t represent them and if they can&#8217;t hire someone to step in, they are fending for themselves and often left hanging. Second, often people chose not to hire an attorney because they cannot afford one. If they can&#8217;t afford an attorney, what will happen when they need to hire expert witnesses?<br />
For challenges we endorse and help facilitate, we want to make sure they are fought by qualified and licensed attorneys who are not only familiar with the area of law, but the rules of civil procedure and local rules of court. We also want cases to be properly funded so that they can be supported by the best experts and right resources.<br />
We wish you and everyone anywhere who files a pro se lawsuit the best of luck and hope for tremendous victories. We hope that you can wish FAC the best of luck in our challenges as well, and simply leave it at that.<br />
As far as the &#8220;barrage of attacks and criticism&#8221;, there&#8217;s no barrage here. You should try moderating a forum for registrants to see some of the comments posted by vigilantes. Then you might appreciate what attacks are. If you like, to accommodate your concern I can remove all comments from you or in response to yours and wipe the slate clean. Or, we can just let it go and move on to a different topic. I just can&#8217;t handle the drama anymore and you really shouldn&#8217;t be texting me (or any board member) at 8PM to complain about comments in this forum. It&#8217;s just not appropriate.<br />
So please lets make up and move on.</p>
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		By: Kyle M		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52711</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52709&quot;&gt;Gina&lt;/a&gt;.

I see the &quot;PRO SE&quot; filter is working brilliantly today.  LOL.  As I type this, there is a pop up in the lower right corner asking to &quot;Let&#039;s spread truth&quot;.  How can you be serious when you cannot post such an innocuous statement as a congratulatory reply to the comment posted by Gina.  You say you want positivity.  Yet, you allow a continuous barrage of attacks and criticism made about one of my comments - which I subsequently apologized for - that you did not post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52709">Gina</a>.</p>
<p>I see the &#8220;PRO SE&#8221; filter is working brilliantly today.  LOL.  As I type this, there is a pop up in the lower right corner asking to &#8220;Let&#8217;s spread truth&#8221;.  How can you be serious when you cannot post such an innocuous statement as a congratulatory reply to the comment posted by Gina.  You say you want positivity.  Yet, you allow a continuous barrage of attacks and criticism made about one of my comments &#8211; which I subsequently apologized for &#8211; that you did not post.</p>
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		By: Kyle M		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52710</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 13:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52702&quot;&gt;Sailtime&lt;/a&gt;.

As an update to the amended Gainesville City Ordinance, please continue to post public comments and send letters.  The first reading of the ordinance was a success.  According to the Mayor, he expected the first reading of the amended ordinance to pass by a 4-3 vote.  Instead, it was unanimous!  The second and final reading will be November 17.  As soon as the agenda is uploaded to the Gainesville City Commissioner Meeting Calendar, please begin posting your comments.  I will keep you updated on what agenda item it is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52702">Sailtime</a>.</p>
<p>As an update to the amended Gainesville City Ordinance, please continue to post public comments and send letters.  The first reading of the ordinance was a success.  According to the Mayor, he expected the first reading of the amended ordinance to pass by a 4-3 vote.  Instead, it was unanimous!  The second and final reading will be November 17.  As soon as the agenda is uploaded to the Gainesville City Commissioner Meeting Calendar, please begin posting your comments.  I will keep you updated on what agenda item it is.</p>
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		By: Gina		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52709</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2022 17:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My husband and I are the ones that brought the suit against the city.  I grew up here and moved back to take care of my father.  After my husband and I bought the house, I learned of the city ordinance.  My husband&#039;s health is declining and since I am his caretaker, he needs to be in Gainesville with me.   Driving back to the Tampa area routinely to take my husband to doctor&#039;s appointment has become harder, since I also work full time.
I tried to do things differently - getting an exception of some sort, but after meeting with the Mayor and the Chief of Police, I was unable to accomplish this.  I also reached out to the City Attorneys with no response.  There was nothing left I could do except for file suit.    A big Thank you to my friend, Kyle, for all of his hard work and research to write the motion and respond to all the hoopla that occurred afterwards.  The case is still pending but has been placed on a &quot;stay&quot; until we see what happens with the ordinance.
I plan to add my comments to the city council as well and be at the meetings when allowed.  I am glad that this change will help a lot of others as well.  Sometimes you have to fight for what is important.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I are the ones that brought the suit against the city.  I grew up here and moved back to take care of my father.  After my husband and I bought the house, I learned of the city ordinance.  My husband&#8217;s health is declining and since I am his caretaker, he needs to be in Gainesville with me.   Driving back to the Tampa area routinely to take my husband to doctor&#8217;s appointment has become harder, since I also work full time.<br />
I tried to do things differently &#8211; getting an exception of some sort, but after meeting with the Mayor and the Chief of Police, I was unable to accomplish this.  I also reached out to the City Attorneys with no response.  There was nothing left I could do except for file suit.    A big Thank you to my friend, Kyle, for all of his hard work and research to write the motion and respond to all the hoopla that occurred afterwards.  The case is still pending but has been placed on a &#8220;stay&#8221; until we see what happens with the ordinance.<br />
I plan to add my comments to the city council as well and be at the meetings when allowed.  I am glad that this change will help a lot of others as well.  Sometimes you have to fight for what is important.</p>
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		By: Education		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52708</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Education]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2022 21:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52704&quot;&gt;Logical&lt;/a&gt;.

As a family member myself in Gainesville, I greatly appreciate this, Logical.  I, too, am writing letters, emails, and sending the research on the ineffectiveness of RR along with the collateral damages they cause.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52704">Logical</a>.</p>
<p>As a family member myself in Gainesville, I greatly appreciate this, Logical.  I, too, am writing letters, emails, and sending the research on the ineffectiveness of RR along with the collateral damages they cause.</p>
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		By: Education		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52707</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Education]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2022 21:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52703&quot;&gt;Logical&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you!  Thank you!  Thank you! Logical]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52703">Logical</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you!  Thank you!  Thank you! Logical</p>
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		By: Edward Ruggles		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52706</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Ruggles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2022 19:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I live in Marion County and once a year my company send me to Gainesville, in the city of. I have to work, live and sleep on the job site and the address is sometimes changing Therefore, before I can accept the job I have to do my homework to make sure that I am at an address the is compliant. If not I have to drive back and fourth between Marion and Gainesville twice a day for about 50 days...the fuel cost alone means I don&#039;t take home the total pay that I&#039;ve earned. But, this is not the only difference between the two cities and counties... Gainesville treats me like I&#039;m human. Thank you Gainesville for even considering this , when most cities and counties want to burn you me if given a reason.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Marion County and once a year my company send me to Gainesville, in the city of. I have to work, live and sleep on the job site and the address is sometimes changing Therefore, before I can accept the job I have to do my homework to make sure that I am at an address the is compliant. If not I have to drive back and fourth between Marion and Gainesville twice a day for about 50 days&#8230;the fuel cost alone means I don&#8217;t take home the total pay that I&#8217;ve earned. But, this is not the only difference between the two cities and counties&#8230; Gainesville treats me like I&#8217;m human. Thank you Gainesville for even considering this , when most cities and counties want to burn you me if given a reason.</p>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52705</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2022 19:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52704&quot;&gt;Logical&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Logical! I would especially encourage any City of Gainesville residents to do this, in their own words, if they have time, or maybe place a call to your commissioner expressing support.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/fac-sends-letter-to-gainesville-city-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-52704">Logical</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, Logical! I would especially encourage any City of Gainesville residents to do this, in their own words, if they have time, or maybe place a call to your commissioner expressing support.</p>
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