Comments on: Federal Judge Allows Challenge to Idaho Registry to Go Forward

By: Alan

Alan — Wed, 05 Jul 2023 13:20:54 +0000

When the USSC incorrectly ruled on SORNA and unleashed this stupidity, they ruled on a civil program whose entire basis was a public registry of where people lived. I have no doubt Idaho is like Florida and most States in that we now have programs with 50-60 new requirements which continue to grow almost every legislative cycle. At some point, one might argue what was once a civil program has now become a criminal sentence due to its expanding nature. I can only imagine that is the argument that is going to be made in Idaho. I wish them the best of luck.

By: Rick

Rick — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 22:49:25 +0000

I like the “clearest proof” comment. Wish that level was applied when coming up with these draconian laws in the first place

By: CherokeeJack

CherokeeJack — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 20:21:01 +0000

So they are allowing it to go forward so they can squash us like bugs, kick us in the tail as we leave the court room and laugh at us as that tail is tucked between our legs. Almost every clause in the registry regime has a path to being arrested so how again is that not punishment?
I could list the 100s of ways we can get arrested for the non punishment, punishment registry but we all already know them very well. Not feeling the love on 4th of July. Our country once again has let us down.

By: Bwj

Bwj — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 16:24:30 +0000

In reply to BAM BAM. Thank you. I keep trudging forward. It's one day at a time.

By: tearfuleagle

tearfuleagle — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 14:22:23 +0000

So this Judge allows the case to go forward: Great News. But then says,

Citing Supreme Court precedent, however, the court warns that “to find SORA unconstitutional, ‘only the clearest proof’ will suffice to override legislative intent and transform what has been denominated a civil remedy into a criminal penalty.”

Just thinking outside the box, maybe instead of trying to get the registry abolished, we agree with SCOTUS, but then show how much the registry has morphed into punishment, and instead of abolished we make the case that it should be rolled back to its original intended aim.

Some of you will think I am crazy, but am I really. What would happen if a Judge in Florida agreed with this argument? Many of us would be off the registry because our offense was before 1997. Many of us would be off the registry because it has been more than 10 years since release of Sanction and only a few would be left under the crippling effects of the 2014 and 2018 laws. Then those under those crippling effects could still make a case that those laws moved the registry from civil to punitive.

Just me thinking outside the box. Bash away!!! Happy 4th of July.

By: BAM BAM

BAM BAM — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 13:08:36 +0000

In reply to Bwj.

I pray you find meaningful work.
Perhaps file a claim for PTSD based on the reasons you can’t find work.
Don’t give up,
Keep mocking on doors, you’ll be surprised what can happen.

By: Bruce M

Bruce M — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 13:04:52 +0000

In reply to Bruce M.

P.S.
just as easy as it is to get a medical marijuana card for anxiety, the doctors used in this process,
Clearly are motivated to approve access to products for a host of traumatic issues.
Perhaps a few doctors who are sympathetic to our cause and willing to go on record?

By: Bruce M

Bruce M — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 13:01:02 +0000

Perhaps Registants could and should start claims of PTSD, based on the punishment our states have slammed us with.

Perhaps with enough
“facts of ABUSE”
A Class Action suit might turn heads to the criminally of our legislators and laws?

By: Bwj

Bwj — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 12:59:55 +0000

I should have studied law and not medicine. Within my experience I would like to know what constitutes civil. My experiences in Florida felt punitive as was Ohio. The state where I live now, I live in farm country, they local Leo mostly leaves me alone. Although finding work is still nearly impossible.

By: Eugene V Debs

Eugene V Debs — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 10:25:29 +0000

Good luck Idaho, with Montana recently saying its registry is punishment hopefully Idaho will follow suit.