Well if the Clements case is successful, you can file a habeas and have a vehicle to challenge your plea.

Sorry to hear about that Curtis. At what point in the future will there be more people on the registry than not. And the fact it is very rare to get removed from the registry, something has to give, but maybe not in my lifetime. I was in my 20s when my crime happened, now I am in my 60s.

I pled to a crime that was not listed for the registry. It was then added and here I am now. The judge even specifically checked with the prosecutor during my sentencing. I NEVER would have taken the plea with this knowledge.

DITTO here… The state is guilty of “peonage” Because they are using a conviction as the excuse that we owe this public safety service to society.
A debt = peonage
Unless we get our due payment for the services rendered.
Its not only a constitutional violation it is also a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1581

@Pat

Well Pat, there was no registry when I was arrested, no registry when I was sentenced and no registry until a week before I was to be released from prison. It was never mentioned in court as there was no registry. If it had been, I would not have taken a plea and would have gone to trial. They took away my choice and my freedom then they added extra bonus points as an afterthought years later as the juicy prize of lifetime offender, public registration and notification.

Fully agree

It is either, as the Thirteenth Amendment defines, Slavery or involuntary servitude (AKA human trafficking), or it is punishment for a crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted.

The fact that a person is sentenced to registration duties/restrictions upon being duly convicted of a crime is the very definition of punishment for the offense. It is a legislatively created debt owed to society resulting from a conviction.

Registrants are in fact “serving time” for their offense. Whether 10 years, 20 years, or a life sentence, it IS a sentence being served.

No matter what they want to say the purpose of that sentence is. A sentence for a crime, is a sentence for a crime, is a sentence for a crime! All day long! No way around it, no matter the reason for it!

UNLESS it was NOT part of a sentence for a crime… in which case it IS “involuntary servitude” unlawfully perpetrated retroactively on the people! PEONAGE!

While the Supreme Court issued several rulings between 1905 and 1914 that undermined the state laws upholding peonage, enforcement was often weak. The practice gradually began to decline in the 1940s, though it remains a part of modern-day labor trafficking. The Thirteenth Amendment’s ban on involuntary servitude and peonage is a foundation of US law, but the history of its exploitation highlights the fragility of legal protections without proper enforcement.

The legislature can create legislation for public safety but when it imposes duties on people, these people MUST be paid for their service or the government is GUILTY of Peonage.

Peonage
Summary: Section 1581 of Title 18 makes it unlawful to hold a person in “debt servitude,” or peonage, which is closely related to involuntary servitude. Section 1581 prohibits using force, the threat of force, or the threat of legal coercion to compel a person to work against his/her will. In addition, the victim’s involuntary servitude must be tied to the payment of a debt. https://www.justice.gov/crt/involuntary-servitude-forced-labor-and-sex-trafficking-statutes-enforced

We won’t even touch on how unlawfully illegal it is to extort money from PFR by attaching fees to the services they are providing… That is just a BIG FAT are you F’ING KIDDING ME!

@TS

Duley noted. We need to get that on the official records as proof.
Now if some of that legislator’s colleagues get on aboard with the idea of the registry being punitive in nature, it could set a groundbreaking event. Regardless, if something doesn’t change, we are all in trouble because I see sting operations every week with a non-existent victim, tricking people to getting arrested and most likely adding to more registered persons.

There have been those judges and justices, even on SCOTUS, e.g., RBG, who noted the punishing effects of it, so it is not completely unknown publicly in opinions. I’d imagine in chambers and behind other closed doors, it is privately said how bad the punishment of it is.