Comments on: GA: Bad bill advances through the legislature (lifetime probation and Halloween signs)

By: JoeM

JoeM — Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:45:31 +0000

In reply to Expostisafacto. Because they lost those cases in state and federal courts back in like 2010 and 2011 Georgia affectively has at least three and maybe four different sets of restrictions that they apply to registrants. I guess now, assuming that they continue to abide by the court decisions, if these new laws pass, they may end up with four or five different sets of restrictions to apply.

By: CherokeeJack

CherokeeJack — Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:04:09 +0000

In reply to Expostisafacto.

MY GOD! The penalties for violating any of their offender ordinances are 10 times worse than what I got for an actual charge.

(g) Any individual who knowingly violates this Code section shall be guilty of a felony and shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than ten nor more than 30 years.
* This includes just walking past a school

Wake up people, they just want us ALL back behind bars because they feel we should all have been given life for any accusations.

By: Expostisafacto

Expostisafacto — Tue, 17 Mar 2020 00:20:37 +0000

In reply to JoeM.

Looks to me like things in Georgia are better for those convicted prior to July 1, 2008. Perhaps this date would serve as a cut off for application of any other SO laws passed in Georgia as well.

https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2014/title-42/chapter-1/article-2/section-42-1-15/

By: Capt Charles Munsey Jr. USN Ret

Capt Charles Munsey Jr. USN Ret — Mon, 16 Mar 2020 15:45:47 +0000

Having had to endure bureaucrats for four years while I did two tours of duty in DC, encourages me to want to get into their ‘knickers’ at every opportunity. There is nothing more beautiful than a ‘pissed-off’ /’outwitted’/’embarrassed’ bureaucrat. If they are going to make our lives miserable, then that is the least we can give back to them.

By: JoeM

JoeM — Mon, 16 Mar 2020 15:28:08 +0000

I was thinking back to my day is in law school 30+ years ago and something occurred to me regarding the Halloween signs. As many of us have discovered, the law can be somewhat nonsensical. When I was taking property and land use law classes, the professors told us that the courts have bent over backwards in the past to help the government when it comes to regulating the use of your property. There were numerous cases where the government, for environmental reasons or others, had affectively legislated away the intended use Of people’s property to the point where about all they could do was stand on it and go wow it’s really pretty here. That was not considered a “taking“ with that said, one case I distinctly remember involved a cable television company in New York in the 1970s where the city at authorized the cable company to run cable onto a bunch of apartment buildings. For some reason one owner Did not want cable on his property at all no matter what. The city argued that this was not a taking and he argued that it was. The courts determined that the city granting their franchisee the right to that 1/4 of an inch wide easement on the building was in fact a taking that had to be compensated after going through the justice system. Yes, this is a very obscure case that in most instances You would’ve never heard about. But riddle me this. If Georgia passes a law that allows may requires a sheriff to come onto your property and put a sign in it on Halloween, how would that really differ from the cable case? Is the legislature attempting a taking, I’ll be at a temporary one every year, without any provisions for due process? This may sound trivial, but in my opinion, you have to attempt to make the powers that be‘s lives as difficult as they are trying to make ours. In the case of registered sex offenders, these guys can get away with almost anything as far as the public is concerned, so you almost have to figure out what is painful to them. Repeatedly losing in court strikes me is one thing that they really don’t like

By: Capt Charles Munsey Jr. USN Ret

Capt Charles Munsey Jr. USN Ret — Mon, 16 Mar 2020 15:16:09 +0000

In reply to CherokeeJack. It's like I told the probation people several years ago when they came to inspect my computer..."have fun, you might learn something!" That was the last time they inspected my computer. Maybe if some sneaky LEO is monitoring this web site he/she might learn something outside of the BS they have been taught in training.

By: JoeM

JoeM — Mon, 16 Mar 2020 15:12:38 +0000

Could you folks let us know who some of these Georgia advocates are? As best as I can tell, if you were convicted before 2003, Georgia laws are much less draconian than Florida. My recollection is that they basically had their backside handed to them by their own state courts and the federal courts around 2010 and had to rewrite their laws. The most important outcomes for people convicted before 2003 was that most of the crazy ex post facto residency restrictions in the perhaps even more insane restrictions on where you could work were declared to be something resembling punishment. My recollection is that they also completely removed the Internet identifier requirements from their laws. I may be wrong but if that is the case, that alone would be a drastic improvement over Florida in that you couldPerhaps conduct some kind of a little business on the Internet using a fictitious name without being cyberstalked and shut down. Of course the bad news is there anyone convicted after 2003 and particularly after 2006 really really doesn’t want to be in Georgia. I would particularly like to find out some more information about the backlog in the level determination process. In theory anyone other than a level III/predator who has been off sanctions for at least 10 years is eligible for removal by the courts in Georgia. With that said, I have seen comments from the various and sundry lawyer websites in Georgia to say it might benefit you to also be leveled. So once again, does anyone know the names of any advocacy groups in Georgia that might be able to direct some of us to sources of information and assistance?

By: Tereto

Tereto — Mon, 16 Mar 2020 14:56:06 +0000

In reply to WC_TN. I'm sorry but in the grand scheme of things, that's a drop in a big bucket. While some judges might actually be sane, the majority is what matters. After all, this country seems to revolve around majority everything, even if it's not the general public majority involved.

By: CherokeeJack

CherokeeJack — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 13:59:17 +0000

In reply to Expostisafacto.

I often wonder how many law enforcement employees actually monitor what we say on F.A.C. I am sure by now they know about this site and many of us open up more on here than we normally do as we somewhat consider this a safe place to share.
Having said that, they do allow anyone to come on here and leave comments and sometimes I see people telling us to refuse to register etc. and am sure those are either plant from law enforcement trying to snare us or people who hate registered citizens and hoping to get us caught up in a web of deception and lies to further our chances of getting locked up on a so called violation.
If you think someone is watching you, you are probably right.

By: JLL

JLL — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 00:36:40 +0000

In reply to CherokeeJack. Some just use tax payers monies more wisely and know who to watch.