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	<description>Reforming Florida’s Sex Offender Registry Laws</description>
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		By: James		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-2/#comment-61566</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 11:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder if we are challenging this in the wrong way.  Rather than fight the registry piecemeal on item at a time could it not be fought by utilizing the 14th Amendments Equal Protection Clause?  Do we push for them to create registries for all crimes.  Drug Dealers, Murderers, DUI&#039;s, Burglars, Arsonists, Tax Evaders, And any other Felons all would have the same registry requirements as PFR&#039;s.  Swamp them with paperwork and Registries to the point that they concede.  The 14th should apply due to status.  Since we are not afforded the equal protections concerning public scrutiny we could argue that &quot;People have a right to know if a habitual drug user or a person that likes to drive drunk is living in their neighborhood so they can protect their family&quot;.  We could continue the argument and demand that Convicted Drug dealers be restricted from living within 1000 feet of schools or going to places where children congregate.  This might be a good tactic to employ.  Yes it seems counter productive however sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.  They have already weaponized the registry against us so why not use it to destroy the registry?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if we are challenging this in the wrong way.  Rather than fight the registry piecemeal on item at a time could it not be fought by utilizing the 14th Amendments Equal Protection Clause?  Do we push for them to create registries for all crimes.  Drug Dealers, Murderers, DUI&#8217;s, Burglars, Arsonists, Tax Evaders, And any other Felons all would have the same registry requirements as PFR&#8217;s.  Swamp them with paperwork and Registries to the point that they concede.  The 14th should apply due to status.  Since we are not afforded the equal protections concerning public scrutiny we could argue that &#8220;People have a right to know if a habitual drug user or a person that likes to drive drunk is living in their neighborhood so they can protect their family&#8221;.  We could continue the argument and demand that Convicted Drug dealers be restricted from living within 1000 feet of schools or going to places where children congregate.  This might be a good tactic to employ.  Yes it seems counter productive however sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.  They have already weaponized the registry against us so why not use it to destroy the registry?</p>
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		By: RM		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61565</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2025 01:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61549&quot;&gt;RR&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with you. Each of these court victories, whether in state or federal court, exerts a chilling effect on the Florida Legislature&#039;s attempts to pass even more draconian laws. We actually know this is true from FDLE&#039;s legislative analyses of bills during the past two legislative sessions, in which FDLE urged the Legislature not to make the registry any more restrictive than it already is. It&#039;s clear that FDLE&#039;s attorneys believe that the Florida registry is legally right on the line between a &quot;civil regulatory scheme&quot; and ex post facto punishment. And if that&#039;s what FDLE thinks, then we all know what the real truth is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61549">RR</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with you. Each of these court victories, whether in state or federal court, exerts a chilling effect on the Florida Legislature&#8217;s attempts to pass even more draconian laws. We actually know this is true from FDLE&#8217;s legislative analyses of bills during the past two legislative sessions, in which FDLE urged the Legislature not to make the registry any more restrictive than it already is. It&#8217;s clear that FDLE&#8217;s attorneys believe that the Florida registry is legally right on the line between a &#8220;civil regulatory scheme&#8221; and ex post facto punishment. And if that&#8217;s what FDLE thinks, then we all know what the real truth is.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-2/#comment-61564</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2025 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-2/#comment-61561&quot;&gt;Gene1720&lt;/a&gt;.

Gene
In Florida, Sexual Predator is actually stated on the licenses, whereas those of us listed as sex offender, it does not say that, it just has a statue number. Having said that, any law enforcement who scan our card it comes up as well as other places like the DMV. 
They remind me I am an offender every time my license renews. I always thank them for reminding me because all of us always forget we are listed as offenders don&#039;t ya know. If not for those reminders I guess we would all be in prison, right? 

And to your concerns, yes it would be nice to not have that on our licenses, but I will take a statue number over having sex offender on my license. My biggest complaint is, if having predator on your license is compelled speech, how is the registry not? Question mark to the 100th power.
Every once in a while, a victory is given and taking the word predator off those people&#039;s license will greatly lower their harm risk. But the registry still harms us on a daily basis depending on who looks at it and what their intentions are. I have had my windows broken with rocks and gun fire, had feces thrown at my house and too many other incidents to take up your time. Cops do nothing about it but tell me to file an online report.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-2/#comment-61561">Gene1720</a>.</p>
<p>Gene<br />
In Florida, Sexual Predator is actually stated on the licenses, whereas those of us listed as sex offender, it does not say that, it just has a statue number. Having said that, any law enforcement who scan our card it comes up as well as other places like the DMV.<br />
They remind me I am an offender every time my license renews. I always thank them for reminding me because all of us always forget we are listed as offenders don&#8217;t ya know. If not for those reminders I guess we would all be in prison, right? </p>
<p>And to your concerns, yes it would be nice to not have that on our licenses, but I will take a statue number over having sex offender on my license. My biggest complaint is, if having predator on your license is compelled speech, how is the registry not? Question mark to the 100th power.<br />
Every once in a while, a victory is given and taking the word predator off those people&#8217;s license will greatly lower their harm risk. But the registry still harms us on a daily basis depending on who looks at it and what their intentions are. I have had my windows broken with rocks and gun fire, had feces thrown at my house and too many other incidents to take up your time. Cops do nothing about it but tell me to file an online report.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61563</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2025 19:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61562&quot;&gt;FactsShouldMatter&lt;/a&gt;.

@Facts
And for those of us whose crimes were committed 30 or more years ago (mine was more than that) why are we still considered dangerous? Do they think if someone wanted to re-offend a public shaming site is going to stop someone who is Hell bent on offending? 
Makes no sense to me other than the registry creates jobs. I mean try and imagine, each sheriff&#039;s office in each state has dedicated men and women working in the registry departments. Fifty states with numerous counties equates to multiple thousands of jobs. 
And where is that funding coming from? Getting paid to suppress and oppress a population of so-called subset group of individuals is not my dream job.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61562">FactsShouldMatter</a>.</p>
<p>@Facts<br />
And for those of us whose crimes were committed 30 or more years ago (mine was more than that) why are we still considered dangerous? Do they think if someone wanted to re-offend a public shaming site is going to stop someone who is Hell bent on offending?<br />
Makes no sense to me other than the registry creates jobs. I mean try and imagine, each sheriff&#8217;s office in each state has dedicated men and women working in the registry departments. Fifty states with numerous counties equates to multiple thousands of jobs.<br />
And where is that funding coming from? Getting paid to suppress and oppress a population of so-called subset group of individuals is not my dream job.</p>
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		By: FactsShouldMatter		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61562</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FactsShouldMatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2025 15:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61558&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

If this type of treatment (free searchable private background information and criminal history) were foisted upon any other set of ex-offenders that have already paid their debt and complete their sentence, there would be RIOTS, CHAOS AND BLOOD IN THE STREETS. It would be worse than JAN 6th. So yes, what makes the registry SO dangerous - which will continue to get worse - is all those 3rd party apps leaching off the registry and cross-aggregating our information to promote a false narrative of public safety. 

They are using our likeness, name, background, history etc, to promote a climate of constant fear, hate and resentment. Not safety, prevention or awareness. It&#039;s all part of the social media&#039;s capitalistic scheme of  exploiting the weak and easily mislead by triggering their insecurities and fears for engagement and profit. 

WE are being used to facilitate a constant climate of paranoia- for-profit scam which the public is being encouraged to actively participate in. 

Nothing will change until lawmakers fear our voices and concerns MORE than the people that want to constantly know where we live and monitor our movements.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61558">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>If this type of treatment (free searchable private background information and criminal history) were foisted upon any other set of ex-offenders that have already paid their debt and complete their sentence, there would be RIOTS, CHAOS AND BLOOD IN THE STREETS. It would be worse than JAN 6th. So yes, what makes the registry SO dangerous &#8211; which will continue to get worse &#8211; is all those 3rd party apps leaching off the registry and cross-aggregating our information to promote a false narrative of public safety. </p>
<p>They are using our likeness, name, background, history etc, to promote a climate of constant fear, hate and resentment. Not safety, prevention or awareness. It&#8217;s all part of the social media&#8217;s capitalistic scheme of  exploiting the weak and easily mislead by triggering their insecurities and fears for engagement and profit. </p>
<p>WE are being used to facilitate a constant climate of paranoia- for-profit scam which the public is being encouraged to actively participate in. </p>
<p>Nothing will change until lawmakers fear our voices and concerns MORE than the people that want to constantly know where we live and monitor our movements.</p>
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		By: Gene1720		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-2/#comment-61561</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gene1720]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2025 04:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why is this only about &quot;predator&quot; and not &quot;offender&quot;? My driver&#039;s License has the statute and hologram too. I was never convicted, but am forced to register as a SO. Not a convicted felon, but a convicted SO. The laws have changed so many times that it is impossible keep up. My family would like to move to a nicer home, but we can&#039;t find any info on where we can legally move. I&#039;m about to climb up on my roof and start a hunger strike. Can&#039;t deal with this crap much longer!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is this only about &#8220;predator&#8221; and not &#8220;offender&#8221;? My driver&#8217;s License has the statute and hologram too. I was never convicted, but am forced to register as a SO. Not a convicted felon, but a convicted SO. The laws have changed so many times that it is impossible keep up. My family would like to move to a nicer home, but we can&#8217;t find any info on where we can legally move. I&#8217;m about to climb up on my roof and start a hunger strike. Can&#8217;t deal with this crap much longer!</p>
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		By: tearfuleagle		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61560</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tearfuleagle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2025 21:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61555&quot;&gt;Kyle M&lt;/a&gt;.

I hope you win, I do not think it should be anywhere on the DL.  When the cops pull you over, they run your plate.  They know that the vehicle is either registered to the PFR or it is at least flagged as being registered.  I can not think of anyone else who really needs to know.  IE do people convicted of bank robbery have Bank Robber on their DL? Nope but should that teller behind the desk know.  Perhaps.  Do those convicted of shoplifting have Shoplifter on their DL nope but should the person taking a check from a shopper know.  Perhaps.  When the bouncer at the club checks ID&#039;s do those convicted of DUI have DUI on their DL, nope But should the bartender or bouncer know.  Perhaps.  

We could go on and on.  LOL.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61555">Kyle M</a>.</p>
<p>I hope you win, I do not think it should be anywhere on the DL.  When the cops pull you over, they run your plate.  They know that the vehicle is either registered to the PFR or it is at least flagged as being registered.  I can not think of anyone else who really needs to know.  IE do people convicted of bank robbery have Bank Robber on their DL? Nope but should that teller behind the desk know.  Perhaps.  Do those convicted of shoplifting have Shoplifter on their DL nope but should the person taking a check from a shopper know.  Perhaps.  When the bouncer at the club checks ID&#8217;s do those convicted of DUI have DUI on their DL, nope But should the bartender or bouncer know.  Perhaps.  </p>
<p>We could go on and on.  LOL.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61559</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2025 19:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61555&quot;&gt;Kyle M&lt;/a&gt;.

@Kyle

Hoping and praying for you. Go get em tiger.
Will you use a lawyer or you going freestyle. (Going it alone)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61555">Kyle M</a>.</p>
<p>@Kyle</p>
<p>Hoping and praying for you. Go get em tiger.<br />
Will you use a lawyer or you going freestyle. (Going it alone)</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61558</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2025 19:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61554&quot;&gt;FactsShouldMatter&lt;/a&gt;.

@Facts
I do not know why public shaming us on websites is not compelled speech. If a drivers license that hardly any sees as it is mostly in your wallet until you need it, is compelled speech, how come ALL of our info on a site calling us a label Sex offender/predator is ok? 
WAY more people looks at those sites and are even blasted across the Nextdoor app (Which we are banned from).
I know a lot about law and this just befuddles me to no end that a public shaming site is ok but a piece of plastic that is not publicly viewed is. (I hope someone else follows what I am saying) it just doesn&#039;t make sense. Rulings often do not make sense anyway when dealing with sexual offender designations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61554">FactsShouldMatter</a>.</p>
<p>@Facts<br />
I do not know why public shaming us on websites is not compelled speech. If a drivers license that hardly any sees as it is mostly in your wallet until you need it, is compelled speech, how come ALL of our info on a site calling us a label Sex offender/predator is ok?<br />
WAY more people looks at those sites and are even blasted across the Nextdoor app (Which we are banned from).<br />
I know a lot about law and this just befuddles me to no end that a public shaming site is ok but a piece of plastic that is not publicly viewed is. (I hope someone else follows what I am saying) it just doesn&#8217;t make sense. Rulings often do not make sense anyway when dealing with sexual offender designations.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61557</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2025 19:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61556&quot;&gt;Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com&lt;/a&gt;.

@Derek

Not to be mean but calling a judge out on a public site as a blithering idiot doesn&#039;t really help our cause. Just saying. 
F.A.C is a public site and there are people who come on here who do not mean good and sure they have snitches who report back on everything we say and do.
That to me means that gives them leverage knowing our every move, legally.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/good-news-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-61556">Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com</a>.</p>
<p>@Derek</p>
<p>Not to be mean but calling a judge out on a public site as a blithering idiot doesn&#8217;t really help our cause. Just saying.<br />
F.A.C is a public site and there are people who come on here who do not mean good and sure they have snitches who report back on everything we say and do.<br />
That to me means that gives them leverage knowing our every move, legally.</p>
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