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		By: Jack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2020 21:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-2/#comment-36353&quot;&gt;TruthandConsequences&lt;/a&gt;.

This dude knows what it means lol. The courts know this is punishment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-2/#comment-36353">TruthandConsequences</a>.</p>
<p>This dude knows what it means lol. The courts know this is punishment.</p>
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		By: Derrick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2020 16:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alaska  Edit
On 25 July 2008, the Alaska Supreme Court ruled that the Alaska Sex Offender Registration Act’s registration violated the ex post facto clause of the state&#039;s constitution and ruled that the requirement does not apply to persons who committed their crimes before the act became effective on 10 August 1994.[12]]]></description>
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On 25 July 2008, the Alaska Supreme Court ruled that the Alaska Sex Offender Registration Act’s registration violated the ex post facto clause of the state&#8217;s constitution and ruled that the requirement does not apply to persons who committed their crimes before the act became effective on 10 August 1994.[12]</p>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-2/#comment-36364</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2020 15:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-2/#comment-36359&quot;&gt;DavidM&lt;/a&gt;.

We have all the stats we need to expose the hypocrisy of the registry.  Our problem is not getting the right statistics, but incorporating those statistics into the law, overcoming bad law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-2/#comment-36359">DavidM</a>.</p>
<p>We have all the stats we need to expose the hypocrisy of the registry.  Our problem is not getting the right statistics, but incorporating those statistics into the law, overcoming bad law.</p>
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		By: Ed C		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2020 14:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-2/#comment-36359&quot;&gt;DavidM&lt;/a&gt;.

Unfortunately those statistics are hard to come by in any cohesive form.  States have different statutory definitions and record keeping is not consistent between states.  It may be possible to develop such statistics from a single jurisdiction.  However, doing it globally will be nearly impossible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-2/#comment-36359">DavidM</a>.</p>
<p>Unfortunately those statistics are hard to come by in any cohesive form.  States have different statutory definitions and record keeping is not consistent between states.  It may be possible to develop such statistics from a single jurisdiction.  However, doing it globally will be nearly impossible.</p>
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		By: no hope		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[no hope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2020 17:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-1/#comment-36361&quot;&gt;Maestro&lt;/a&gt;.

VT and UT are also states that allow you to get off permanantly and i am sure there are others in fact the population of RSO&#039;s in VT has risen 300% over the past 2 years i am sure because there are people looking to get off of the registry and try and live as normal a life as they can. Unfortunality until we win in court even if we did move and get off the registry in another state because we were put on it in Florida we can never come off no matter what]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-1/#comment-36361">Maestro</a>.</p>
<p>VT and UT are also states that allow you to get off permanantly and i am sure there are others in fact the population of RSO&#8217;s in VT has risen 300% over the past 2 years i am sure because there are people looking to get off of the registry and try and live as normal a life as they can. Unfortunality until we win in court even if we did move and get off the registry in another state because we were put on it in Florida we can never come off no matter what</p>
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		By: Maestro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maestro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2020 20:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-1/#comment-36360&quot;&gt;Media&lt;/a&gt;.

CT is one of those states with the 10 yr minimum for registry unless it’s a child under 12. And CT is one of those states where when you’re off the registry- you’re off the registry. 
A good argument should be made to other states to follow that idea. There is NO NEED to put people BACK on the registry if they are off of it and decide to move. REALITY is something the court system doesn’t like very much. And REALITY is that no one thinks to themselves “Gee, let me look up all the laws of the state I am interested in moving to”. This is 1 country. Not 50 countries in one continent. When people regain their freedoms and liberties, they are under the impression that they have regained their freedoms and their liberties. Period. And the entire population of registered people are NOT aware of FAC or NARSOL to know what’s going on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-1/#comment-36360">Media</a>.</p>
<p>CT is one of those states with the 10 yr minimum for registry unless it’s a child under 12. And CT is one of those states where when you’re off the registry- you’re off the registry.<br />
A good argument should be made to other states to follow that idea. There is NO NEED to put people BACK on the registry if they are off of it and decide to move. REALITY is something the court system doesn’t like very much. And REALITY is that no one thinks to themselves “Gee, let me look up all the laws of the state I am interested in moving to”. This is 1 country. Not 50 countries in one continent. When people regain their freedoms and liberties, they are under the impression that they have regained their freedoms and their liberties. Period. And the entire population of registered people are NOT aware of FAC or NARSOL to know what’s going on.</p>
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		By: Media		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Media]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2020 19:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-1/#comment-36358&quot;&gt;Maestro&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for the link to the statute.

If I am remembering correctly, CT is one of the better states to live in as a registrant.  Or am I remembering incorrectly?

I agree and I often state in my comments/letters that most of the people on the registry are people for which the registry was never intended.  Even Patty Wetteringly, the mother who helped jumpstart Congress into starting the registry, agrees.

I am a Christian and do not even begin to &quot;defend&quot; those who spurn those forced to be on the registry.  As I have said before at this site, my husband and I only give our donations to a church that accepts registrants with open arms, and I had to go about 100 miles to find that church.  I read the Bible daily.  These so-called Christians are not obeying the commands given in scripture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-1/#comment-36358">Maestro</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for the link to the statute.</p>
<p>If I am remembering correctly, CT is one of the better states to live in as a registrant.  Or am I remembering incorrectly?</p>
<p>I agree and I often state in my comments/letters that most of the people on the registry are people for which the registry was never intended.  Even Patty Wetteringly, the mother who helped jumpstart Congress into starting the registry, agrees.</p>
<p>I am a Christian and do not even begin to &#8220;defend&#8221; those who spurn those forced to be on the registry.  As I have said before at this site, my husband and I only give our donations to a church that accepts registrants with open arms, and I had to go about 100 miles to find that church.  I read the Bible daily.  These so-called Christians are not obeying the commands given in scripture.</p>
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		By: DavidM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2020 16:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has anyone ever seen  any statistics on those on the registry as to how many  fit into the many different groups that are included in it. 
 Like , Romeo and Juliet, indecent exposure, pornography, urinatiion in the wrong place,  child abuse like spanking a child when your spouse doesn’t believe in spanking,  possibly false charges from a angry spouse, charges from minors who have since admitted they made it up. How many actual violent sexual assaults and of those how many were against an ex-spouse and how many were against a consenting minor ( though they had no legal right to consent)  or a consenting adult who may have had too much to drink and consented but later regretted it and filed charges. I’m sure there are many other situations that could be added. 
  We really need some statistics on these matters to make further arguments  exposing the hypocrisy of the registry.  If anyone has seen any of these statistics from a none biased source I would  like to see it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone ever seen  any statistics on those on the registry as to how many  fit into the many different groups that are included in it.<br />
 Like , Romeo and Juliet, indecent exposure, pornography, urinatiion in the wrong place,  child abuse like spanking a child when your spouse doesn’t believe in spanking,  possibly false charges from a angry spouse, charges from minors who have since admitted they made it up. How many actual violent sexual assaults and of those how many were against an ex-spouse and how many were against a consenting minor ( though they had no legal right to consent)  or a consenting adult who may have had too much to drink and consented but later regretted it and filed charges. I’m sure there are many other situations that could be added.<br />
  We really need some statistics on these matters to make further arguments  exposing the hypocrisy of the registry.  If anyone has seen any of these statistics from a none biased source I would  like to see it.</p>
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		By: Maestro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maestro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2020 15:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-1/#comment-36357&quot;&gt;Maestro&lt;/a&gt;.

I would also like to add that since the state and law enforcement all saw this as the CONSENSUAL relationship that it was, myself and others in the same situation should NOT be subjected to the sex offender registry because WE ARE NOT WHAT THE REGISTRY WAS EVEN CREATED FOR. 
My age when my offense happened is irrelevant yet it’s what most people ask me as if they’re going to give me their own “free pass” if I was maybe 19 at the time. But you see the law CLEARLY states that if the person is UNDER 16, the “actor” cannot be more than 2 yrs older.

The registry was not created for these type of situations that - although they are illegal - many of us when we were younger in Generation X found it cool to get with older people. I myself did it. Most of the girls in my freshmen yr of high school were messing with 20 yr old men. It can be 
“wrong” and get you a conviction (the minimum is 9 months for this) but it doesn’t have to land people on a registry that was created for lunatics who KIDNAPPED, RAPED and MURDERED their child victims.

And no amount of people trying to make me feel bad about my opinion are going to make me change my opinion. 
Since we’re in this strange “cancel culture”, how about we cancel Elvis Presley? Priscilla herself, the woman who would be considered a “victim” just like my alleged “victim” doesn’t have any issues with her and Elvis’s age difference. She did an interview about 2 yrs ago which can be seen on YouTube where she is literally giggling at the fact that their relationship was illegal. 
So when S.O. treatment leaders and probation officers would ask me “How do you think your victim feels”, I would upset them by saying the truth: “I don’t know. You won’t let me talk to her about it. Not even to apologize to her.”

They didn’t know what to say to that.

The registry is a hot mess but unfortunately far too many people, CHRISTIANS INCLUDED, have come to rely on it. Absolute 0 forgiveness. Yet, in so many social media comments I see people referencing “god” while also saying the accused/convicted sex offender should be killed. Interesting, eh? I think so. And I enjoy calling them out on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-1/#comment-36357">Maestro</a>.</p>
<p>I would also like to add that since the state and law enforcement all saw this as the CONSENSUAL relationship that it was, myself and others in the same situation should NOT be subjected to the sex offender registry because WE ARE NOT WHAT THE REGISTRY WAS EVEN CREATED FOR.<br />
My age when my offense happened is irrelevant yet it’s what most people ask me as if they’re going to give me their own “free pass” if I was maybe 19 at the time. But you see the law CLEARLY states that if the person is UNDER 16, the “actor” cannot be more than 2 yrs older.</p>
<p>The registry was not created for these type of situations that &#8211; although they are illegal &#8211; many of us when we were younger in Generation X found it cool to get with older people. I myself did it. Most of the girls in my freshmen yr of high school were messing with 20 yr old men. It can be<br />
“wrong” and get you a conviction (the minimum is 9 months for this) but it doesn’t have to land people on a registry that was created for lunatics who KIDNAPPED, RAPED and MURDERED their child victims.</p>
<p>And no amount of people trying to make me feel bad about my opinion are going to make me change my opinion.<br />
Since we’re in this strange “cancel culture”, how about we cancel Elvis Presley? Priscilla herself, the woman who would be considered a “victim” just like my alleged “victim” doesn’t have any issues with her and Elvis’s age difference. She did an interview about 2 yrs ago which can be seen on YouTube where she is literally giggling at the fact that their relationship was illegal.<br />
So when S.O. treatment leaders and probation officers would ask me “How do you think your victim feels”, I would upset them by saying the truth: “I don’t know. You won’t let me talk to her about it. Not even to apologize to her.”</p>
<p>They didn’t know what to say to that.</p>
<p>The registry is a hot mess but unfortunately far too many people, CHRISTIANS INCLUDED, have come to rely on it. Absolute 0 forgiveness. Yet, in so many social media comments I see people referencing “god” while also saying the accused/convicted sex offender should be killed. Interesting, eh? I think so. And I enjoy calling them out on it.</p>
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		By: Maestro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maestro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2020 15:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/guilt-by-association-labeling-research-based-policy-suggestions-as-pro-offender/comment-page-1/#comment-36355&quot;&gt;Media&lt;/a&gt;.

I think the article was fabulous except for that word “violent” always used in regards to sex offenses. Yes, I did log in to Medium and even downloaded the app and still couldn’t see a place to leave a comment but saw other comments left.
I am from CT. Did the sex offender treatment group in CT. They clearly said: If she was 16 you wouldn’t be here. 
Before I was sentenced, the probation officer who conducted my PSI said the same thing. The arresting police said the same thing.

https://law.justia.com/codes/connecticut/2005/title53a/sec53a-71.html

In the state of CT 16 is the legal age to have a relationship with anyone 16 yrs of age or older. Only if you’re under 16 the other person cannot be more than 2 yrs older. Also, if you’re 16 the other person cannot be 2 yrs younger.]]></description>
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<p>I think the article was fabulous except for that word “violent” always used in regards to sex offenses. Yes, I did log in to Medium and even downloaded the app and still couldn’t see a place to leave a comment but saw other comments left.<br />
I am from CT. Did the sex offender treatment group in CT. They clearly said: If she was 16 you wouldn’t be here.<br />
Before I was sentenced, the probation officer who conducted my PSI said the same thing. The arresting police said the same thing.</p>
<p><a href="https://law.justia.com/codes/connecticut/2005/title53a/sec53a-71.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://law.justia.com/codes/connecticut/2005/title53a/sec53a-71.html</a></p>
<p>In the state of CT 16 is the legal age to have a relationship with anyone 16 yrs of age or older. Only if you’re under 16 the other person cannot be more than 2 yrs older. Also, if you’re 16 the other person cannot be 2 yrs younger.</p>
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