We are definitely on the same page. If you can, please keep me updated.
Thanks,
Dennis

In the courts, a definition is not the same thing as proof. When it comes to punishment, there isn’t actually any real dispute over the definition. What we need now right now are declarations.

Not using Ai as the one you have to convince. It’s used as a way to define, what psychological punishment is.
Another definition is arrived from Wikipedia, and their response is:

Psychological punishments are punishments that aim to cause mental pain or discomfort in order to punish an individual. Psychological punishments are usually designed to cause discomfort or pain through creating negative emotions such as humiliation, shame and fear within an individual or by depriving the individual of sensory and/or social stimulation.

Not as simply as civil regulatory, this goes to prove that this is actually punishment. Possibly to be used in a way to convince a court.

Remember its not AI who we have to convince. Its the lawmakers. Also we need to show the public the truth

General:

Physical punishment involves the intentional infliction of physical pain or discomfort as a disciplinary measure. Two common examples are:
Spanking (striking a child on the buttocks with an open hand).
Hitting or slapping other parts of the body (e.g., the hand or face) as a form of corporal punishment.

Psychological punishment involves causing emotional or mental distress, fear, humiliation, or isolation without physical contact. Two common examples are:
Verbal shaming or harsh criticism intended to induce guilt or lower self-esteem (e.g., calling a child “stupid” or “worthless” for a mistake).
Prolonged isolation or withdrawal of affection/attention as a deliberate consequence (e.g., extended silent treatment or locking a child alone in a room for long periods).
These are descriptive examples only; the effectiveness, ethics, and potential long-term effects of both physical and psychological punishment are subjects of ongoing research and debate in psychology and child development.

Sex Offender:

Physical punishment (applied to a convicted sex offender through the legal system) involves restrictions or interventions that affect the body or physical freedom. Two examples are:
Incarceration in prison (physical confinement, loss of liberty, and the associated physical conditions of custody).
Court-ordered chemical castration or other mandated medical interventions in jurisdictions where these are legally authorized as part of sentencing or supervised release conditions.

Psychological punishment involves measures that create ongoing mental, emotional, or social distress, stigma, or isolation. Two examples are:
Mandatory sex-offender registration and public notification requirements (which produce lasting social stigma, restricted housing/employment options, and public shaming).
Strict community supervision, residency restrictions, and mandated psychological treatment or monitoring programs that impose continuous psychological pressure, loss of privacy, and social isolation.
These are descriptive examples of measures used in various legal systems. Effectiveness, ethics, constitutionality, and long-term outcomes remain subjects of research and legal debate.

I can verify this was helping Ronnie in legal this week. MEMBERS THEY ARE BUSY and backed up but in a good way as this is a time consuming suit.

Kurtis, it’s happening. We are filing a lawsuit.

Well something needs to be done but honestly when will it happen or even if?

Thanks None. I presume, since the White Paper was authored anonymously, that you were the one who put it together. That’s fine and it’s good work. The problem with using any of the findings or citing to them as scientific research is that it’s unpublished and not peer reviewed (which is not critical, but carries a lot of weight when it comes to how authoritative a Court would find it). You base the statistic that a registrant commits suicide every 16 hours, but base that number on an arbitrary multiplier.

What I would suggest is contacting some of the main social scientists in this arena and sharing the report with them. Maybe they would consider co-authoring? Maybe they can help get it published?

I’ve forwarded your White Paper to Jackie in our education and research committee. She is working with some of these social scientists and is collaborating on a study. I’ll ask her to get in touch.