The judges, prosecutors, police officers, forensic people, supreme, and appellate court justices are all in bed together. They’re a family and more likely to support one another than rule or go against. These need to be broken up and be separate entities.

The question is who sits on the Supreme Court for Illinois. Who were the judges that made this decision? Also how did such an awful law get passed in the first place? We need to go to the sources and advocate for change at the source. Some of you on this board sound like you’ve given up and are already defeated. You say that nothing can be done. You give the government too much power and your voice too little. Everyone and our families should be at these court houses too. Quit giving up and start getting together. If blacks, gays, women’s right groups can ban together, the sex offenders and families affected by them should be able to come together against the harshness of these laws and advocate for their fair treatment too!

I’d be really curious to know what percentage of the total taxes we pay would apply to the tax-funded places or things that we (uniquely) are banned from? I’d imagine that tax percentage would amount to well under 2%.

I personally wish more judges were “letter of the law.” Far too many of them stick to or ignore the law based on their own personal preferences, biases, or convenience. Superior/criminal court judges are elected, so politics play a role as well. Indeed, the politics of the moment swing far more discretionary rulings and opinions than the justice and fairness ever will.

There is a reason why 90-plus percent (my own personal guesstimate. It could be more or less, I really don’t know) of rulings favorable to registrants come from federal courts and state supreme courts – those judges are appointed for life. There’s no real blowback for them when they make unpopular rulings except possibly not being considered for higher courts which many of them don’t aspire to anyway.

Do police 🚔 make Florida a safer place when they arrest a 6 year old girl in her school and take her to juve? Watch body cam footage and decide for yourself! As a parent how do you feel about your 6 year old daughter’s hands being restrained as she is taken to ride alone with 👮 policeman.
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/os-ne-orlando-police-body-camera-6-year-old-arrest-20200224-rlg2ukttdvhehpoj2ki7irqe74-story.html?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=exchange&tblci=GiDx8_AZOkzM27AuF0pHap0MqG5mgI870HFXCE8LtUi6JCCP3z8#tblciGiDx8_AZOkzM27AuF0pHap0MqG5mgI870HFXCE8LtUi6JCCP3z8

I think you misread what I said I agreed with you :

“I agree it would be a waste of class action resources, but still BS that we have to pay to support amenities we are banned from using. ”

The ultimate goal is to do away with the registry all together and this would cover all the other issues in one clean swoop.
However, if that lawsuit ultimately fails, we may have to take on individual ordinances as with the way things are going with “Pushing” the law to the limits, we may be arrested for merely leaving our own homes.
Scary stuff

We have a finite amount of resources raised to bring legal challenges. You can see the amounts on the thermometers on our site.
I think there are so many potential challenges to bring and if enough of our members feel strongly enough that the amount of taxes allocated to parks is the battle we should take on, I will defer to the majority and apply resources to that fight.
Candidly, however, laws that create homelessness, that separate families, that restrict necessities of life are the types of challenges that are more compelling when I sit down with an attorney or legal aid org to encourage them to take a case. Keep in mind, the money we raise goes towards costs, not attorneys fees.

It would be one thing where an elderly lady says she shouldn’t owe taxes for parks and other services she never uses. She would be told however that they are there for you IF you do decide to use them.

In OUR situation, we pay taxes for something we are not allowed to use. I agree it would be a waste of class action resources, but still BS that we have to pay to support amenities we are banned from using. Image if you got a water bill each month but the county/city never connected the pipes to your house?
AND it is not just BEING in a park that can get you arrested, some cities have distances you have to be away from a park to be arrested. Heck you could be 3 blocks away picking up a pizza and get arrested for being NEAR a park. What school did these lawmakers graduate from anyway?

We prioritize our suits by (1) which requirements have the most debilitating impact on our population, (2) which raise legal arguments that have the most merit, and (3) which suits we can afford to bring.

There are some suits which have strong legal merit (ie: Proximity Ordinances) but they only impact select counties (ie: Brevard and Seminole) so it’s tougher to raise funds and we have fewer members who will benefit. Another example is the registration fees. That would be a great case, but not all counties charge them, so we would have to collect from only those that do, because people who stand to gain nothing from a win are less likely to donate.

There are a world of other factors that come into play. Some challenges require multiple expert witnesses ($$$) and others don’t because the harm is apparent. The Ex Post Facto Plus case is SUPER heavy on expert witnesses, whereas another challenge that’s on our radar (the branding on drivers licenses) would likely not require many experts.

It’s considered hearsay. I’m guessing because the information came from another leo, off duty, that the arresting officer went with it.

If the person being arrested admitted to the violation… Game over.