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	Comments on: Illinoisans working to make changes in their registries	</title>
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	<description>Reforming Florida’s Sex Offender Registry Laws</description>
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		By: Big_Al_JaxFL		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58977</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Big_Al_JaxFL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2023 00:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58976&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

And your comment speaks to why we need to spend as much or more effort getting with the legal teams for each county.  If the county finds there is a legal issue they have to vote in a manner that does not violate the law... even if if is not a popular answer.  Lets make sure the county legal teams are aware of what is and is not allowed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58976">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>And your comment speaks to why we need to spend as much or more effort getting with the legal teams for each county.  If the county finds there is a legal issue they have to vote in a manner that does not violate the law&#8230; even if if is not a popular answer.  Lets make sure the county legal teams are aware of what is and is not allowed.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58976</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2023 23:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58975&quot;&gt;Eugene V. Debs&lt;/a&gt;.

That is why they said they would re-address the ordinance in another meeting after speaking with legal counsel.

Where I live, there are about 200 people living in the woods. They run them off then they just build another camp somewhere else. I am sure many are ex felons who had nothing or nobody to rely on once released. One guy I talked to said he gets a check every month from the military but he cannot find a place to let him rent because of his charges.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58975">Eugene V. Debs</a>.</p>
<p>That is why they said they would re-address the ordinance in another meeting after speaking with legal counsel.</p>
<p>Where I live, there are about 200 people living in the woods. They run them off then they just build another camp somewhere else. I am sure many are ex felons who had nothing or nobody to rely on once released. One guy I talked to said he gets a check every month from the military but he cannot find a place to let him rent because of his charges.</p>
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		By: Eugene V. Debs		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58975</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eugene V. Debs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2023 18:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58974&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/local/volusia/2023/10/18/volusia-county-sexual-predators-could-get-tougher-distance-requirement/71170587007/

“Dempsey raised concerns about creating a more dangerous situation with the ordinance by causing sex offenders and predators to become homeless”

Dempsey said that before the meeting, he and an attorney for the county spoke with a probation officer who deals with sexual offenders and predators to get a better understanding of the situation. The officer told them that he knew of only three landlords that rent to sexual offenders and predators in the county, and two would be affected under the new restrictions, Dempsey said.

“Dempsey said it &quot;would effectively wipe out&quot; the availability of housing on the west side of the county by eliminating the ability of those landlords to rent to sexual offenders and predators.”

So now there will be only ONE potential landlord who will rent to a person on the registry. How is this legal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58974">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/local/volusia/2023/10/18/volusia-county-sexual-predators-could-get-tougher-distance-requirement/71170587007/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/local/volusia/2023/10/18/volusia-county-sexual-predators-could-get-tougher-distance-requirement/71170587007/</a></p>
<p>“Dempsey raised concerns about creating a more dangerous situation with the ordinance by causing sex offenders and predators to become homeless”</p>
<p>Dempsey said that before the meeting, he and an attorney for the county spoke with a probation officer who deals with sexual offenders and predators to get a better understanding of the situation. The officer told them that he knew of only three landlords that rent to sexual offenders and predators in the county, and two would be affected under the new restrictions, Dempsey said.</p>
<p>“Dempsey said it &#8220;would effectively wipe out&#8221; the availability of housing on the west side of the county by eliminating the ability of those landlords to rent to sexual offenders and predators.”</p>
<p>So now there will be only ONE potential landlord who will rent to a person on the registry. How is this legal.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58974</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2023 16:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58972&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

***Update on last night&#039;s Volusia county ordinance hearing.

#1 The proposal to not allow anyone over 18 into parks and playgrounds without having a child was tossed out as their Attorney said that would be challenged in court.

#2 The 1000 feet rule being expanded to 1500 was shelved for another time as someone spoke up stating that would send everyone to the woods where they couldn&#039;t be tracked. They will re-evaluate that in a future meeting.

My opinion, I think groups like FAC and lawyers challenging and suing cities, counties and states over these ordinances is starting to make a difference. Keep up the good work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58972">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>***Update on last night&#8217;s Volusia county ordinance hearing.</p>
<p>#1 The proposal to not allow anyone over 18 into parks and playgrounds without having a child was tossed out as their Attorney said that would be challenged in court.</p>
<p>#2 The 1000 feet rule being expanded to 1500 was shelved for another time as someone spoke up stating that would send everyone to the woods where they couldn&#8217;t be tracked. They will re-evaluate that in a future meeting.</p>
<p>My opinion, I think groups like FAC and lawyers challenging and suing cities, counties and states over these ordinances is starting to make a difference. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		By: Al		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58973</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2023 02:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If Florida could just adopt the SB 2158  bill (See description above) being proposed in Illinois, what a difference that would make for so many here if it passed.  Hey, I can dream.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Florida could just adopt the SB 2158  bill (See description above) being proposed in Illinois, what a difference that would make for so many here if it passed.  Hey, I can dream.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58972</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2023 22:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well here we go again. Volusia county changing their distance from 1000 feet to 1500 and also all parks in the county will now ban anyone over 18 going to parks unless they are escorting their own child, (NOT just sex offenders on this one.)
I saw this on Channel nine news in central florida.

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2023/10/17/volusia-commissioner-pushes-for-new-rules-to-crack-down-on-sex-offenders/#:~:text=In%20establishing%20a%20sex%20offender%20and%20predator%20section%2C,law%20currently%20sets%20that%20figure%20at%201%2C000%20feet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well here we go again. Volusia county changing their distance from 1000 feet to 1500 and also all parks in the county will now ban anyone over 18 going to parks unless they are escorting their own child, (NOT just sex offenders on this one.)<br />
I saw this on Channel nine news in central florida.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2023/10/17/volusia-commissioner-pushes-for-new-rules-to-crack-down-on-sex-offenders/#:~:text=In%20establishing%20a%20sex%20offender%20and%20predator%20section%2C,law%20currently%20sets%20that%20figure%20at%201%2C000%20feet" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2023/10/17/volusia-commissioner-pushes-for-new-rules-to-crack-down-on-sex-offenders/#:~:text=In%20establishing%20a%20sex%20offender%20and%20predator%20section%2C,law%20currently%20sets%20that%20figure%20at%201%2C000%20feet</a>.</p>
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		By: RM		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58971</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2023 19:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Illinois has one of the most hideous of all provisions of any sex offender registry in the nation. Any person with an out-of-state conviction who is required to register in Illinois due to working there, being a student there, or spending 3 or more days there is deemed to be a &quot;sexual predator.&quot; This provision was declared unconstitutional for a single registrant by a federal court judge in Chicago but the judge did not strike the provision generally as it was an &quot;as applied&quot; challenge and there might have been a consent decree as well for the individual in question. A similar provision in Pennsylvania was struck down by the PA Supreme Court several years ago. Illinois requires those with out-of-state convictions that require registration in another state to register in Illinois, even if the underlying offense is not a crime there.

So there is just this extremely bizarre situation where if I were to go to Illinois for three days, I would be declared a sexual predator under their laws even though what I did was not a crime there because the age of consent is 17 and I was convicted in Florida of F.S. 794.05(1) as a result of consensual activity with a 17-year old in 1997, when I was 25 years old (literally more than half my life ago). And under the laws of Florida, upon returning home I could be declared a sexual predator here because Florida law says that a registrant declared a sexual predator under the laws of another state is a sexual predator in Florida. I might end up winning in court but it would require litigation and expense. It&#039;s just Kafkaeseque. I checked and this provision is not being changed in the proposed bill.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illinois has one of the most hideous of all provisions of any sex offender registry in the nation. Any person with an out-of-state conviction who is required to register in Illinois due to working there, being a student there, or spending 3 or more days there is deemed to be a &#8220;sexual predator.&#8221; This provision was declared unconstitutional for a single registrant by a federal court judge in Chicago but the judge did not strike the provision generally as it was an &#8220;as applied&#8221; challenge and there might have been a consent decree as well for the individual in question. A similar provision in Pennsylvania was struck down by the PA Supreme Court several years ago. Illinois requires those with out-of-state convictions that require registration in another state to register in Illinois, even if the underlying offense is not a crime there.</p>
<p>So there is just this extremely bizarre situation where if I were to go to Illinois for three days, I would be declared a sexual predator under their laws even though what I did was not a crime there because the age of consent is 17 and I was convicted in Florida of F.S. 794.05(1) as a result of consensual activity with a 17-year old in 1997, when I was 25 years old (literally more than half my life ago). And under the laws of Florida, upon returning home I could be declared a sexual predator here because Florida law says that a registrant declared a sexual predator under the laws of another state is a sexual predator in Florida. I might end up winning in court but it would require litigation and expense. It&#8217;s just Kafkaeseque. I checked and this provision is not being changed in the proposed bill.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58970</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2023 19:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58969&quot;&gt;Education&lt;/a&gt;.

I was born in Illinois on a military base. Do not remember any of it as we moved so much from base to base. I do remember the base in San Diego though. Dad was sent off to Vietnam.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58969">Education</a>.</p>
<p>I was born in Illinois on a military base. Do not remember any of it as we moved so much from base to base. I do remember the base in San Diego though. Dad was sent off to Vietnam.</p>
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		By: Education		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58969</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Education]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2023 17:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/illinoisans-working-to-make-changes-in-their-registries/comment-page-1/#comment-58968&quot;&gt;Itty1979&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you.]]></description>
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<p>Thank you.</p>
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		By: Itty1979		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Itty1979]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2023 16:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t know how much it will help, but called the senator for illinois, to ask him to vote yes on reducing the restrictions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know how much it will help, but called the senator for illinois, to ask him to vote yes on reducing the restrictions.</p>
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