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		By: Shlepprock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shlepprock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2022 01:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Progress requires compromise, victory requires sacrifice. We must stand strong, defiant, and braver than we have ever imagined!!!! Nothing in this country that was righteous and just ever happen by words. Four students had to day in Kent State before someone realized the Viet Nam War was a government motivated manipulation!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Progress requires compromise, victory requires sacrifice. We must stand strong, defiant, and braver than we have ever imagined!!!! Nothing in this country that was righteous and just ever happen by words. Four students had to day in Kent State before someone realized the Viet Nam War was a government motivated manipulation!!!!</p>
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		By: Tired Of The Endless Probation		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-3/#comment-49361</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tired Of The Endless Probation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2022 14:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Its very wrong. I already took a “Deal” for something I didnt do served time to avoid the Probation. In my case no Restitution No SO probation! No Regular Probation! Early release for so called good behavior and yet rhese ever changing Restrictions  are like a lifetime Probation in regards to living and Travel. They continue to exceed anything that I was subject or told about in 2010 its keeps getting worse. When will it be over?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its very wrong. I already took a “Deal” for something I didnt do served time to avoid the Probation. In my case no Restitution No SO probation! No Regular Probation! Early release for so called good behavior and yet rhese ever changing Restrictions  are like a lifetime Probation in regards to living and Travel. They continue to exceed anything that I was subject or told about in 2010 its keeps getting worse. When will it be over?</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-3/#comment-49360</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2022 12:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-3/#comment-49358&quot;&gt;Bizzaro Land when Yellow is black&lt;/a&gt;.

There is a song that describes this situation the best

&quot;Blinded by the light&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-3/#comment-49358">Bizzaro Land when Yellow is black</a>.</p>
<p>There is a song that describes this situation the best</p>
<p>&#8220;Blinded by the light&#8221;</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-1/#comment-49359</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2022 12:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-1/#comment-49356&quot;&gt;Just asking&lt;/a&gt;.

TO: Just asking

Because the gods(they think they are) in the courts are like our parents when we were kids. We would ask our parents if we could go down and play at Jimmy&#039;s house and they would say no. When we asked why, the answer was not an answer at all. They would say &quot;Because I SAID so!&quot;

This is the same mentality with Some judges, the power goes to their head and it simply just does not matter if it is punishment, if they rule it is not, then good luck getting that reversed. If the supreme court State or Federal wants to say an apple is not a fruit but a vegetable, the dictionary will have to be updated.

I do not want to put words in anyone&#039;s mouth, but they know it is punishment. In fact by telling us it is NOT punishment, is punishment in and of itself. It means many of us will be on the registry for life even if there was no registry when we were arrested or sentenced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-1/#comment-49356">Just asking</a>.</p>
<p>TO: Just asking</p>
<p>Because the gods(they think they are) in the courts are like our parents when we were kids. We would ask our parents if we could go down and play at Jimmy&#8217;s house and they would say no. When we asked why, the answer was not an answer at all. They would say &#8220;Because I SAID so!&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the same mentality with Some judges, the power goes to their head and it simply just does not matter if it is punishment, if they rule it is not, then good luck getting that reversed. If the supreme court State or Federal wants to say an apple is not a fruit but a vegetable, the dictionary will have to be updated.</p>
<p>I do not want to put words in anyone&#8217;s mouth, but they know it is punishment. In fact by telling us it is NOT punishment, is punishment in and of itself. It means many of us will be on the registry for life even if there was no registry when we were arrested or sentenced.</p>
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		By: Bizzaro Land when Yellow is black		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-3/#comment-49358</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bizzaro Land when Yellow is black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2022 12:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Im sure some Bizzare legal explanation exists! Can any legal experts on this forum provide some insight so us lay people can understand how and why the courts dont see any of thos as Punitive? What happened to if it walks like a duck acts like a duck its a duck! . Open and obvious: &quot;both the condition and the risk are apparent to and would be recognized by a reasonable man . . . exercising ordinary perception, intelligence, and judgment.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sure some Bizzare legal explanation exists! Can any legal experts on this forum provide some insight so us lay people can understand how and why the courts dont see any of thos as Punitive? What happened to if it walks like a duck acts like a duck its a duck! . Open and obvious: &#8220;both the condition and the risk are apparent to and would be recognized by a reasonable man . . . exercising ordinary perception, intelligence, and judgment.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Just asking		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Just asking]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2022 04:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-1/#comment-49340&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

The justice department should be held liable for this.they are implementing a non primitive non punishment piece of legislation that  it&#039;s not punishment by the legislators on admission .they said it was not intended to be punishment but the DOJ has made it <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f914.png" alt="🤔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> umm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-1/#comment-49340">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>The justice department should be held liable for this.they are implementing a non primitive non punishment piece of legislation that  it&#8217;s not punishment by the legislators on admission .they said it was not intended to be punishment but the DOJ has made it 🤔 umm</p>
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		By: Just asking		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Just asking]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2022 03:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-1/#comment-49349&quot;&gt;johandy&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree if it&#039;s non primitive in nature and not punishment why is it in the criminal division and treated as a crime if the legislators intent for the registry not to be primitive or punishment then why enforce it in the criminal court and call it not punishment? Criminal court are for punishing someone for a criminal act period. If the registry is so benign and not causing any problems as they believe then why not let a different department handle this non primitive piece of legislation that is not punishment]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-1/#comment-49349">johandy</a>.</p>
<p>I agree if it&#8217;s non primitive in nature and not punishment why is it in the criminal division and treated as a crime if the legislators intent for the registry not to be primitive or punishment then why enforce it in the criminal court and call it not punishment? Criminal court are for punishing someone for a criminal act period. If the registry is so benign and not causing any problems as they believe then why not let a different department handle this non primitive piece of legislation that is not punishment</p>
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		By: Capt Charles 'Bob' Munsey Jr. USN Ret		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Capt Charles 'Bob' Munsey Jr. USN Ret]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2022 11:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is not surprising to see this &#039;legal gang&#039; exercise opinion to come to a legal conclusion rather than the Constitution.  Why do you think politicians are so concerned with who is on the court?  It is opinion that wins the day...not truth or facts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not surprising to see this &#8216;legal gang&#8217; exercise opinion to come to a legal conclusion rather than the Constitution.  Why do you think politicians are so concerned with who is on the court?  It is opinion that wins the day&#8230;not truth or facts.</p>
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		By: Ed C		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2022 04:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-2/#comment-49342&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

In theory, it could help when people protest outside a registrant&#039;s home.  In practice, it probably will not.  The Florida website says:

&quot;Once this law takes effect, law enforcement officers will provide a warning to any person picketing or protesting outside of a dwelling and will make arrests for residential picketing only if the person does not peaceably disperse after the warning. Residential picketing will be punishable as a second-degree misdemeanor.&quot;

What are the chances of any Florida sheriff dispatching deputies when a registrant complains of protesters?  No warning given by police means that no violation occurred.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-2/#comment-49342">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>In theory, it could help when people protest outside a registrant&#8217;s home.  In practice, it probably will not.  The Florida website says:</p>
<p>&#8220;Once this law takes effect, law enforcement officers will provide a warning to any person picketing or protesting outside of a dwelling and will make arrests for residential picketing only if the person does not peaceably disperse after the warning. Residential picketing will be punishable as a second-degree misdemeanor.&#8221;</p>
<p>What are the chances of any Florida sheriff dispatching deputies when a registrant complains of protesters?  No warning given by police means that no violation occurred.</p>
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		By: Tired Of Double Standards		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tired Of Double Standards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2022 18:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-2/#comment-49350&quot;&gt;Disgusted in Michigan&lt;/a&gt;.

Again how on earth is it not a test if something is Punitive it causes a person to be Imprisoned? I can see a fine  but Jail and prison are both Punitive recourse in any common sense . It should be the golden rule test]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/in-out-of-state-registration-requirement-does-not-violate-ex-post-facto/comment-page-2/#comment-49350">Disgusted in Michigan</a>.</p>
<p>Again how on earth is it not a test if something is Punitive it causes a person to be Imprisoned? I can see a fine  but Jail and prison are both Punitive recourse in any common sense . It should be the golden rule test</p>
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