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	Comments on: Is the government of Florida no longer held accountable to the citizens of our state?	</title>
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		By: Tim P.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim P.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2023 06:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-2/#comment-56529&quot;&gt;Maestro&lt;/a&gt;.

Just do a simple google search. There&#039;s legit articles all over the place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-2/#comment-56529">Maestro</a>.</p>
<p>Just do a simple google search. There&#8217;s legit articles all over the place.</p>
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		By: TS		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-2/#comment-56537</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2023 15:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-2/#comment-56536&quot;&gt;TS&lt;/a&gt;.

I would also say there is truly no national election you can be blocked from participating in.  All elections are local to the state level or lower.  The electors within the electoral college (EC) for P &#038; VP are supposed to represent the state as the state decides (i.e., wholly or split) with their delegate votes in a national position&#039;s contest when all state&#039;s votes are cobbled together.  Therefore, as we have seen in our nation&#039;s history, there can be a popular vote winner and an EC winner.  If it was a truly national election, the popular vote winner would win all the time, which they don&#039;t and is why we have a EC (which debating the merit of is another topic for another forum).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-2/#comment-56536">TS</a>.</p>
<p>I would also say there is truly no national election you can be blocked from participating in.  All elections are local to the state level or lower.  The electors within the electoral college (EC) for P &amp; VP are supposed to represent the state as the state decides (i.e., wholly or split) with their delegate votes in a national position&#8217;s contest when all state&#8217;s votes are cobbled together.  Therefore, as we have seen in our nation&#8217;s history, there can be a popular vote winner and an EC winner.  If it was a truly national election, the popular vote winner would win all the time, which they don&#8217;t and is why we have a EC (which debating the merit of is another topic for another forum).</p>
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		By: TS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2023 15:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-2/#comment-56526&quot;&gt;Jerry&lt;/a&gt;.

@Jerry

Read the entire Richardson v Ramirez page to understand more, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richardson_v._Ramirez,; However, I am going to hazard a guess that they would put a sex crime under the &quot;other or infamous crimes&quot; heading (see down the page) to give justification for the disenfranchisement given not all are felonies.  I don&#039;t think that is right, but even prior to 1868 when the 14th Amendment, section 2, was adopted, blocking voters was common in this country as a punishment.

While being punished for a sex crime justifies disenfranchising, being on the registry is not supposed to justify disenfranchisement given the registry is not punishment as the high court opined.   It would seem to me once the actual crime punishment is over, so should the disenfranchisement regardless of the registry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-2/#comment-56526">Jerry</a>.</p>
<p>@Jerry</p>
<p>Read the entire Richardson v Ramirez page to understand more, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richardson_v._Ramirez" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richardson_v._Ramirez</a>,; However, I am going to hazard a guess that they would put a sex crime under the &#8220;other or infamous crimes&#8221; heading (see down the page) to give justification for the disenfranchisement given not all are felonies.  I don&#8217;t think that is right, but even prior to 1868 when the 14th Amendment, section 2, was adopted, blocking voters was common in this country as a punishment.</p>
<p>While being punished for a sex crime justifies disenfranchising, being on the registry is not supposed to justify disenfranchisement given the registry is not punishment as the high court opined.   It would seem to me once the actual crime punishment is over, so should the disenfranchisement regardless of the registry.</p>
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		By: Saddles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saddles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2023 09:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey whats happening to all these comments. Seems one is on the subject of rights to vote now. Whether one has the right or not or whether one votes or not or is independent that should not be the question.
If one votes than good. Seems there is other fish to fry even about getting much of this registry changed.
Many of you all talk about this Smith vs Doe and don&#039;t seem to look at this deception or entrapment or the Frazier vs Cupp in 1969 when the Supreme ruled that they can use deception.  Now who&#039;s deceiving who in this &quot; Because we can&quot;
Seems government is abusing the true Authority. I know is makes everyone &quot;proud&quot; when they come up with all the answers but the truth is deception is deception and a false balance is no good. Seems governments have their faults. So don&#039;t jump on F.A.C.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey whats happening to all these comments. Seems one is on the subject of rights to vote now. Whether one has the right or not or whether one votes or not or is independent that should not be the question.<br />
If one votes than good. Seems there is other fish to fry even about getting much of this registry changed.<br />
Many of you all talk about this Smith vs Doe and don&#8217;t seem to look at this deception or entrapment or the Frazier vs Cupp in 1969 when the Supreme ruled that they can use deception.  Now who&#8217;s deceiving who in this &#8221; Because we can&#8221;<br />
Seems government is abusing the true Authority. I know is makes everyone &#8220;proud&#8221; when they come up with all the answers but the truth is deception is deception and a false balance is no good. Seems governments have their faults. So don&#8217;t jump on F.A.C.</p>
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		By: FAC Moderator #1		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FAC Moderator #1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2023 19:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-2/#comment-56523&quot;&gt;Tim P.&lt;/a&gt;.

We have more than one moderator. I moderated your comment below, and assume that&#039;s what you&#039;re referring to.

When I see divisive comments, I look for ways to retain the message without the divisiveness. Identifying the party of the governor added no value to the discussion. It could alienate or irritate others, detracting from what could be a productive, civil discussion.

Not all moderators will see it the same way, and even in my own moderation there is a lot of gray area which can be draining to consider in depth for every single comment. Sometimes we just have to make snap judgement and move on. I am often in a rush because there&#039;s more to be done than we have the help for. It&#039;s not possible for moderation to be perfectly consistent under these circumstances.

FAC is trying to provide many services (legislative, lawsuits, website, outreach, meet and greets, membership and a sense of community, and on and on), free of charge and powered by others giving up their time to make your life better. This is done for our entire community, including you, as well as for the public good, for the advancement of issues that should matter to all of us.

My hope is that by taking the time to address your concern, you will feel respected, see that moderation is not personal, and come to understand that perfection is a big ask from the moderation team and FAC, which is powered purely by volunteers and donations. I hope you and anyone else who feels censored will remind themselves, and others, of the reality that includes everything I&#039;ve mentioned here. I hope everyone reading this will continue to participate and do something to move our shared causes forward.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-2/#comment-56523">Tim P.</a>.</p>
<p>We have more than one moderator. I moderated your comment below, and assume that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re referring to.</p>
<p>When I see divisive comments, I look for ways to retain the message without the divisiveness. Identifying the party of the governor added no value to the discussion. It could alienate or irritate others, detracting from what could be a productive, civil discussion.</p>
<p>Not all moderators will see it the same way, and even in my own moderation there is a lot of gray area which can be draining to consider in depth for every single comment. Sometimes we just have to make snap judgement and move on. I am often in a rush because there&#8217;s more to be done than we have the help for. It&#8217;s not possible for moderation to be perfectly consistent under these circumstances.</p>
<p>FAC is trying to provide many services (legislative, lawsuits, website, outreach, meet and greets, membership and a sense of community, and on and on), free of charge and powered by others giving up their time to make your life better. This is done for our entire community, including you, as well as for the public good, for the advancement of issues that should matter to all of us.</p>
<p>My hope is that by taking the time to address your concern, you will feel respected, see that moderation is not personal, and come to understand that perfection is a big ask from the moderation team and FAC, which is powered purely by volunteers and donations. I hope you and anyone else who feels censored will remind themselves, and others, of the reality that includes everything I&#8217;ve mentioned here. I hope everyone reading this will continue to participate and do something to move our shared causes forward.</p>
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		By: 🙌		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-2/#comment-56533</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[🙌]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2023 19:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-2/#comment-56523&quot;&gt;Tim P.&lt;/a&gt;.

Looks like you&#039;re not being silenced, after all.

We will harm our own movement by dividing ourselves along political party lines. What good does that do? As a movement, we would do far better to stay united instead of bickering over political parties.

Neither party has done a particularly good job of helping to right the wrong that is the registry. If either party stood up against this injustice, it would be clear as day. Nobody is.

Our best approach to this fight is that the registry is not a partisan issue and has so many drawbacks that it should be naturally opposed by both parties. It&#039;s unconstitutional (violates just about every enumerated right), reinforces the prison-industrial complex, increases gov&#039;t spending, decreases public safety, harms children and families, necessitates bigger gov&#039;t with greater authority over &quot;free&quot; citizens than any other scheme, and so on. Know your audience, and approach them with the issues that appeal most to their views.

Read the comment policy, which is clear as day above the box I&#039;m typing into right now. Maybe inflammatory partisan comments should be allowed. What does this site become in terms of discourse over our issues becomes consumed by partisan bickering?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-2/#comment-56523">Tim P.</a>.</p>
<p>Looks like you&#8217;re not being silenced, after all.</p>
<p>We will harm our own movement by dividing ourselves along political party lines. What good does that do? As a movement, we would do far better to stay united instead of bickering over political parties.</p>
<p>Neither party has done a particularly good job of helping to right the wrong that is the registry. If either party stood up against this injustice, it would be clear as day. Nobody is.</p>
<p>Our best approach to this fight is that the registry is not a partisan issue and has so many drawbacks that it should be naturally opposed by both parties. It&#8217;s unconstitutional (violates just about every enumerated right), reinforces the prison-industrial complex, increases gov&#8217;t spending, decreases public safety, harms children and families, necessitates bigger gov&#8217;t with greater authority over &#8220;free&#8221; citizens than any other scheme, and so on. Know your audience, and approach them with the issues that appeal most to their views.</p>
<p>Read the comment policy, which is clear as day above the box I&#8217;m typing into right now. Maybe inflammatory partisan comments should be allowed. What does this site become in terms of discourse over our issues becomes consumed by partisan bickering?</p>
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		By: G		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2023 16:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-1/#comment-56531&quot;&gt;G&lt;/a&gt;.

And so all his vote fraud focus is just to get votes. There is no major issue with vote irregularities. It is a waste of our tax dollars to focus on this non-issue when there are so many other pressing issues in our state.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-1/#comment-56531">G</a>.</p>
<p>And so all his vote fraud focus is just to get votes. There is no major issue with vote irregularities. It is a waste of our tax dollars to focus on this non-issue when there are so many other pressing issues in our state.</p>
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		By: G		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2023 16:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-1/#comment-56530&quot;&gt;Maestro&lt;/a&gt;.

One man alone can not pass legislation. I blame him and all the legislators that are fighting against restoring felon rights even though the people of Florida voted for it, and for being selective on who they go after on voting violations. Further, If you follow politics it is clear he has the ambition to run for President, and the belief that the vote was stolen is high among his voters, regardless that it has been proven to not be true.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-1/#comment-56530">Maestro</a>.</p>
<p>One man alone can not pass legislation. I blame him and all the legislators that are fighting against restoring felon rights even though the people of Florida voted for it, and for being selective on who they go after on voting violations. Further, If you follow politics it is clear he has the ambition to run for President, and the belief that the vote was stolen is high among his voters, regardless that it has been proven to not be true.</p>
<p>[moderated]</p>
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		By: Maestro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maestro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2023 15:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-1/#comment-56518&quot;&gt;Tereto&lt;/a&gt;.

Has DeSantis ALWAYS been the governor of FL? No. Has FL ALWAYS been a state of lifetime registration and no felons allowed to vote? Yes. So why is everyone putting the full bulk of the blame on DeSantis? Just curious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-1/#comment-56518">Tereto</a>.</p>
<p>Has DeSantis ALWAYS been the governor of FL? No. Has FL ALWAYS been a state of lifetime registration and no felons allowed to vote? Yes. So why is everyone putting the full bulk of the blame on DeSantis? Just curious.</p>
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		By: Maestro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maestro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2023 15:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-2/#comment-56521&quot;&gt;Mr. D.A. DORSETT&lt;/a&gt;.

There’s plenty of wealthy people with crimes on their record. [moderated].]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/is-the-government-of-florida-no-longer-held-accountable-to-the-citizens-of-our-state/comment-page-2/#comment-56521">Mr. D.A. DORSETT</a>.</p>
<p>There’s plenty of wealthy people with crimes on their record. [moderated].</p>
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