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	Comments on: Letter, 5/26: Abolish sex offender registry	</title>
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	<description>Reforming Florida’s Sex Offender Registry Laws</description>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33387</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2020 21:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33385&quot;&gt;Tyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Were we to register only repeat offenders, we would effectively be removing at least half a million people from these registries, including  tens of thousands in Florida alone.

But even with repeat offenders, it depends.  Consider the case of someone who committed crimes at age 12 (yes, juveniles must register in Florida) and 19, then received court-mandated treatment, and is now 41,  has a wife and children depending on him, and has remained crime-free for 22 years.  In a few states, that person could be be removed from the registry by demonstrating to the court that he is no longer a risk to the community (or automatically for remaining crime free).  But Florida law does not allow it.  So he and his family are continually being held to account for what he last did at 19, and that’s a problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33385">Tyler</a>.</p>
<p>Were we to register only repeat offenders, we would effectively be removing at least half a million people from these registries, including  tens of thousands in Florida alone.</p>
<p>But even with repeat offenders, it depends.  Consider the case of someone who committed crimes at age 12 (yes, juveniles must register in Florida) and 19, then received court-mandated treatment, and is now 41,  has a wife and children depending on him, and has remained crime-free for 22 years.  In a few states, that person could be be removed from the registry by demonstrating to the court that he is no longer a risk to the community (or automatically for remaining crime free).  But Florida law does not allow it.  So he and his family are continually being held to account for what he last did at 19, and that’s a problem.</p>
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		By: Will Allen		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33386</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will Allen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2020 19:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33385&quot;&gt;Tyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Of course you are wrong. And they aren&#039;t my shoes anyway. It is reality.

Let&#039;s say that Registries are not needed, not useful, counterproductive (!!!), harm the families that are listed on them, harm America, and harm everyone in America and put them in more danger. If that were true, should Registries exist?

Personally, I think the answer is obvious. All the things I said are reality and I can easily prove them. It truly seems like quite a no-brainer to me. Registries are very idiotic social policy. But of course we all know that Americans are not know for being all that bright or thinking with their brains instead of their emotions. They have opinions on &lt;em&gt;everything&lt;/em&gt;, even things that they know nothing about and are too lazy to learn. It&#039;s ridiculous.

I raised a lot of children. Know what I never needed? A very, very incomplete list from big government of bad guys who had done something wrong years and decades ago. I never needed big government to help me raise my children. I didn&#039;t care if any adults in their life were listed on a big government Hit List or not, I wasn&#039;t letting any of them have sex with my children. I didn&#039;t let the &quot;non-molesters&quot; get any closer than the &quot;molesters&quot;. That&#039;s actually the only way to actually protect anyone.

And obviously, we can see that the Sex Offense Registries aren&#039;t really about public safety, protecting children, or any of the rest of the lies. If they were, piles of other Registries would&#039;ve been created actual decades ago. Registries are for harassment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33385">Tyler</a>.</p>
<p>Of course you are wrong. And they aren&#8217;t my shoes anyway. It is reality.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say that Registries are not needed, not useful, counterproductive (!!!), harm the families that are listed on them, harm America, and harm everyone in America and put them in more danger. If that were true, should Registries exist?</p>
<p>Personally, I think the answer is obvious. All the things I said are reality and I can easily prove them. It truly seems like quite a no-brainer to me. Registries are very idiotic social policy. But of course we all know that Americans are not know for being all that bright or thinking with their brains instead of their emotions. They have opinions on <em>everything</em>, even things that they know nothing about and are too lazy to learn. It&#8217;s ridiculous.</p>
<p>I raised a lot of children. Know what I never needed? A very, very incomplete list from big government of bad guys who had done something wrong years and decades ago. I never needed big government to help me raise my children. I didn&#8217;t care if any adults in their life were listed on a big government Hit List or not, I wasn&#8217;t letting any of them have sex with my children. I didn&#8217;t let the &#8220;non-molesters&#8221; get any closer than the &#8220;molesters&#8221;. That&#8217;s actually the only way to actually protect anyone.</p>
<p>And obviously, we can see that the Sex Offense Registries aren&#8217;t really about public safety, protecting children, or any of the rest of the lies. If they were, piles of other Registries would&#8217;ve been created actual decades ago. Registries are for harassment.</p>
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		By: Tyler		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33385</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2020 17:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33380&quot;&gt;Will Allen&lt;/a&gt;.

Let me try to get myself in your shoes here. I have been jumped twice in my life. I am 35 and I still remember those incidents with great anger and it turned me anti gun to pro carry.

If someone molested a minor, and not one of those &quot;I was in High School and she was 16&quot; instances, I say it is well deserved to live with what you did. If you are a repeat offender, I say you should be registered.

Am I wrong here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33380">Will Allen</a>.</p>
<p>Let me try to get myself in your shoes here. I have been jumped twice in my life. I am 35 and I still remember those incidents with great anger and it turned me anti gun to pro carry.</p>
<p>If someone molested a minor, and not one of those &#8220;I was in High School and she was 16&#8221; instances, I say it is well deserved to live with what you did. If you are a repeat offender, I say you should be registered.</p>
<p>Am I wrong here?</p>
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		By: Tyler		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33384</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2020 17:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33379&quot;&gt;Jacob&lt;/a&gt;.

Fair response. I see your point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33379">Jacob</a>.</p>
<p>Fair response. I see your point.</p>
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		By: Tyler		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33383</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2020 17:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33381&quot;&gt;Sentinel&lt;/a&gt;.

You had my attention until you assumed I was some wholesale supporter of the government. You did so well up until that point. Great examples but it appears you have written me off so the dialogue ceases.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33381">Sentinel</a>.</p>
<p>You had my attention until you assumed I was some wholesale supporter of the government. You did so well up until that point. Great examples but it appears you have written me off so the dialogue ceases.</p>
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		By: Sc		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33382</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2020 17:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33378&quot;&gt;Tyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Applying similar logic here, why not do the same to any other crime? Home invasion, tax evasion, DUI, petty theft, strongarm robbery, spousal abuse, etc, etc, etc...

Going one step further, how long is too long? So we focus solely on a person&#039;s negative actions and that defines then for the rest of their life. What about those who consistently commit crimes?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33378">Tyler</a>.</p>
<p>Applying similar logic here, why not do the same to any other crime? Home invasion, tax evasion, DUI, petty theft, strongarm robbery, spousal abuse, etc, etc, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Going one step further, how long is too long? So we focus solely on a person&#8217;s negative actions and that defines then for the rest of their life. What about those who consistently commit crimes?</p>
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		By: Sentinel		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33381</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sentinel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2020 07:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33378&quot;&gt;Tyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Fair question, let me give you something to think about. When a young man who just turned 18 yoa and is still in the 12th grade, who is dating his 16 yoa girlfriend, gets arrested and has his entire life ruined by being placed on the registry when both he and his girlfriend decide to have consensual sex, who is the victim here? When a man has sex with a hooker whom he believes to be an adult but is really 17 yoa, gets arrested and has his entire life ruined by being placed on the registry even though the hooker admits in open court she lied about her age because she knows she looks older and can get away with it, who is the victim here?  When a man looks at ugly pictures on the internet, a place where ugly pictures of all kinds exist, but he never touches anyone, gets arrested and has his entire life ruined by being placed on the registry, who is the victim here? When a man pays his debt to society but his family, his wife, his children are harassed, threated, and even murdered because he is on the registry, who is the victim here?

We can give many more examples of cases that I&#039;m sure you did not consider when you were making your assumptions about us. Like most people, you believe what the government tells you to believe no questions asked and you presume everyone on the registry has committed the same type of unspeakable crime, nothing could be further from the truth. Personally, I do not believe that anything that I say will change your mind as you are the same type of person we encounter all the time, just your name is different. What will change your mind is when someone you care about, a family member, a close friend, someone you respected, gets arrested, is convicted, and placed on the registry where they get to have their lives as well as their families lives ruined forever, that is when you will begin to question the government and the law.

One last thing, a &quot;victim&quot; of anything at some point has to move on and get past the incident that caused them pain. Failure to do so remands them to &quot;victimhood&quot; forever and that is no way to live. But, at least they have that option to move on with their lives and not be a &quot;victim&quot; in the years that they have ahead of them, people on the registry do not have that option. The registry will always try to strip away the life a person was meant to live regardless of the crime, the punishment, or the restitution to society, so who is the victim here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33378">Tyler</a>.</p>
<p>Fair question, let me give you something to think about. When a young man who just turned 18 yoa and is still in the 12th grade, who is dating his 16 yoa girlfriend, gets arrested and has his entire life ruined by being placed on the registry when both he and his girlfriend decide to have consensual sex, who is the victim here? When a man has sex with a hooker whom he believes to be an adult but is really 17 yoa, gets arrested and has his entire life ruined by being placed on the registry even though the hooker admits in open court she lied about her age because she knows she looks older and can get away with it, who is the victim here?  When a man looks at ugly pictures on the internet, a place where ugly pictures of all kinds exist, but he never touches anyone, gets arrested and has his entire life ruined by being placed on the registry, who is the victim here? When a man pays his debt to society but his family, his wife, his children are harassed, threated, and even murdered because he is on the registry, who is the victim here?</p>
<p>We can give many more examples of cases that I&#8217;m sure you did not consider when you were making your assumptions about us. Like most people, you believe what the government tells you to believe no questions asked and you presume everyone on the registry has committed the same type of unspeakable crime, nothing could be further from the truth. Personally, I do not believe that anything that I say will change your mind as you are the same type of person we encounter all the time, just your name is different. What will change your mind is when someone you care about, a family member, a close friend, someone you respected, gets arrested, is convicted, and placed on the registry where they get to have their lives as well as their families lives ruined forever, that is when you will begin to question the government and the law.</p>
<p>One last thing, a &#8220;victim&#8221; of anything at some point has to move on and get past the incident that caused them pain. Failure to do so remands them to &#8220;victimhood&#8221; forever and that is no way to live. But, at least they have that option to move on with their lives and not be a &#8220;victim&#8221; in the years that they have ahead of them, people on the registry do not have that option. The registry will always try to strip away the life a person was meant to live regardless of the crime, the punishment, or the restitution to society, so who is the victim here?</p>
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		By: Will Allen		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33380</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will Allen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2020 05:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33378&quot;&gt;Tyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, first off, there are sex crimes that have no victim.

Second, I&#039;ve been a victim of crimes way too many times. I&#039;m not living with anything for the rest of my life. Not even being a victim of sex crimes many, many times. I&#039;m not a victim.

Third, do you really think most sex crimes harm a person for life? Patent nonsense. If a person harms another person to an extent X and then pays 100X in punishment, why should there be more punishment?

Fourth, your glorious big government Registries are not for punishment. Their intent is not to be something that a person has to suffer from. The ONLY legitimate reason that Registries can exist is to reduce future crimes. That is the only legitimate reason. Registries don&#039;t do that. Registries are invalid.

Lastly, if Sex Offense Registries are legitimate, then ALL the rest of the Registries are also. How is it even slightly conceivable that the big government lovers have so miserably failed to get the Gun Offender Registries created?! Where are the rest of the Registries? They don&#039;t exist because Registries are immoral stupidity and an act of war. As long as they exist, there cannot be peace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33378">Tyler</a>.</p>
<p>Well, first off, there are sex crimes that have no victim.</p>
<p>Second, I&#8217;ve been a victim of crimes way too many times. I&#8217;m not living with anything for the rest of my life. Not even being a victim of sex crimes many, many times. I&#8217;m not a victim.</p>
<p>Third, do you really think most sex crimes harm a person for life? Patent nonsense. If a person harms another person to an extent X and then pays 100X in punishment, why should there be more punishment?</p>
<p>Fourth, your glorious big government Registries are not for punishment. Their intent is not to be something that a person has to suffer from. The ONLY legitimate reason that Registries can exist is to reduce future crimes. That is the only legitimate reason. Registries don&#8217;t do that. Registries are invalid.</p>
<p>Lastly, if Sex Offense Registries are legitimate, then ALL the rest of the Registries are also. How is it even slightly conceivable that the big government lovers have so miserably failed to get the Gun Offender Registries created?! Where are the rest of the Registries? They don&#8217;t exist because Registries are immoral stupidity and an act of war. As long as they exist, there cannot be peace.</p>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33379</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2020 03:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33378&quot;&gt;Tyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Depends on the crime and how long the victim has to suffer, if there’s even a victim at all.

But that’s what judges are for.  The legislature should not be in the business of imposing life sentences on broad categories of former criminals.

I will say that your philosophy, “you should have to live with your crime for as long as your victim does,” is more honest than many of our lawmakers. Had they used the language you used, many ex post facto lawsuits would have been successful years ago.  But unlike you, legislators rely on the disproven nonsense that registration laws prevent sexual abuse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33378">Tyler</a>.</p>
<p>Depends on the crime and how long the victim has to suffer, if there’s even a victim at all.</p>
<p>But that’s what judges are for.  The legislature should not be in the business of imposing life sentences on broad categories of former criminals.</p>
<p>I will say that your philosophy, “you should have to live with your crime for as long as your victim does,” is more honest than many of our lawmakers. Had they used the language you used, many ex post facto lawsuits would have been successful years ago.  But unlike you, legislators rely on the disproven nonsense that registration laws prevent sexual abuse.</p>
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		By: Tyler		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/letter-526-abolish-sex-offender-registry/comment-page-2/#comment-33378</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2020 01:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You all seem so concerned with your own behinds. Does not a victim have to live with your actions for the rest of their lives? Why should your crime not have the same effect on you? Honest question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all seem so concerned with your own behinds. Does not a victim have to live with your actions for the rest of their lives? Why should your crime not have the same effect on you? Honest question.</p>
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