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	Comments on: Listen: Oral Arguments in 6th Circuit Sex Offender Arguments	</title>
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	<description>Reforming Florida’s Sex Offender Registry Laws</description>
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		By: Eugene V. Debs		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75312</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eugene V. Debs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2026 16:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75277&quot;&gt;tearfuleagle&lt;/a&gt;.

That would be the Clement’s case 
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/52983235/Clements_v_Secretary,_Department_of_Corrections_LEE

Schedule to be heard late December or early 2027 looks like]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75277">tearfuleagle</a>.</p>
<p>That would be the Clement’s case<br />
<a href="https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/52983235/Clements_v_Secretary,_Department_of_Corrections_LEE" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/52983235/Clements_v_Secretary,_Department_of_Corrections_LEE</a></p>
<p>Schedule to be heard late December or early 2027 looks like</p>
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		By: Quiet too long		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75299</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quiet too long]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2026 00:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Federal Draft  
Written by Quiet Too Long
07/22/2026

When the judge opened the door to the question of constitutionality, yet no party raised the punitive‑effects analysis, the DA attempted to justify the registry by invoking the federal military draft — a compulsory federal duty that has no doctrinal connection to a state‑level civil regulatory scheme. Because the DA introduced a federal obligation into a civil proceeding without challenge, the proper response would have been to redirect the court to the foundational constitutional inquiries the judge had implicitly raised: Your Honor, since you asked, then the only answer is a question, if you don’t mind. Is this system civil or criminal? Are the states united or sovereign? Is the scheme state or federal? These are the real questions that determine whether the registry, as applied, remains within constitutional bounds, and they directly expose the mismatch between the DA’s federal‑duty analogy and the civil framework the court was relying on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Federal Draft<br />
Written by Quiet Too Long<br />
07/22/2026</p>
<p>When the judge opened the door to the question of constitutionality, yet no party raised the punitive‑effects analysis, the DA attempted to justify the registry by invoking the federal military draft — a compulsory federal duty that has no doctrinal connection to a state‑level civil regulatory scheme. Because the DA introduced a federal obligation into a civil proceeding without challenge, the proper response would have been to redirect the court to the foundational constitutional inquiries the judge had implicitly raised: Your Honor, since you asked, then the only answer is a question, if you don’t mind. Is this system civil or criminal? Are the states united or sovereign? Is the scheme state or federal? These are the real questions that determine whether the registry, as applied, remains within constitutional bounds, and they directly expose the mismatch between the DA’s federal‑duty analogy and the civil framework the court was relying on.</p>
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		By: tearfuleagle		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75291</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tearfuleagle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2026 22:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75288&quot;&gt;FAC-3&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep, that is why, I always check my paperwork as I am walking out of the building before I get into me car.  It is our job to make sure our information is correct.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75288">FAC-3</a>.</p>
<p>Yep, that is why, I always check my paperwork as I am walking out of the building before I get into me car.  It is our job to make sure our information is correct.</p>
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		By: Ryan Anderson		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75289</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2026 22:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You cannot civilly sue a government entity or employee for mistakes made under FS 943.0435 because the law explicitly grants them statutory immunity from civil liability. This legal protection blocks lawsuits seeking financial damages, provided the officials acted in good faith while managing registry data. 

Key Reasons Why Civil Lawsuits Are Blocked

* Statutory Immunity: The statute explicitly shields the department, employees, and assisting agencies from civil lawsuits.
* Good Faith Presumption: The law legally presumes that personnel acted honestly and intentionally followed correct protocols.
* Clerical Error Protection: Simple technical mistakes or data entry errors do not violate or overcome this good faith presumption.
* Public Safety Intent: The immunity exists so fear of lawsuits does not delay or stop the state from publishing registry updates. 

 What It Takes to Overcome Immunity
To bypass this protection, a plaintiff must prove willful misconduct rather than a mistake. A lawsuit can generally only proceed if it is proven that an employee intentionally falsified information, acted with malicious intent, or knowingly violated a person&#039;s rights in bad faith.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot civilly sue a government entity or employee for mistakes made under FS 943.0435 because the law explicitly grants them statutory immunity from civil liability. This legal protection blocks lawsuits seeking financial damages, provided the officials acted in good faith while managing registry data. </p>
<p>Key Reasons Why Civil Lawsuits Are Blocked</p>
<p>* Statutory Immunity: The statute explicitly shields the department, employees, and assisting agencies from civil lawsuits.<br />
* Good Faith Presumption: The law legally presumes that personnel acted honestly and intentionally followed correct protocols.<br />
* Clerical Error Protection: Simple technical mistakes or data entry errors do not violate or overcome this good faith presumption.<br />
* Public Safety Intent: The immunity exists so fear of lawsuits does not delay or stop the state from publishing registry updates. </p>
<p> What It Takes to Overcome Immunity<br />
To bypass this protection, a plaintiff must prove willful misconduct rather than a mistake. A lawsuit can generally only proceed if it is proven that an employee intentionally falsified information, acted with malicious intent, or knowingly violated a person&#8217;s rights in bad faith.</p>
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		By: FAC-3		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75288</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FAC-3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75286&quot;&gt;Tereto&lt;/a&gt;.

Tereto,

Either you mistyped your comment or you are completely incorrect. It&#039;s just the opposite! The Registration Statute contemplates that a government agent might make a clerical error, and it indemnifies such person for their errors “The department…or an employee, agency, or any individual or entity acting at the request or upon the direction of any law enforcement agency is immune from civil liability for damages for good faith compliance with the requirements of this section … and shall be presumed to have acted in good faith in compiling, recording, reporting, or releasing the information. The presumption of good faith is not overcome if a technical or clerical error is made…” F.S. §943.0435(10)

Registrants view our site as a resource, so it&#039;s important that the information they find here is accurate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75286">Tereto</a>.</p>
<p>Tereto,</p>
<p>Either you mistyped your comment or you are completely incorrect. It&#8217;s just the opposite! The Registration Statute contemplates that a government agent might make a clerical error, and it indemnifies such person for their errors “The department…or an employee, agency, or any individual or entity acting at the request or upon the direction of any law enforcement agency is immune from civil liability for damages for good faith compliance with the requirements of this section … and shall be presumed to have acted in good faith in compiling, recording, reporting, or releasing the information. The presumption of good faith is not overcome if a technical or clerical error is made…” F.S. §943.0435(10)</p>
<p>Registrants view our site as a resource, so it&#8217;s important that the information they find here is accurate.</p>
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		By: Ryan Anderson		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75287</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75286&quot;&gt;Tereto&lt;/a&gt;.

Where ? Can you site this statue because there been supposed cases where errors on the entry end have happened and they still blame the PFR]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75286">Tereto</a>.</p>
<p>Where ? Can you site this statue because there been supposed cases where errors on the entry end have happened and they still blame the PFR</p>
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		By: Tereto		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75286</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tereto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75256&quot;&gt;screwed+over&lt;/a&gt;.

There is a clause in the statutes we sign, that if the registry clerk errors on the registry, it is grounds for a civil lawsuit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75256">screwed+over</a>.</p>
<p>There is a clause in the statutes we sign, that if the registry clerk errors on the registry, it is grounds for a civil lawsuit.</p>
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		By: tearfuleagle		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75277</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tearfuleagle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2026 17:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75270&quot;&gt;DVC&lt;/a&gt;.

On this I would agree.  I thought i read a while back about a Habeas case about whether or not SORNA places us &quot;In Custody&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75270">DVC</a>.</p>
<p>On this I would agree.  I thought i read a while back about a Habeas case about whether or not SORNA places us &#8220;In Custody&#8221;</p>
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		By: DVC		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75270</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DVC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2026 16:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think there are strong arguments for us here in both hearings.
If in hearing #2, in-person registration is judged a violation of habeas corpus, this would be a landmark case across United States and that sorna is not a constitunionally covered aspect concerning in-person registration-we have to be somewhere, at a certain time, or else be prosecuted if we are not there in a situation not covered by the Constitution, regardless that it is a so-called civil regulatory scheme.
Civil regulatory schemes are not supposed to be punitive, but this is, and I think that would have been a good argument as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are strong arguments for us here in both hearings.<br />
If in hearing #2, in-person registration is judged a violation of habeas corpus, this would be a landmark case across United States and that sorna is not a constitunionally covered aspect concerning in-person registration-we have to be somewhere, at a certain time, or else be prosecuted if we are not there in a situation not covered by the Constitution, regardless that it is a so-called civil regulatory scheme.<br />
Civil regulatory schemes are not supposed to be punitive, but this is, and I think that would have been a good argument as well.</p>
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		By: tearfuleagle		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/listen-oral-arguments-in-6th-circuit-sex-offender-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-75269</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tearfuleagle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2026 16:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Second one was better for us in that the one Justice mentioned stop and Frisk as well was as the whole scheme being a form of Seizure.  We will see, but not holding my breath.   Until SCOTUS says, SORA, SORNA can not be applied retroactively.  We are stuck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Second one was better for us in that the one Justice mentioned stop and Frisk as well was as the whole scheme being a form of Seizure.  We will see, but not holding my breath.   Until SCOTUS says, SORA, SORNA can not be applied retroactively.  We are stuck.</p>
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