The form was not presented to me when I did my register recently. But was prepared for it to happen. I brought someone as a witness if needed and was going to ask to take the paper to my attorney for guidance as this info is not under the statues that would require this type of information by given by any offender.

Thanks!

I agree.

Alan

Shhhhhhhhh, not so loud. We do not want Madam Book or any of her Cohorts getting any bright ideas to retroactively change the paperwork with added updates.

Bwj

That is because, as far as I am concerned, we on the registry, ARE back on probation. I did not have these many obligations when I WAS on probation 25 years ago. What happened to “Do your time” and move on? So much for it not being punishment.

How can you go to jail for something that does not apply to ANY other group of people except Ex sex offenders that are not on probation anymore.

That is interesting.

I’ve long been concerned that the criminal regime where I live will one day pass a “law” that says PFRs must provide whatever information the local yokels decide they want. I can say for sure that our locals don’t have enough sense to do that. They should never have such discretion.

I also feel like it would be impossible to justify requiring any information unless it could be directly related to proactively trying to prevent crime. I think that information is quite limited. For example, your marital status has nothing to do with that. The identity of your spouse has nothing to do with that. Little does. I’m not saying the criminal couldn’t get away with it, I’m just saying they couldn’t justify it.

I would think this ambiguous “whatever they decide” “law” would be very ripe for lawsuits. There is no reason that a state cannot and should not identify the exact information required. No ambiguity should be allowed.

This is just like the “delegation clause” from federal Congress for SORNA though. They delegated to a different entity to define some of the law. I suppose the state criminal regimes could do that but you wouldn’t think they could delegate to each county. And certainly not without specifically stating it.

So depending on how the State of Florida interprets the word “including”, it’s possible during initial registration the Sherriff’s department can require any information they believe to be necessary.

However, 943.0435(11), which covers maintaining registration, does not include an all inclusive statement of this sort.

Interesting approach but I don’t think it’s particularly useful. I expect they’d just tell you that you can leave any time. Are you not free to leave at any time during any of the Registration process? Where I live, people certainly are. You are just there to fill out some forms and can leave if you like. You just won’t be have completed your legal obligation. They don’t have any problem with that. After your deadline passes (e.g. that day, the day after, whenever it is), they’ll just issue an arrest warrant for FTR.

Where I live, LE is just like this – they are not capable of operating within and following even the simplest parts of the law. They can’t manage it. They ask for all kinds of information that is not legally required. So I simply draw a line through all the illegal items. Don’t leave them blank (because we know the criminals might fill them in). That works just fine for me but I know it is not helping others and the criminals are bullying many to give them information which is not legally required.

So occasionally, I’ve written to the criminal regimes and asked them to remove their extraneous items. I write to them and their attorneys. They’ve fixed it in the past. I’ve only had to hire my own attorney once, but that worked as well. If they bother me about it in the future, I’ll sue them and they’ll pay me, just like they have before. Marion County should be forced to pay but whomever does it should not settle for a small amount. We need to start getting a lot in order to fund more fights against their recurring crimes.