Comments on: Member Submission: Barrment from Military Installations/Bases

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 24 Jun 2020 19:03:31 +0000

Access to telecom facilities with equipment owned by AT&T on base is/was important at the time. Base utility/maintenance staff have strict instructions not to perform any maintenance, removal, or installation of the equipment (building collapse or fire is different). I never disputed anything she said nor made a big fuss on the phone about my prior visit (before the implementation of rapidgate). I just said thank you and calmly left the base. Then notified my supervisor of my denial to base access and he personally drove up to take care of the job.
I just found it funny that I received a “banned” letter from the CO of the base which was copied not only to base security but up the chain to darn near short of SECNAV. However, base access IS important to those who frequent medical facilities such as the original poster. Base security doesn’t do anything anyway (LOL) so it would not have been an issue to escort an individual to the hospital and back to the gate. Or a long shot, provide a shuttle from the main gate to there and back. But for me personally, I can care less.

By: Big Al in Jax

Big Al in Jax — Wed, 24 Jun 2020 02:53:02 +0000

In reply to Chris. Chris, Does access to the base still hold importance? There are possible avenues you can take to request a waiver. There are no guarantees but you dont ask and the answer is always NO.

By: Chris

Chris — Tue, 23 Jun 2020 18:13:51 +0000

I had a situation at Mayport installation several years back. I was a subcontractor to AT&T and I had a work order to remove some telecom batteries from a building which I previously visited 7 months prior. Upon presenting my credentials, the pass and decal lady ran my information in this new “RapidGate” program that the installations started using earlier that year. She informed me that I am unable to get a pass. I said I was just here and received a pass 7 months ago. she said ooooo, had yeah I can see you in our system and had you came back 60 days ago, you could’ve came on. So I asked what was the reason conlsidering it’s literally going to take me 15 minutes to remove them and exit the base. she said she doesnt know and gave me a number to call. I called the number and the guy said it was because my name showed up on the registry and due to the safety of their personnel and the facility, i am denied. Im likeits literally going to take 15 minutes from start to finish. he said unless i can have someone else do the job, he cannot allow me on… even with an escort. so i said ok and hung up. 2 weeks later, I received a nice little letter from the CO of the base explaining that i am banned from entering the base, the exchange (which is off base), and the Ribault housing area. Failing to comply will lead to me being detained and federally charged with trespassing. Now our company was small, it as only myself and another tech in jacksonville, and the other tech was out of state on another job so it was just me here. As a vet, i was offended to be “banned” from a base, but it was not like I was a frequent visitor of the base both while i was in and when i got out.

By: Media

Media — Thu, 18 Jun 2020 10:48:29 +0000

In reply to Al in Jax.

Al, this is great news. I see that JZ helped you out below on what to do. All the legal work shows that they cannot refuse to allow you on base as long as you get the waiver. That is why I was shocked when you reported being denied access. I thought that the military had changed their policy. So glad to hear that is not the case.

We were forced to move because of Clay County’s residency restrictions, but before the move, we used NAS JAX all the time — a great place to go. And yes, I have found that the military treats registrants with the greatest of respect, as well as all of society.

One added note, when I was researching all of this before JZ sent the regulations to me, I had read that bases allowed registrants who worked for civilian contractors on the base. The only stipulation was that they had to obey the laws concerning registrants — the same as you would off base. That is why I was shocked when you said you were barred. A special thanks to JZ who always helps us out with this situation.

By: Florida Action Committee

Florida Action Committee — Wed, 17 Jun 2020 22:09:37 +0000

In reply to Al in Jax. This is great news, Al, and I hope it works out in the end.

By: Al in Jax

Al in Jax — Wed, 17 Jun 2020 21:51:51 +0000

An update on my Base barrment situation. I reached out to the FAC members and leadership about what occurred. ALL of the responses were heartfelt. Some of the advice could not be used, but was appreciated. I was able to obtain the Naval Instructions that provided accurate steps and points of contact on what to do and how to submit it. As of today, I have drafted a four page letter to the Navy leadership that is within the guidelines they have established. I have spoken to the Navy lawyer in charge of providing the Admiral with the information proving the waiver I am requesting is legal and valid. I have been told my request in in accordance with the instructions, properly formatted and concise. The lawyer has also indicated I can call / email anytime for a status update. I was treated with kindness and respect from the Navy representation.
In short, FAC gave me a podium to ask “Can anyone offer advice” and it worked. I am hoping to have my access to the Bases re established in about two months. Thanks again to everyone that responded.

By: Big Al in Jax

Big Al in Jax — Wed, 27 May 2020 15:01:06 +0000

In reply to JZ. Is it possible to forward my contact information directly to JZ? Having the specific instructions that support my arguement and to see clearly where the military is standing would be very helpful. Thanks

By: YadaYada

YadaYada — Sun, 24 May 2020 19:36:09 +0000

Your problem is that you are in Florida. Talk to the ACLU about your situation, and what you can do. You may have to sue for remedy! Good Luck! I travel around the world and have never been refused access to any base, including Homeland Security Bases!

By: Big Al in Jax

Big Al in Jax — Sat, 23 May 2020 13:10:50 +0000

In reply to JZ.

JZ. That information would be very helpful. My email is. ENCSISME@YAHOO.COM. I am ok with this being posted. Thx in advance. Al

By: JZ

JZ — Fri, 22 May 2020 23:40:49 +0000

@Big Al in Jax & FAC,

I have mentioned this same issue (which affects me) many times in my posts on this website. I have all the Navy Instructions, NAS JAX Security and Navy Region Southeast Legal Office points of contact. Rather than typing a multi-page post here, I will make this information available to FAC upon request. They can retain this information and assist retirees statewide.

What it boils down to is getting a waiver (a letter) signed by Rear Admiral Mays. He is the current Navy Region Southeast Commander. With this letter (and a day pass) you will be able to access medical, commissary, exchange, and veterans offices on any Navy base in the Southeast Region which includes NAS JAX and Mayport.

I don’t want to speak for Capt. Munsey, but I’m sure he has valuable information to share as well.