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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50031</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2022 00:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50030&quot;&gt;Jm&lt;/a&gt;.

JM

This is who everyone is telling me is really good and has gotten several off Florida Registry. But I heard he is mega expensive.

This is from FAC website list of attorneys

Ron M. Kleiner, ESQ
South Florida Attorney]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50030">Jm</a>.</p>
<p>JM</p>
<p>This is who everyone is telling me is really good and has gotten several off Florida Registry. But I heard he is mega expensive.</p>
<p>This is from FAC website list of attorneys</p>
<p>Ron M. Kleiner, ESQ<br />
South Florida Attorney</p>
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		By: Jm		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50030</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2022 22:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50027&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

Ok so im ready to apply to get off this  nightmare. I was released from registering in my home state two years ago (it was a federal) 26 years ago. Not sure what lawyer has had success on this if any but ive read here some have. Is there a group that does these?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50027">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>Ok so im ready to apply to get off this  nightmare. I was released from registering in my home state two years ago (it was a federal) 26 years ago. Not sure what lawyer has had success on this if any but ive read here some have. Is there a group that does these?</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50029</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2022 18:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50028&quot;&gt;Scott T Wieland&lt;/a&gt;.

Scott
You said

&quot;Another special probation officer, I had, would come by at mid-evening, usually around dinner time. He’d enter my home and make himself comfortable on the couch and proceed to watch whatever was on TV. Or sometimes he would ask if I would change the channel to one of his favorite programs that he was missing.&quot;

That is downright disturbing, creepy and probably contrary to rules of engagement for a probation officer.  Surprised they didn&#039;t go into your kitchen and make themselves dinner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50028">Scott T Wieland</a>.</p>
<p>Scott<br />
You said</p>
<p>&#8220;Another special probation officer, I had, would come by at mid-evening, usually around dinner time. He’d enter my home and make himself comfortable on the couch and proceed to watch whatever was on TV. Or sometimes he would ask if I would change the channel to one of his favorite programs that he was missing.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is downright disturbing, creepy and probably contrary to rules of engagement for a probation officer.  Surprised they didn&#8217;t go into your kitchen and make themselves dinner.</p>
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		By: Scott T Wieland		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott T Wieland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2022 13:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50013&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

It really chafes my butt when I read about “quasi-professionals,” who, are being paid salaries from my tax dollars—your tax dollars and acting like thugs or gang lords.  And I can relate to you.

Here in Lee County, I&#039;ve had several probation officers.  Nine years of “professional supervision.”

I had one young guy, I say young because he was probably 20 years my younger--always tidy and nicely manicured--who would come in at 8:00 or 9:00 o&#039;clock at night and want to do a house check. One evening he came over and I had a friend with me who was 29 years old. He asked my friend for identification because he needed to “verify” that he was “at least 18 years of age” because of my status as a sex offender.

The same probation officer told my employer that I could not be promoted to management. He smugly said to her that I was “not allowed to manage others.” She knew of my status as a Registrant and had previously gotten permission from corporate to promote me to “third key.”

“Who are you to tell him that he can&#039;t better his life?” She challenged him.

He told her, “I&#039;m the guy that&#039;ll stand in front of your store and tell every one of your customers as they walk in that you&#039;ve got a sex offender working in there.”  I was fired three days later. Not by my boss, but by corporate attorneys.

Another special probation officer, I had, would come by at mid-evening, usually around dinner time. He&#039;d enter my home and make himself comfortable on the couch and proceed to watch whatever was on TV. Or sometimes he would ask if I would change the channel to one of his favorite programs that he was missing.

I&#039;ve had four different addresses over the last 10 years that I&#039;ve been off probational supervision and on address verification only. I have to say, that all the officers that have come to my home for address verification have been very courteous and respectful to me, to my spouse, and even to our Shi Zu.  They are in full uniform when they visit, but they drive up in an unmarked vehicle. They&#039;ve never asked me for identification. Many times, as I walked up to the door, as soon as they’d see me, they would wave and walk away. I&#039;ve even had a couple of drive-bys.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50013">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>It really chafes my butt when I read about “quasi-professionals,” who, are being paid salaries from my tax dollars—your tax dollars and acting like thugs or gang lords.  And I can relate to you.</p>
<p>Here in Lee County, I&#8217;ve had several probation officers.  Nine years of “professional supervision.”</p>
<p>I had one young guy, I say young because he was probably 20 years my younger&#8211;always tidy and nicely manicured&#8211;who would come in at 8:00 or 9:00 o&#8217;clock at night and want to do a house check. One evening he came over and I had a friend with me who was 29 years old. He asked my friend for identification because he needed to “verify” that he was “at least 18 years of age” because of my status as a sex offender.</p>
<p>The same probation officer told my employer that I could not be promoted to management. He smugly said to her that I was “not allowed to manage others.” She knew of my status as a Registrant and had previously gotten permission from corporate to promote me to “third key.”</p>
<p>“Who are you to tell him that he can&#8217;t better his life?” She challenged him.</p>
<p>He told her, “I&#8217;m the guy that&#8217;ll stand in front of your store and tell every one of your customers as they walk in that you&#8217;ve got a sex offender working in there.”  I was fired three days later. Not by my boss, but by corporate attorneys.</p>
<p>Another special probation officer, I had, would come by at mid-evening, usually around dinner time. He&#8217;d enter my home and make himself comfortable on the couch and proceed to watch whatever was on TV. Or sometimes he would ask if I would change the channel to one of his favorite programs that he was missing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had four different addresses over the last 10 years that I&#8217;ve been off probational supervision and on address verification only. I have to say, that all the officers that have come to my home for address verification have been very courteous and respectful to me, to my spouse, and even to our Shi Zu.  They are in full uniform when they visit, but they drive up in an unmarked vehicle. They&#8217;ve never asked me for identification. Many times, as I walked up to the door, as soon as they’d see me, they would wave and walk away. I&#8217;ve even had a couple of drive-bys.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50027</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 21:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50026&quot;&gt;Jm&lt;/a&gt;.

JM

I no longer leave Florida because of the &quot;unknowns&quot; so in that instant, I have no useful information. But like you, my charges are from more than 3 decades ago. I am almost 60 and still putting up with crap from my late 20&#039;s?

How should anyone pay for something over and over again when you have done your time. I mean HELL, why not just sentence us all to life in prison if that is their goal. Are they pissed that at the time we could not be given life so they are sentencing us to the next best thing? Lifetime registration.

Maybe every registered person in Florida should arrive at the state capitol and all of us can chain ourselves to the pillars and when we run out of room, we can handcuff ourselves to each other. Make a human chain. The last straw was when the deputy yelled at my Mom because she told the deputy I am not on probation so she doesn&#039;t have to tell him when I will be home.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50026">Jm</a>.</p>
<p>JM</p>
<p>I no longer leave Florida because of the &#8220;unknowns&#8221; so in that instant, I have no useful information. But like you, my charges are from more than 3 decades ago. I am almost 60 and still putting up with crap from my late 20&#8217;s?</p>
<p>How should anyone pay for something over and over again when you have done your time. I mean HELL, why not just sentence us all to life in prison if that is their goal. Are they pissed that at the time we could not be given life so they are sentencing us to the next best thing? Lifetime registration.</p>
<p>Maybe every registered person in Florida should arrive at the state capitol and all of us can chain ourselves to the pillars and when we run out of room, we can handcuff ourselves to each other. Make a human chain. The last straw was when the deputy yelled at my Mom because she told the deputy I am not on probation so she doesn&#8217;t have to tell him when I will be home.</p>
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		By: Jm		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50026</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 21:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50025&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

So im back to the question: can they do all this to me if im not around. And why do i have to fly back from where i am to florida for that second registration]]></description>
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<p>So im back to the question: can they do all this to me if im not around. And why do i have to fly back from where i am to florida for that second registration</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50025</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2022 22:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50022&quot;&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;.

David

The deputy who checks on me &quot;NOT&quot; on probation, comes, if I am not home, he puts a sex offender flyer on our front door, even if another family member is there.

If he comes back again and I am not home, he goes to neighbors to ask if they had seen me. When he finally finds me home, he tells me &quot;After 3 times of not being home, I will issue a warrant for your arrest for non-compliance&quot;.  WTF???????? Sounds like damn probation to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50022">David</a>.</p>
<p>David</p>
<p>The deputy who checks on me &#8220;NOT&#8221; on probation, comes, if I am not home, he puts a sex offender flyer on our front door, even if another family member is there.</p>
<p>If he comes back again and I am not home, he goes to neighbors to ask if they had seen me. When he finally finds me home, he tells me &#8220;After 3 times of not being home, I will issue a warrant for your arrest for non-compliance&#8221;.  WTF???????? Sounds like damn probation to me.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-1/#comment-50024</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2022 19:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-1/#comment-50004&quot;&gt;Next County Over&lt;/a&gt;.

Home Verification is just that, to verify that you reside at the address provided. Ask them to cute the law, rule ir statute that compels your compliance. I would the get their name and badge numbers a file an Internal Affairs Complaint. It worked for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-1/#comment-50004">Next County Over</a>.</p>
<p>Home Verification is just that, to verify that you reside at the address provided. Ask them to cute the law, rule ir statute that compels your compliance. I would the get their name and badge numbers a file an Internal Affairs Complaint. It worked for me.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-1/#comment-50023</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2022 19:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-1/#comment-50010&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

I would file an Internal Affairs Complaint if I were him. Make sure to include their names and badge numbers.]]></description>
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<p>I would file an Internal Affairs Complaint if I were him. Make sure to include their names and badge numbers.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50022</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2022 19:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50015&quot;&gt;Jm&lt;/a&gt;.

They are, as trained to do, lying to you. Ask the to cute the law, rule ir statute that compels your complance, to be home at all time in case they decide to show up and to verify, sign and date, or answer, and registry Questions. They will not respond except to come up with more lies. Get their name and badge numbers an file an Internal Affairs Complaint. It worked for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/member-submission-signing-a-paper-at-address-verification/comment-page-2/#comment-50015">Jm</a>.</p>
<p>They are, as trained to do, lying to you. Ask the to cute the law, rule ir statute that compels your complance, to be home at all time in case they decide to show up and to verify, sign and date, or answer, and registry Questions. They will not respond except to come up with more lies. Get their name and badge numbers an file an Internal Affairs Complaint. It worked for me.</p>
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