Comments on: MI: Supreme Court says 2011 changes to sex offender law cannot be applied retroactively

By: CherokeeJack

CherokeeJack — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 22:08:46 +0000

To: Disgusted

Hey old Chap, I have come up with sort of a Brilliant idea. (Trying not to laugh as I type this)
You see, there is in fact a way we can ALL benefit from this ruling. We just need to petition for name change. We all just need to change our last names to Betts and we are a shoe in to be removed.
* BTW I do a splendid British accent :)~

By: Disgusted in Michigan

Disgusted in Michigan — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 15:22:00 +0000

In reply to gene1720. Gene...no. This is a criminal case and only applies to Mr. Betts. If you move to Michigan, you're f***ed.

By: Brandon

Brandon — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 13:35:16 +0000

In reply to gene1720. Gene You’ll be on the Florida registry even in death. Why because Florida is one backwards state that commits fraud to inflate the numbers to get more federal money. Hopefully the out of state challenge wins and people no longer in Florida get their life back; while those in Florida stay wrestle with the Taipans aka Florida government. Never give up to the Taipans.

By: Florida Action Committee

Florida Action Committee — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 12:05:33 +0000

In reply to gene1720. No. It does not mean that. Florida will keep you on.

By: gene1720

gene1720 — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 05:02:57 +0000

Does this mean I can move to Michigan and get off the registry in Florida?

By: CherokeeJack

CherokeeJack — Mon, 02 Aug 2021 11:39:08 +0000

What I find disgusting is, when these rulings come down, you almost never automatically have it applied. You as an individual, have to hire your own attorney to go to court and each case is heard on a case by case basis.
I do not know about most on here, But having been on the registry since 1997, even when I worked I made about 1/2 of what many of people with my educational skills should make. I have not had a job since 2014. Physically I am unable to. I have been denied disability, denied food stamps, or any other assistance.
I had to move in with my elderly parents just so I do not end up on the street. The cases do not reveal how much they had to pay their lawyer, but from my 1991 case, I can tell you, most of the time you could buy a car with what it cost to go before a judge for relief and appeal if you lose.
Very seldom have I seen a registry relief decision that was applied with blanket rule without some sort of action on the individuals part. In legal perspective, these rulings should be automatically applied. It is like winning a Gold medal but having to spend $10,000 to travel to Europe to pick it up, then to find out it is only plated gold.
*CherokeeJack just dropped the mic. Ladies and Gentlemen, please exit the building slowly to the right.

By: Michael A Pierce

Michael A Pierce — Mon, 02 Aug 2021 04:31:02 +0000

In reply to Florida Action Committee.

By: Detroit

Detroit — Thu, 29 Jul 2021 22:10:08 +0000

In reply to Confused.

Ed C:
You’re correct, the state supreme court interpretation of it’s laws and constitution are binding on all federal courts.
Also, a lot of people here are confused about an appeal. This is a criminal case and can be appealed to the U.S. district court. Only civil cases are appealed directly to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Regardless, this is the end of the line for this case. The Michigan Supreme Court has spoken and to appeal the federal question would be mute.

By: DM

DM — Thu, 29 Jul 2021 20:35:51 +0000

I sure hope this seals it for MI. We were disappointed in Colorado recently. A ruling favorable to SO’s made it to all the way the Fed. Appeals Ct. and they reversed the ruling.

they said:

The law governing Colorado’s sex offender registry is not cruel and unusual punishment, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit ruled on Thursday, because the registry was not meant to be a punishment.

“We therefore conclude that the Colorado legislature’s intent behind the registration requirements was civil, and not punitive,” wrote Judge Allison H. Eid for the three-member panel. The decision reversed a 2017 lower court ruling that found the law violated constitutional guarantees.

There are changes coming to CO in the next legislative session but elimination or the chance to be removed are not in the package

By: Media

Media — Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:44:24 +0000

According to the FAC Weekly Update 2021-07-28 Ref#162, an excellent one by the way, we now have at least nine states that have found “their registry” to be unconstitutional. Why are these states still allowed to have their barbaric, unconstitutional statutes and ordinances for registrants?