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	Comments on: Montana Supreme Court rules Ex Post Facto registry requirements punishment and unconstitutional	</title>
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		By: Saddles		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-4/#comment-59328</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saddles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2023 00:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[During my intake classes the PO calls me in to read and sign a paper saying I knew I was talking to a teenager which I refused to sign. He told me it was just a formality. Guess that was to safeguard themselves. Even the officer that arrested me said I didn&#039;t have any porno on my computer.

With this Supreme Court decision many states will follow suit as court systems are becoming aware this registry is unjust and wrong in many respects in this con game inducement on many And people are filing suits also.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During my intake classes the PO calls me in to read and sign a paper saying I knew I was talking to a teenager which I refused to sign. He told me it was just a formality. Guess that was to safeguard themselves. Even the officer that arrested me said I didn&#8217;t have any porno on my computer.</p>
<p>With this Supreme Court decision many states will follow suit as court systems are becoming aware this registry is unjust and wrong in many respects in this con game inducement on many And people are filing suits also.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-4/#comment-59327</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-4/#comment-59326&quot;&gt;Jimmy from Port Orange&lt;/a&gt;.

@Jimmy

You should be ashamed of yourself owning a trailer that could lead to a sex offense (I am being sarcastic of course)
These things are just made up to do just what they did to you, cause you to mess up so you cannot ever be removed.
B to the S = BS ways to bar us from relief. 
Sad when they cannot find enough legit crime to justify their job.

I came close once myself when I broke down in front of a school. Someone stopped and helped me push the vehicle onto the shoulder and about 10 minutes later a police cruiser pulled behind me and ran my plate. I explained I had already called for help to get towed and there was nothing I could do. He called his supervisor who told him as long as I did not go on the property and stayed with the vehicle until the tow truck came, I was in the clear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-4/#comment-59326">Jimmy from Port Orange</a>.</p>
<p>@Jimmy</p>
<p>You should be ashamed of yourself owning a trailer that could lead to a sex offense (I am being sarcastic of course)<br />
These things are just made up to do just what they did to you, cause you to mess up so you cannot ever be removed.<br />
B to the S = BS ways to bar us from relief.<br />
Sad when they cannot find enough legit crime to justify their job.</p>
<p>I came close once myself when I broke down in front of a school. Someone stopped and helped me push the vehicle onto the shoulder and about 10 minutes later a police cruiser pulled behind me and ran my plate. I explained I had already called for help to get towed and there was nothing I could do. He called his supervisor who told him as long as I did not go on the property and stayed with the vehicle until the tow truck came, I was in the clear.</p>
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		By: Jimmy from Port Orange		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-4/#comment-59326</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy from Port Orange]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was placed on the registry in Feb.2000 for making a comment and gesture. Sentenced to 5 years prison followed by 5 years probation. I successfully completed probation in 2008 and had been arrest free until Oct. 2022 when I was arrested for failing to include a utility trailer in the vehicles owned portion of my bi-yearly registration paperwork. These requirements were not in place at the time of my sentencing and because of this arrest I am no longer eligible to petition the court to be removed from the registry. How is this retroactive law not punishment?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was placed on the registry in Feb.2000 for making a comment and gesture. Sentenced to 5 years prison followed by 5 years probation. I successfully completed probation in 2008 and had been arrest free until Oct. 2022 when I was arrested for failing to include a utility trailer in the vehicles owned portion of my bi-yearly registration paperwork. These requirements were not in place at the time of my sentencing and because of this arrest I am no longer eligible to petition the court to be removed from the registry. How is this retroactive law not punishment?</p>
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		By: Curious		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-59325</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curious]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2023 01:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-59324&quot;&gt;Neil&lt;/a&gt;.

Neil, I too was convicted in a federal court (CP offense). I served 5 years in federal prison and 10 years of supervised release without incident. The judge ordered me to register wherever I live, work, etc. My lawyer raised the question on jurisdiction and different sovereignties, but the judge didn&#039;t really answer it. Nevertheless, the 11th Circuit affirmed my sentencing on direct appeal. No shocker there. My conviction and sentence both predate the IML. I&#039;d love for that law to not apply on ex posy facto grounds. Not sure how to get this done though since Florida&#039;s registry has not been deemed unconstitutional yet. Maybe I need to move to a state where the registry scheme has been deemed punishment/punitive, then challenge the IML]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-59324">Neil</a>.</p>
<p>Neil, I too was convicted in a federal court (CP offense). I served 5 years in federal prison and 10 years of supervised release without incident. The judge ordered me to register wherever I live, work, etc. My lawyer raised the question on jurisdiction and different sovereignties, but the judge didn&#8217;t really answer it. Nevertheless, the 11th Circuit affirmed my sentencing on direct appeal. No shocker there. My conviction and sentence both predate the IML. I&#8217;d love for that law to not apply on ex posy facto grounds. Not sure how to get this done though since Florida&#8217;s registry has not been deemed unconstitutional yet. Maybe I need to move to a state where the registry scheme has been deemed punishment/punitive, then challenge the IML</p>
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		By: Neil		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-59324</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2023 00:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How can this Montana State Ruling Best Be Used to Benefit the Rest of the 49...? My Conviction was in Manhattan Federal Court in January of 2008, over 8 years before IML was ever signed into law, and I only served less than 2 1/2 years at Fort Dix! I left the States (NYC) in February of 2019, and except for a Month (March of 2019 because I was turned away from every country I flew to) in Hawaii, L.A. and Arizona, I have stayed away from the U.S.!!!!!!!

IF IML NO LONGER APPLIES TO ME, AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO WAS CONVICTED BEFORE IT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW, A WHOLE LOT OF US SHOULD BE TALKING TO A LAWYER ONCE THAT IS THE CASE IN THE STATE THAT YOU WERE CONVICTED!!!!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can this Montana State Ruling Best Be Used to Benefit the Rest of the 49&#8230;? My Conviction was in Manhattan Federal Court in January of 2008, over 8 years before IML was ever signed into law, and I only served less than 2 1/2 years at Fort Dix! I left the States (NYC) in February of 2019, and except for a Month (March of 2019 because I was turned away from every country I flew to) in Hawaii, L.A. and Arizona, I have stayed away from the U.S.!!!!!!!</p>
<p>IF IML NO LONGER APPLIES TO ME, AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO WAS CONVICTED BEFORE IT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW, A WHOLE LOT OF US SHOULD BE TALKING TO A LAWYER ONCE THAT IS THE CASE IN THE STATE THAT YOU WERE CONVICTED!!!!!!!!</p>
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		By: DavidM		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-59323</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2023 14:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a step in the right direction.  Last month we noticed the  ruling about posting no candy signs on Halloween was unconstitutional because of compelled speech. Which is more invasive to someone  , to put a sign on your door one day a year or to list all your private information  , plus  labeling you as  something that instills hatred to the uneducated.  Then  spreading it on the internet for millions to  be able to take out  their  vengeance on according to their imaginary  qualms. Why is this not also compelled speech. To say the least.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a step in the right direction.  Last month we noticed the  ruling about posting no candy signs on Halloween was unconstitutional because of compelled speech. Which is more invasive to someone  , to put a sign on your door one day a year or to list all your private information  , plus  labeling you as  something that instills hatred to the uneducated.  Then  spreading it on the internet for millions to  be able to take out  their  vengeance on according to their imaginary  qualms. Why is this not also compelled speech. To say the least.</p>
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		By: Sc		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-59322</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-59321&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

That usually means that those particular inmates are costing the State too much in medical costs vs the money gained from their being incarcerated. It&#039;s a cost cutting measure. Nothing altruistic there. /Shrug]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-59321">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>That usually means that those particular inmates are costing the State too much in medical costs vs the money gained from their being incarcerated. It&#8217;s a cost cutting measure. Nothing altruistic there. /Shrug</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-59321</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 21:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On the news last night, the Florida department of Corrections stated it is thinking about freeing all inmates 50 and over who have a chronic health condition. They stated they can no longer afford to keep treating these conditions.
Not sure if they are being released onto probation or not. Also no mention of if anyone with a sex offense is eligible.

Source is WFTV but could not find a hard copy of the story online.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the news last night, the Florida department of Corrections stated it is thinking about freeing all inmates 50 and over who have a chronic health condition. They stated they can no longer afford to keep treating these conditions.<br />
Not sure if they are being released onto probation or not. Also no mention of if anyone with a sex offense is eligible.</p>
<p>Source is WFTV but could not find a hard copy of the story online.</p>
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		By: Saddles		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-59320</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saddles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 04:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hooray! Seems like this Supreme Court see&#039;s this registry as a bit of trespassing against another. Yes he made a decision which is a bit more theocratic and knows a lot about biblical truth. Many make choices as in well you made a choice in much of this registry game.

Decisions are more theocratic  than a choice which is what I made. Course I had my discernment all the time but I didn&#039;t want to argue with the officer at the time. Course he had to think of something else when I mentioned theirs a difference.. LE are dooming their own selves in all this game.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray! Seems like this Supreme Court see&#8217;s this registry as a bit of trespassing against another. Yes he made a decision which is a bit more theocratic and knows a lot about biblical truth. Many make choices as in well you made a choice in much of this registry game.</p>
<p>Decisions are more theocratic  than a choice which is what I made. Course I had my discernment all the time but I didn&#8217;t want to argue with the officer at the time. Course he had to think of something else when I mentioned theirs a difference.. LE are dooming their own selves in all this game.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-59319</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 02:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-59313&quot;&gt;tearfuleagle&lt;/a&gt;.

Tearfuleagle

50 different states, 50 different state supreme courts, 50 different laws/requirements and 50 different registries. Add to that, each county in each state tweeks their registry rules to suit themselves. That is untold 1000s of different registry compliance rules. 
On top of that, one state wins a victory over the registry while the rest of us suffer. Since it is supposedly over seen by the Feds, again, each state makes their own versions of the said punishment (Which somehow isn&#039;t punishment at all?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/montana-supreme-court-rules-ex-post-facto-registry-requirements-punishment-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-59313">tearfuleagle</a>.</p>
<p>Tearfuleagle</p>
<p>50 different states, 50 different state supreme courts, 50 different laws/requirements and 50 different registries. Add to that, each county in each state tweeks their registry rules to suit themselves. That is untold 1000s of different registry compliance rules.<br />
On top of that, one state wins a victory over the registry while the rest of us suffer. Since it is supposedly over seen by the Feds, again, each state makes their own versions of the said punishment (Which somehow isn&#8217;t punishment at all?)</p>
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