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	Comments on: NC: Process for adding out of state convictions to state registry is unconstitutional	</title>
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		By: Donald Slaton		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-19368</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald Slaton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2018 04:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-19364&quot;&gt;Aman&lt;/a&gt;.

Aman-
First of all did you read that my conviction was not a registered offense - so the state I was convicted in removed me but all attorneys tell me that they can’t help me due to the offense occurred in another state well the attorneys in that state say there is nothing they can do due to me being off the registry in that state. If I know the law at all the are saying basically this is a federal problem. But their is NO UNITED STATES WHEN THE ISSUE IS WITH SEX OFFENSE SO WHAT YOU AND I AND EVERYBODY ELSE NEEDS TO DO IS STAND UP AND TAKE THIS TO A FEDERAL COURT AND FIGHT IT ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE IF SO NEEDED. I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL BUT THIS CRAP HAS COST ME WAY TO MANY JOBS.  AND BY THE WAY A MURDER CAN GO AND GET ON A MILITARY BASE. ALSO A ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CAN DO SO ALSO , but a registered sex offender that hasn’t been in trouble for 20 yrs. can not ! 
Why is all I ask!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-19364">Aman</a>.</p>
<p>Aman-<br />
First of all did you read that my conviction was not a registered offense &#8211; so the state I was convicted in removed me but all attorneys tell me that they can’t help me due to the offense occurred in another state well the attorneys in that state say there is nothing they can do due to me being off the registry in that state. If I know the law at all the are saying basically this is a federal problem. But their is NO UNITED STATES WHEN THE ISSUE IS WITH SEX OFFENSE SO WHAT YOU AND I AND EVERYBODY ELSE NEEDS TO DO IS STAND UP AND TAKE THIS TO A FEDERAL COURT AND FIGHT IT ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE IF SO NEEDED. I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL BUT THIS CRAP HAS COST ME WAY TO MANY JOBS.  AND BY THE WAY A MURDER CAN GO AND GET ON A MILITARY BASE. ALSO A ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CAN DO SO ALSO , but a registered sex offender that hasn’t been in trouble for 20 yrs. can not !<br />
Why is all I ask!</p>
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		By: beefstew327		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-19367</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beefstew327]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2018 23:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-19360&quot;&gt;Bend Over - Florida Owns Your Ass For Life!&lt;/a&gt;.

I have been donating to it,as others have too. The problem is there is not enough of us I contacted other advocated only to be told. They  will bring it up in their  meeting. I do followup email nothing....................]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-19360">Bend Over &#8211; Florida Owns Your Ass For Life!</a>.</p>
<p>I have been donating to it,as others have too. The problem is there is not enough of us I contacted other advocated only to be told. They  will bring it up in their  meeting. I do followup email nothing&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Gerald		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-19366</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2018 22:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-19365&quot;&gt;Dustin&lt;/a&gt;.

That is the key problem with the ruling, Dustin. The Court actually told the state that there is nothing to prevent them from rewriting the law to provide a proper procedure for adding people, including Mr. Meredith, to the state&#039;s registry. Violation of ex post facto bans is a way to challenge such actions, but more often than not, appellate courts have ruled that ex post facto doesn&#039;t apply to sex offender registries. Unless the Supreme Court ever issues a new ruling that retroactive actions by the state are unconstitutional in regards to sex offender registries, most appellate courts are going to rule against the registrants. It&#039;s not just a theory that North Carolina could rewrite the law. This decision tells them to do it if they want to keep adding such people to their registry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-19365">Dustin</a>.</p>
<p>That is the key problem with the ruling, Dustin. The Court actually told the state that there is nothing to prevent them from rewriting the law to provide a proper procedure for adding people, including Mr. Meredith, to the state&#8217;s registry. Violation of ex post facto bans is a way to challenge such actions, but more often than not, appellate courts have ruled that ex post facto doesn&#8217;t apply to sex offender registries. Unless the Supreme Court ever issues a new ruling that retroactive actions by the state are unconstitutional in regards to sex offender registries, most appellate courts are going to rule against the registrants. It&#8217;s not just a theory that North Carolina could rewrite the law. This decision tells them to do it if they want to keep adding such people to their registry.</p>
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		By: Dustin		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-19365</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dustin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2018 21:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-19350&quot;&gt;Gerald&lt;/a&gt;.

@ Gerald,

I could be wrong, but the injunction states that current LE can&#039;t try to force him to register under current law. Granted, NC could in theory rewrite the applicable law and try to make it retroactive, but that comes back to the ex post facto thing that&#039;s already lost in a lot of other cases.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-19350">Gerald</a>.</p>
<p>@ Gerald,</p>
<p>I could be wrong, but the injunction states that current LE can&#8217;t try to force him to register under current law. Granted, NC could in theory rewrite the applicable law and try to make it retroactive, but that comes back to the ex post facto thing that&#8217;s already lost in a lot of other cases.</p>
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		By: Aman		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-19364</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2018 23:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-19362&quot;&gt;Donald Slaton&lt;/a&gt;.

Ok, here is the misunderstanding I keep reading about.... When you say you were removed from the registry by your state  you are correct, you were removed from having to register... in your state.  The national registry is a one-way ticket at this time.  Just like Hotel California, &quot;you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave&quot;.  If you were really &quot;off&quot; the registry then Florida, North Carolina or any state would have no way of knowing who you are.

To answer your question...Yes, this nonsense is unconstitutional, and only a small part of what we need to keep fighting against.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-19362">Donald Slaton</a>.</p>
<p>Ok, here is the misunderstanding I keep reading about&#8230;. When you say you were removed from the registry by your state  you are correct, you were removed from having to register&#8230; in your state.  The national registry is a one-way ticket at this time.  Just like Hotel California, &#8220;you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave&#8221;.  If you were really &#8220;off&#8221; the registry then Florida, North Carolina or any state would have no way of knowing who you are.</p>
<p>To answer your question&#8230;Yes, this nonsense is unconstitutional, and only a small part of what we need to keep fighting against.</p>
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		By: max		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-19363</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[max]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2018 12:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thinking in our own situation. FDLE chooses our tier level, chooses which charges are qualified, investigates us, and charges us again again. DOC had this problem in florida and lost immunity during suit was sued pretty good dealing with probation officers having too much encompassing power Id have to find the cases key word was &quot;immunity DOC&quot;. Think it was where they made up additional rules not ordered by the judge.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking in our own situation. FDLE chooses our tier level, chooses which charges are qualified, investigates us, and charges us again again. DOC had this problem in florida and lost immunity during suit was sued pretty good dealing with probation officers having too much encompassing power Id have to find the cases key word was &#8220;immunity DOC&#8221;. Think it was where they made up additional rules not ordered by the judge.</p>
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		By: Donald Slaton		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-19362</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald Slaton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2018 11:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-19343&quot;&gt;Capt Charles Munsey Jr. USN (Ret)&lt;/a&gt;.

IWell I was convicted in another state and at the time my charge was not even on the registration requirements. Now they amended the law so many times it’s pittiful now they are doing exposto facto well I have been removed from my state I was convicted in but moved to South Carolina now sled from South Carolina told the sheriff from my original state that I would fall under the state that convicted me well that was a lie so I moved from there and came to Florida well I wanted to move back to original state , “ now get this “ I’ve been removed from the registry , but they told me if I came back I would fall under Florida guidelines as a lifetime requirement???? Now how is that all legal let alone constitutional?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-19343">Capt Charles Munsey Jr. USN (Ret)</a>.</p>
<p>IWell I was convicted in another state and at the time my charge was not even on the registration requirements. Now they amended the law so many times it’s pittiful now they are doing exposto facto well I have been removed from my state I was convicted in but moved to South Carolina now sled from South Carolina told the sheriff from my original state that I would fall under the state that convicted me well that was a lie so I moved from there and came to Florida well I wanted to move back to original state , “ now get this “ I’ve been removed from the registry , but they told me if I came back I would fall under Florida guidelines as a lifetime requirement???? Now how is that all legal let alone constitutional?</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-19361</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2018 19:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-19352&quot;&gt;TS&lt;/a&gt;.

My understanding was that a sheriffs office representative determined that he wasn’t required to register, then some time later another agent of the same sheriffs office determined that he was required to register, reversing their previous determination. The second determination was made by finding the plaintiff on a federal register of federally mandated registrants and determining that he lived in the community and should be required to register.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-2/#comment-19352">TS</a>.</p>
<p>My understanding was that a sheriffs office representative determined that he wasn’t required to register, then some time later another agent of the same sheriffs office determined that he was required to register, reversing their previous determination. The second determination was made by finding the plaintiff on a federal register of federally mandated registrants and determining that he lived in the community and should be required to register.</p>
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		By: Bend Over - Florida Owns Your Ass For Life!		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-19360</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bend Over - Florida Owns Your Ass For Life!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2018 11:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gee, if only a group would try this out of state registry issue in Florida. Well, I guess we will never know.

Kinda important that people donate to the out of state fund as you can see it can get the ball rolling which is more than it&#039;s doing right now!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, if only a group would try this out of state registry issue in Florida. Well, I guess we will never know.</p>
<p>Kinda important that people donate to the out of state fund as you can see it can get the ball rolling which is more than it&#8217;s doing right now!</p>
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		By: rpsabq		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-19359</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rpsabq]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2018 03:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-19358&quot;&gt;rpsabq&lt;/a&gt;.

yeah duh... i got it.   If a state tells a person they don&#039;t have to register or a court tells a state not to register someone he&#039;s good.   So like keep a copy of that order handy just in case someone comes a knockin....   This is my situation in New Mexico, actually.  I keep the judge&#039;s order in my glove compartment at all times.  But of course i remain on the list in Florida.  got it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/nc-process-for-adding-out-of-state-convictions-to-state-registry-is-unconstitutional/comment-page-3/#comment-19358">rpsabq</a>.</p>
<p>yeah duh&#8230; i got it.   If a state tells a person they don&#8217;t have to register or a court tells a state not to register someone he&#8217;s good.   So like keep a copy of that order handy just in case someone comes a knockin&#8230;.   This is my situation in New Mexico, actually.  I keep the judge&#8217;s order in my glove compartment at all times.  But of course i remain on the list in Florida.  got it.</p>
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