Not aware of any FL registrant arrested for church presence, unless they had been trespassed or probation conditions disallowed it. And we haven’t been bringing challenges against probation conditions.

F.A.C

Re-read my comment until it sets in. Do you really think I am stupid? I never once said going to prison gets you off the registry. I was making a point that prison overrides the registry. If you are sent away for life, the registry is useless.

We all know that even death doesn’t remove you from the registry.

You don’t come off the registry when you go to prison.

Jim

The bottom line is, they DO want us off the registry. Yes you heard that right. In Exchange for being off the registry, they want us OFF to prison for life.
I have been harassed so many times by law enforcement it isn’t even funny. Most of the time when I start talking LEO Talk (Law Enforcement Officer) they back off knowing I also have a criminal justice degree and know my rights. I show them my graduate card.

Having said there, there are a few occasions where I was held for hours in the hot sun while they went back and forth with the dispacthers trying to get FDLE to ok an arrest because I was in a park or other public place.
One time I was walking a dog for a neighbor in a nearby park with my grand daughter. She doesn’t live with me so one of the neighbors thought I had kidnapped the girl and called 911. The cops arrived and detained me. My grand daughter was crying hysterically and I didn’t have my heart medication with me. I asked for an ambulance and they never did come.

Only after I demanded to have a Watch commander on scene did they release me. I was told “verbally” not to return to the park or I would be arrested for trespassing after warning. ????

I agree. Cops can charge you (thereby eliminating your ability to be removed from the registry) and then use b.s. to try and support their arguement. In my case they were aghast that i supervised my daughter while selling girl scout cookies. They didn’t acknowledge my daughter, they just said I was selling them. I wasn’t charged with this, but this was reported to the news and used to try and get my bail denied. It’s all about people wanting you gone because they have decided without any evidence you are going to do something bad. A lucky break was that one of the moms on my side is an attorney. She has twins. She was contacted to try and get her to say something incriminating about me. When she asked why, she was told they were trying to get me arrested. She contacted me after i bonded out. The p.d.’s office still hasn’t contacted her (over a year now) but she is ready and she is an officer of the court.

Point is, when i was on probation, church was one of the places i was restricted from going because of children. Do you really think that they won’t arrest you claiming that there is a Sunday school, vacation bible school, nursery, or ANY children’s activity on the grounds? You already know how some of these officers/ departments are.

I kinda thought FAC would be interested enough in the retroactive elimination of my personal freedoms to work or volunteer where i choose to include this arguement in the ex post fact suit.

Jim

Children congregate at Walmart, at the waiting room of the doctors office etc. Unless you are on probation, and have a charge involving minors, the cops can pack sand.

As a matter of fact, they can pack sand anyway. I say that with the utmost of disrespect, as a former cop. I can name maybe three honest people in the force that I would have trusted and I worked at a large metro department. So 3 people out of 1000s, that is sad.

… places where children congregate.

Bill

Even though I was a cop before there was the internet, I use to see lots of officers do background checks on their daughter’s boyfriends, look for dirt on their buddies exes and many other shady practices. It goes on a lot more than you think.

And now with all the technology we have, yeah, there is a ton of crimes being committed by law enforcement. But in the “Rules only apply to you” culture, what can you do? Yes you can complain, (And I would as well) but expect some blow back from his/her cop buddies.

I know from experience how they stick together and lie. One of the long list of reasons I resigned. It is like a sub culture all of its own.

I can personally tell you the news director will be surprised that people are ‘respectfully’ contacting them to share their view of the story and the equivalent of fear-mongering when empirical research data indicates:
A study reviewing sex crimes as reported to police revealed that:
a) 93% of child sexual abuse victims knew their abuser;
b) 34.2% were family members;
c) 58.7% were acquaintances;
d) Only 7% of the perpetrators of child victims were strangers;
e) 40% of sexual assaults take place in the victim’s own home;
f) 20% take place in the home of a friend, neighbor or relative (Jill Levenson, PhD, Lynn University)