JJJJ
I was not trying to cause an argument with you. If you feel that way, I apologize. I was just saying, God himself could come down and tell one of these judges we are being punished by being on the public registry. And the judge would say “In this courtroom, I am god!”.
* There might be a lightning bolt in the area after that statement so stay clear LOL

Let’s put it another way…an analogy:
If a federal judge rules that making someone eat their vegetables is unconstitutional, then the State of Florida cannot pass a law that says that nobody has to eat their vegetables – EXCEPT for left handed people who are taller than 7 feet.
UNLESS they also state (aver) that there is a compelling government interest in forcing left handed giants to eat their veggies.
So as a class of 7 foot tall lefties, we can easily assert that our federal civil rights are being violated because everyone else has been exempted from veggie eating, but we are still forced to eat them.
(Easy peasy, right?)

But you have completely missed my point.
The point is that this extremely straightforward.
A federal judge said that having to beg the governor and his panel for restoration of your civil rights is CLEARLY IN VIOLATION OF THE US CONSTITUTION!

PERIOD…FULL STOP!!

So unless Florida actually (not just constructively) elucidates some sort of compelling governmental interest, and then CODIFIES it into law, then they may NOT violate your rights under the US Constitution.

In other words, violating your federal civil rights is a very heavy duty thing. Florida may not do that without going through a whole bunch of process!

But Florida is doing this without any process.
This would be extremely simple to successfully litigate (albeit expensive).

Do you get it now?

JJJJ

When it comes to those on the registry or with a sex offense, I do not believe there has ever been a slam dunk for us. We have had to swim from the Key west to Alaska, blindfolded while wearing weight belts, just to sometimes even get a hearing and not have it automatically thrown out.

On a select few have even been successful in Florida and getting off the registry. And I am sorry but once off the registry, your charges are still there and the Nextdoor app is still going to bar and harass you. Getting pulled over is still going to be uncomfortable because a sex offense will still come up during an info check. Along with out of country travel and passport issues.

That should say “proscription” above. (Auto correct)

In 2018 a FEDERAL judge found that the Florida process of regaining rights (including the vote) was unconstitutional. — The judge said that the whole idea of people having to appear in front of the governor and a tribunal (since 1868, as I recall) was unconstitutional.

Therefore, the OLD Florida process of regaining one’s right to vote (after a felony conviction) was ruled unconstitutional by a federal judge.

The process is unconstitutional … FULL STOP!

We (persons forced to register) are STILL required to undergo an unconstitutional tribunal In order to even TRY to regain the vote.

This process has been declared (by a federal judge) to be unconstitutional.

IF the state of Florida had asserted a compelling governmental interest, and THEN passed legislation, to make us STILL have to undergo this unconstitutional process in order to regain our vote, then we would be excepted from the proscritional against this unconstitutional tribunal system.

BUT…GUESS WHAT???

The State of Florida passed legislation (FL amendment 4) that requires us to undergo an unconstitutional process (the Governor’s tribunal) in order to attempt to get our rights restored WITHOUT ASSERTING a compelling governmental interest.

When we are forced to appear before the governor’s tribunal to beg for the restoral of our right to vote, our federal constitutional rights are being abridged;
for, the government has not elucidated a compelling interest (Nor can they!)

THIS IS A SLAM DUNK. (If anyone cares to fund-raise and litigate it…)

Wow!
You are totally missing my point.

NARSOL is encouraging the use of the term ‘registered citizen’ vice ‘sex offender’ in that the vast majority of registered citizens are not committing sex re-offenses.

Apparently a member of the public is using the registry as intended— to identify people that are breaking the law. (Not that I agree with them doing so).

True enough. But I think missed my whole point.
A federal judge found the old process of regaining voting right UNCONSTITUTIONAL
If it is unconstitutional for any single person (absent compelling governmental interest) then it is unconstitutional for US! (too)
This would be slam dunk litigation !!!
Hello??? Is anyone listening???