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	Comments on: Proof, proof, proof required for probation violation.	</title>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-2/#comment-32451</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2020 21:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-2/#comment-32450&quot;&gt;WC_TN&lt;/a&gt;.

Or it could go the other way— they will need to be careful about violating him for fear that it will appear in court to have been a reprisal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-2/#comment-32450">WC_TN</a>.</p>
<p>Or it could go the other way— they will need to be careful about violating him for fear that it will appear in court to have been a reprisal.</p>
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		By: WC_TN		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-2/#comment-32450</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WC_TN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2020 18:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A frightening thought just entered my mind: This individual&#039;s victory in court will be viewed by his officer and the department at large as a b**** slap to the face. When have any of you ever known of these people with their mindset to ever be graceful losers in this situation? They think their position should always be the prevailing position and that probationers and parolees should just lay down, shut up, tow the line, and question their authority in no way whatsoever.

I hope I&#039;m wrong, but after thinking on this carefully, I believe now the parole dept. and his officer will now make this man their &quot;pet project&quot; and find any and every excuse to violate him. An honest mistake may well be turned into a provable &quot;violation&quot; that will put him back behind bars yet again. The officers will do so with a smug grin of satisfaction that will ooze of the following sentiment: &quot;You lose! This is what happens and what you deserve when you make fools of us. Maybe this will teach you to keep your worthless mouth shut!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A frightening thought just entered my mind: This individual&#8217;s victory in court will be viewed by his officer and the department at large as a b**** slap to the face. When have any of you ever known of these people with their mindset to ever be graceful losers in this situation? They think their position should always be the prevailing position and that probationers and parolees should just lay down, shut up, tow the line, and question their authority in no way whatsoever.</p>
<p>I hope I&#8217;m wrong, but after thinking on this carefully, I believe now the parole dept. and his officer will now make this man their &#8220;pet project&#8221; and find any and every excuse to violate him. An honest mistake may well be turned into a provable &#8220;violation&#8221; that will put him back behind bars yet again. The officers will do so with a smug grin of satisfaction that will ooze of the following sentiment: &#8220;You lose! This is what happens and what you deserve when you make fools of us. Maybe this will teach you to keep your worthless mouth shut!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Dustin		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32449</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dustin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2020 18:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32446&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

In which case, call that same line and drop the same anonymous tip on her. Or that she&#039;s &quot;grooming&quot; someone in the house. Or that she&#039;s stalking. ENDLESS possibilities.

Good for the goose...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32446">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>In which case, call that same line and drop the same anonymous tip on her. Or that she&#8217;s &#8220;grooming&#8221; someone in the house. Or that she&#8217;s stalking. ENDLESS possibilities.</p>
<p>Good for the goose&#8230;</p>
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		By: WC_TN		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32448</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WC_TN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2020 18:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Awesome! A victory for the cherished principle &quot;Accusation alone does not equal guilt and conviction&quot;. It&#039;s great to see that some judges still have a modicum of honesty about them.

Who will be the first naysayer to claim that probationers/parolees are somehow &quot;victimizing&quot; their officers by forcing them to prove they actually violated a term of probation and parole?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome! A victory for the cherished principle &#8220;Accusation alone does not equal guilt and conviction&#8221;. It&#8217;s great to see that some judges still have a modicum of honesty about them.</p>
<p>Who will be the first naysayer to claim that probationers/parolees are somehow &#8220;victimizing&#8221; their officers by forcing them to prove they actually violated a term of probation and parole?</p>
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		By: JoeM		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32447</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2020 14:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32437&quot;&gt;Bob&lt;/a&gt;.

Of course, that assumes that the other courts will actually follow this allegedly binding precedent at least until such time as the legislature “fixes“ the offending statute and Retroactively applies it to everyone]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32437">Bob</a>.</p>
<p>Of course, that assumes that the other courts will actually follow this allegedly binding precedent at least until such time as the legislature “fixes“ the offending statute and Retroactively applies it to everyone</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2020 02:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32444&quot;&gt;Dustin&lt;/a&gt;.

It was a crime line anonymous tip is what they told me. But I pretty much knew who did it but couldn&#039;t prove it. If you call in a tip, they have to follow up on it regardless of how the person came by the info. 
Crime line became a way to bypass hard evidence to investigate someone. PLUS when you are on probation, they do not need a search warrant if they are with your PO when they enter.

Also funny, child porn had nothing to do with my charges and when I was arrested for the charges to begin with, I did not even own a computer. Only after I got put on probation did I get a computer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32444">Dustin</a>.</p>
<p>It was a crime line anonymous tip is what they told me. But I pretty much knew who did it but couldn&#8217;t prove it. If you call in a tip, they have to follow up on it regardless of how the person came by the info.<br />
Crime line became a way to bypass hard evidence to investigate someone. PLUS when you are on probation, they do not need a search warrant if they are with your PO when they enter.</p>
<p>Also funny, child porn had nothing to do with my charges and when I was arrested for the charges to begin with, I did not even own a computer. Only after I got put on probation did I get a computer.</p>
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		By: Dwayne		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32445</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dwayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2020 00:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32443&quot;&gt;Florida Action Committee&lt;/a&gt;.

It appears RCs post is in the wrong location. I read it to question whether the new ruling from the 2nd DCA of Florida will automatically remove folks on probation in any jurisdiction from the Florida SO registry. His/her post doesn&#039;t seem to be addressing the issue of probation needing to prove a violation per this blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32443">Florida Action Committee</a>.</p>
<p>It appears RCs post is in the wrong location. I read it to question whether the new ruling from the 2nd DCA of Florida will automatically remove folks on probation in any jurisdiction from the Florida SO registry. His/her post doesn&#8217;t seem to be addressing the issue of probation needing to prove a violation per this blog.</p>
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		By: Dustin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dustin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2020 22:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32439&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

@ cherokeejack:

I&#039;d have pressed charges against the lady that tipped them off. Unless she broke into your house and/or computer or was lurking at your windows, how in God&#039;s name could ahe possibly &quot;know&quot; you (supposedly) had &quot;massive amounts of child porn&quot;? Either she&#039;d have to admit to breaking and entering or that she made it all up to get you off her block.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32439">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>@ cherokeejack:</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have pressed charges against the lady that tipped them off. Unless she broke into your house and/or computer or was lurking at your windows, how in God&#8217;s name could ahe possibly &#8220;know&#8221; you (supposedly) had &#8220;massive amounts of child porn&#8221;? Either she&#8217;d have to admit to breaking and entering or that she made it all up to get you off her block.</p>
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		By: Florida Action Committee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Florida Action Committee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2020 22:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32442&quot;&gt;RC on Liftime Federal Probation&lt;/a&gt;.

No, it does not mean that. I&#039;m not sure how you made that assumption.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/proof-proof-proof-required-for-probation-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-32442">RC on Liftime Federal Probation</a>.</p>
<p>No, it does not mean that. I&#8217;m not sure how you made that assumption.</p>
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		By: RC on Liftime Federal Probation		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RC on Liftime Federal Probation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2020 21:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FAC, does this mean that RCs on probation as shown in registration information will be automatically removed from the registry by FDLE?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FAC, does this mean that RCs on probation as shown in registration information will be automatically removed from the registry by FDLE?</p>
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