I should also add the fact that the registry is confinement though outside the cinder block house with bars. I know there is a case fighting for this fact currently, IIRC.

Dustin

No one can tell us why the registry is not considered punishment, but if you make a mistake, you are arrested for something that is so called not punishment? By their standards that what they are saying, is you can go into a store, but if you rob the store you get arrested? I don’t buy it. It is either punishment or it isn’t. The law is not worth the paper it is written on because it is an oxymoron. (Oxymoron is a figure of speech that pairs two opposing or contradictory words together.)

Even those in power who kind of side with us have little power unless others get on board, which is seen as “Being weak or sympathetic to sex offenders”. BTW, why are we still called sex offenders if we have not offended in years or even decades? Is someone who broke into a house 50 years ago still a burglar?

Perhaps first time sex offenders don’t know about the risk of ending up on the list before committing an illegal act with a minor. Or the risk was so enticing first time offenders didn’t care if they were caught and added to the registry after conviction.

Don’t forget to ask why the registry does not prevent first time offenders from offending the first time…thought it was supposed to scare people straight outta doing a sex crime.

Re: “Then they turn around and say, Well the registry keeps you in check and without it you would re-offend.” Ask them why in the few and far between occasions where a registrant commits another ACTUAL sex crime, the accused is always registry-compliant.

I’ve yet to run across a story about a recidivating registrant where the accused is also charged with a concurrent registry violation. The closest I’ve seen is where someone was registered for a sex crime committed 30 years ago, got hit with a few violations in the 90s and 2000s (notably when violations were all but impossible to avoid) and caught the new charge recently. Point being the registrant was perfectly compliant at the time of the new charge.

I may try to communicate that to the ACLU and try to get them to make that point in their case in Michigan. As well as to argue the precedent that holds that a constitutionally questionable law must actually accomplish what it was enacted to do when assessing constitutionality. SOSEN had it in their archives, but I can’t recall the case.

I completely agree. You reap what you sow.

Nemo

I live alone so that I do not have my family being harassed. They live in a different county but since I am not on probation, I am allowed to go to their county but law enforcement in their county is a lot more aggressive than where I live so I have to make sure I do not stand out in a crowd or traffic.

Wouldn’t want to get a ticket for “Driving while on the registry”. Not funny but at the same time hilarious in a way because of the stupid laws that hold people down who have done their time decades ago. I assume, me and others whose crime were 20, 30 or even 40 years ago, and have not reoffended, are we just waiting for the right victim to come along? Just pure ridiculousness.

When it comes to the registry there seems ZERO logic applied as we are all thrown in one basket of eggs, oranges and cauliflower. Even though we do have a somewhat tiered system, no matter the serious or not too serious crime, it is very hard for any of us to be removed from the registry, even those who just viewed photos online and never physically met or touched a live person, which almost means there was no victim in a sense. (Not downplaying someone having their photos posted online without their consent, especially underaged or those who were trafficked.)

Finally, why the path off the registry very seldom materialized due to several factors. One being not having the funds to petition for removal, and secondly, losing that money if you are denied. And in some instances, if you are denied, it is unlikely you will get another chance. And even if you did get a second chance, where is that second round of money coming from?

Mercy, prayers, thoughts and love to all my fellow registrants and their families. Stay and stand strong, if not for yourselves, then for your loved ones. The battle has not been won, but we also have not lost faith or backed down.

@CherokeeJack

I wish you all the success with that letter writing campaign and hope someone reads it who is touched by it as they need to be. They need to be made aware of what it could feel like if it was to hit close to home or at their home literally.

For the registry to be: 1) declared non-punitive though non-legislative declaration despite what reality is happens to be very crazy in thought, 2) allowed to be ex-post facto applied is mind numbing, and 3) overall Constitutional given its application and impact is mind blowing. This goes to your judicial point and bewilderment the justices and judges show with their lack of critical thinking overall on the topic. The judicial system needs a big reset IMHO.

Sounds like it’s best not to pick up any information that could harm you or your family.

Their hubris will be their downfall as we are already seeing, sadly.