Comments on: Results of Harper v. Glass Order beginning October 1, 2024

By: JZ

JZ — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:05:23 +0000

Why is FAC stating that the Harper v. Glass Order goes into effect on October 1st?

The order was signed on March 25th requiring FDLE to make online access for in-state travel reporting available within 60 days. That would make it effective on May 24th or 25th.

Please clarify.

By: Tearfuleagle

Tearfuleagle — Sun, 21 Apr 2024 19:24:47 +0000

In reply to Jacob. J toatly understand what you are saying I just wish we had in writing from fdle and or the people who wrote that bill that we do not have to report those above mentioned places. I know I know perfect world scenario lol

By: Jacob

Jacob — Sat, 20 Apr 2024 20:24:42 +0000

In reply to tearfuleagle.

tearfuleagle’s question I think refers to HB1235.

A residence, as FAC has pointed out in the HB1235 topic, is defined as a place where one abides, lodges, or resides.

That would tend to exclude places such as church services, gas stations, grocery stores, sport events, daytime visits, gyms, restaurants, and Target, among others.

A more expansive bill, appearing to define residence more broadly, was introduced several legislative seasons ago and, thanks partly to our efforts, defeated.

If any registration office instructs someone to register any of the above as a residence, we would definitely like to know the details.

By: tearfuleagle

tearfuleagle — Sat, 20 Apr 2024 18:55:50 +0000

Once again with October 1st fast approaching we really need clarification on Church services, Gas Stations, Grocery Stores, Sport Events, Friends and Families for visits (not over night stays), Gyms, Places of Employment, Restaurants, Target, Etc. I know I keep asking this but this is the tricky part of this. No where that I can see is any of the above addressed. Now logic says that going to any of the above does not constitute a “Residence” but we know that logic does not come into play.

Not sure why legislatures just can not use plain language. IE “Permanant, Temporary, and Transient Residence means any address that a PFR sleeps over night intends to sleep overnight or may sleep overnight.

The first day of arrival does not count. So the PFR has Day 2 and Day 3 to stay without triggering registration. However if the PFR stays past midnight on Day 3 going into Day 4 then registration would be required”

“For example if a PFR travels to Key Largo and arrives Friday at 8 am Friday does not count as a “day”. If the PFR stays Friday night and Staturday night no issues. For Sunday, they have until 11:59 Pm to leave. Should the PFR leave at 12:01 Am on Monday Registration is triggered.”

Can we pose the above to the creaters of the Bill and FDLE for Clarification before September 1st 2024.

By: RayO

RayO — Tue, 16 Apr 2024 18:15:13 +0000

A reminder that, per statute, neither in-state nor out-of-state travel needs to be reported to law enforcement at all (via web or in person), unless you are planning to establish a “residence”, as defined by the 943 statute. And another reminder that, if an officer doesn’t know or care about the statute, you could still be arrested and have to fight things out in court. I am NOT a lawyer.