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	Comments on: Ron Book, &#8216;Average homeless person lives 13 to 17 years fewer&#8217;	</title>
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	<description>Reforming Florida’s Sex Offender Registry Laws</description>
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		By: Florida Action Committee		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-3/#comment-39593</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Florida Action Committee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2021 17:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-3/#comment-39589&quot;&gt;Jacob&lt;/a&gt;.

At this time they are not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-3/#comment-39589">Jacob</a>.</p>
<p>At this time they are not.</p>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-39592</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2021 16:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-39591&quot;&gt;Facts should matter&lt;/a&gt;.

Some illegal immigrants would accept registration status in exchange for citizenship.

It’s absurd to imagine that such a swap would be available. But we won’t win this battle by throwing other unpopular groups under the bus.  I have not walked in the shoes of an illegal immigrant, and do not wish to.

As Guy Hamilton-Smith put it, the two populations that seem entirely out of reach of the Constitution and its protections, are illegal immigrants and registered sex offenders.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-39591">Facts should matter</a>.</p>
<p>Some illegal immigrants would accept registration status in exchange for citizenship.</p>
<p>It’s absurd to imagine that such a swap would be available. But we won’t win this battle by throwing other unpopular groups under the bus.  I have not walked in the shoes of an illegal immigrant, and do not wish to.</p>
<p>As Guy Hamilton-Smith put it, the two populations that seem entirely out of reach of the Constitution and its protections, are illegal immigrants and registered sex offenders.</p>
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		By: Facts should matter		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-39591</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Facts should matter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2021 15:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-39556&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Illegal immigrants seem to have more rights than those on the registry.&quot;

Ironically, they actually do. After 5 years, they can apply for citizenship and their stigma is somewhat diminished while we&#039;re still denied hope with nothing to look forwards to. They&#039;re not reverse engineered to be the boogeyman the way WE ARE. They&#039;re just a sideshow around election time, but we&#039;re the main attraction year-round.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-39556">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Illegal immigrants seem to have more rights than those on the registry.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ironically, they actually do. After 5 years, they can apply for citizenship and their stigma is somewhat diminished while we&#8217;re still denied hope with nothing to look forwards to. They&#8217;re not reverse engineered to be the boogeyman the way WE ARE. They&#8217;re just a sideshow around election time, but we&#8217;re the main attraction year-round.</p>
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		By: Facts should matter		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-3/#comment-39590</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Facts should matter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2021 15:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Book is a smart idiot.

Of course it&#039;s a silent genocide, but they continue to play dumb with the &quot;public safety&quot; argument.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Book is a smart idiot.</p>
<p>Of course it&#8217;s a silent genocide, but they continue to play dumb with the &#8220;public safety&#8221; argument.</p>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-3/#comment-39589</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2021 19:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-3/#comment-39583&quot;&gt;CMC&lt;/a&gt;.

FAC, I thought Miami SORR case was lost on a technicality. Doesn’t the above suggest otherwise?

Either way, is ACLU not planning on filing an as-applied challenge?]]></description>
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<p>FAC, I thought Miami SORR case was lost on a technicality. Doesn’t the above suggest otherwise?</p>
<p>Either way, is ACLU not planning on filing an as-applied challenge?</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-39588</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2021 18:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-39585&quot;&gt;AC&lt;/a&gt;.

AC

Florida has a history of bigotry and discrimintion. The Confederacy was strong here as well as the clan. A lot of the counties here (We have 67 counties) have Sheriffs that run sting operations was carte blanc posing as underaged and then posting those pictures on the news.

Years ago I saw a case where fake drugs were used in a sting. A court found that the arresttee could not be charged because when they finished the transaction, they did not actually buy drugs but flour (For cocain) or shiny rocks (For meth) etc.

So how come when a cop pretends to be an underage person you are charged with meeting an underage person? The answer is simple, the damn courts are hypocrites and are violating their own oaths by putting personal feelings ahead of justice.

None of us (hopefully) are saying sex crimes are ok. We are just asking for equal justice under the law. Which is our rights we are denied.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-39585">AC</a>.</p>
<p>AC</p>
<p>Florida has a history of bigotry and discrimintion. The Confederacy was strong here as well as the clan. A lot of the counties here (We have 67 counties) have Sheriffs that run sting operations was carte blanc posing as underaged and then posting those pictures on the news.</p>
<p>Years ago I saw a case where fake drugs were used in a sting. A court found that the arresttee could not be charged because when they finished the transaction, they did not actually buy drugs but flour (For cocain) or shiny rocks (For meth) etc.</p>
<p>So how come when a cop pretends to be an underage person you are charged with meeting an underage person? The answer is simple, the damn courts are hypocrites and are violating their own oaths by putting personal feelings ahead of justice.</p>
<p>None of us (hopefully) are saying sex crimes are ok. We are just asking for equal justice under the law. Which is our rights we are denied.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-3/#comment-39587</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2021 18:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-3/#comment-39583&quot;&gt;CMC&lt;/a&gt;.

CMC

I went through one of those treatment programs when I was on probation. I was one of the lucky ones as I had group therapy. When others shyed away from talking, I always volunteered to talk and share.

After about 4 months, I was graduated from the class. The therapist spoke on my behalf that I was no more a danger to the public than any other citizen. That alone got the rest of my sentence thrown out.

Having said that, the type of therapy you speak of is more of a mind melding that I think makes things worse. Especially if they throw everyone into the same classification. A 20s something guy who slept with his 15 year old girl friend is different than somebody who picks up small children and rapes them.

Now both are illegal. Both are wrong. Both are treated the same and have to register for life. We are basically the only grouping of offenders who they do this to.

What is even more odd, one day seperates if you have to register or not. My Crime was 1991. Registry started here in 1997. I was still in probation in 1997. Someone who committed a sex crime in 1992 but got off probation a day before the registry started in 1997 is Scott free, other than still have a record.

Some poor sap who committed a sex crime in 1970 and gets released in 1998, has to register I suppose. I think when lawyers go in to fight these illegal registry retro active applications, the judges hear &quot;Blah blah blah&quot; while they file their nails or listen to a podcast of the sports scores.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-3/#comment-39583">CMC</a>.</p>
<p>CMC</p>
<p>I went through one of those treatment programs when I was on probation. I was one of the lucky ones as I had group therapy. When others shyed away from talking, I always volunteered to talk and share.</p>
<p>After about 4 months, I was graduated from the class. The therapist spoke on my behalf that I was no more a danger to the public than any other citizen. That alone got the rest of my sentence thrown out.</p>
<p>Having said that, the type of therapy you speak of is more of a mind melding that I think makes things worse. Especially if they throw everyone into the same classification. A 20s something guy who slept with his 15 year old girl friend is different than somebody who picks up small children and rapes them.</p>
<p>Now both are illegal. Both are wrong. Both are treated the same and have to register for life. We are basically the only grouping of offenders who they do this to.</p>
<p>What is even more odd, one day seperates if you have to register or not. My Crime was 1991. Registry started here in 1997. I was still in probation in 1997. Someone who committed a sex crime in 1992 but got off probation a day before the registry started in 1997 is Scott free, other than still have a record.</p>
<p>Some poor sap who committed a sex crime in 1970 and gets released in 1998, has to register I suppose. I think when lawyers go in to fight these illegal registry retro active applications, the judges hear &#8220;Blah blah blah&#8221; while they file their nails or listen to a podcast of the sports scores.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-3/#comment-39586</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2021 18:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-3/#comment-39581&quot;&gt;CMC&lt;/a&gt;.

CMC

Are you not able to make it to another county? Some counties in Florida are not as harsh. I heard some counties in Central Florida are more forgiving since there is such a large population of offenders in that area.]]></description>
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<p>CMC</p>
<p>Are you not able to make it to another county? Some counties in Florida are not as harsh. I heard some counties in Central Florida are more forgiving since there is such a large population of offenders in that area.</p>
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		By: AC		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-39585</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2021 15:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-39558&quot;&gt;Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com&lt;/a&gt;.

Derek:

Thank you! I have said it here before. You cannot compare California and Florida. Completely two different political and social animals. Apples and Oranges. We have amazing and capable attorneys here that have accomplished the impossible at times,(including my own, who had my probation terminated successfully even against impossible odds) but Florida will not budge an inch when it comes to residency restrictions and the registry. If the registry and residency restrictions ceases to exist one day, Florida will be the last state to do so. Nothing against Janice either and she has done amazingly in California, but you can have a dream team of 10 Janice&#039;s taking on Florida and she will lose even before she steps into the courts. It is by far one of the most corrupted, if not,  the most corrupted state in the entire union at all levels of government. She can try and I will be there rooting for her of course, but I&#039;m a realist as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-39558">Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com</a>.</p>
<p>Derek:</p>
<p>Thank you! I have said it here before. You cannot compare California and Florida. Completely two different political and social animals. Apples and Oranges. We have amazing and capable attorneys here that have accomplished the impossible at times,(including my own, who had my probation terminated successfully even against impossible odds) but Florida will not budge an inch when it comes to residency restrictions and the registry. If the registry and residency restrictions ceases to exist one day, Florida will be the last state to do so. Nothing against Janice either and she has done amazingly in California, but you can have a dream team of 10 Janice&#8217;s taking on Florida and she will lose even before she steps into the courts. It is by far one of the most corrupted, if not,  the most corrupted state in the entire union at all levels of government. She can try and I will be there rooting for her of course, but I&#8217;m a realist as well.</p>
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		By: Linda		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-3/#comment-39584</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Linda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2021 13:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-3/#comment-39570&quot;&gt;Detroit&lt;/a&gt;.

So true i am not one of register people but you have it lots of dump reason to put people on but guess what if they would do registery for all crimes including government official law enforcement then people might open eyes these officials are just for themselves espeacially now think they can do everything but yes need people to fight back]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ron-book-average-homeless-person-lives-13-to-17-years-fewer/comment-page-3/#comment-39570">Detroit</a>.</p>
<p>So true i am not one of register people but you have it lots of dump reason to put people on but guess what if they would do registery for all crimes including government official law enforcement then people might open eyes these officials are just for themselves espeacially now think they can do everything but yes need people to fight back</p>
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