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		By: Capt Charles Munsey Jr. USN (Ret)		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-2/#comment-14385</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Capt Charles Munsey Jr. USN (Ret)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2018 13:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What bothers many of us is the realization of how vulnerable the justice system seems to be to manipulation.  Many wonder if real justice is even possible anymore.  It seems as though in simpler times issues were more clear-cut and justice, along with its companion liberty, was available to all.  Justice, however, is not merely a victim of clever and diabolical minds in the modern and postmodern world. Justice is ultimately a hard needle to thread, because we live in a world that is inherently unjust...a fact that was proven in a thoroughly rigged trial two thousand years ago when the Righteous Judge of the earth was tried in a kangaroo court and found guilty on trumped-up charges through the testimony of false &#039;experts&#039;.  Jesus had declared Annas and his &#039;religious&#039; crowd corrupt and apostate.  His accusers had allowed their own personal goals and agenda dictate the final outcome.  Roman leaders, previous enemies, had forged a friendship out of injustice, convenience, and expediency.  Politicians do the same thing nowadays.  One of this nation&#039;s greatest leaders, Abraham Lincoln, did what he thought was right, knowing it might cost him half the nation.  Many of today&#039;s politicians don&#039;t do what is right because they think it might cost them votes.  Choices under pressure reveal character.  If leadership is to accomplish anything, it must display true depth of character...character that is called upon in times of crisis.  Many politicians today fear people...voters...more than God.  Perhaps that is why there is such an absence of justice in our culture today...we dismissed justice from the cultural landscape when we determined to be a &#039;truth optional&#039; society.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What bothers many of us is the realization of how vulnerable the justice system seems to be to manipulation.  Many wonder if real justice is even possible anymore.  It seems as though in simpler times issues were more clear-cut and justice, along with its companion liberty, was available to all.  Justice, however, is not merely a victim of clever and diabolical minds in the modern and postmodern world. Justice is ultimately a hard needle to thread, because we live in a world that is inherently unjust&#8230;a fact that was proven in a thoroughly rigged trial two thousand years ago when the Righteous Judge of the earth was tried in a kangaroo court and found guilty on trumped-up charges through the testimony of false &#8216;experts&#8217;.  Jesus had declared Annas and his &#8216;religious&#8217; crowd corrupt and apostate.  His accusers had allowed their own personal goals and agenda dictate the final outcome.  Roman leaders, previous enemies, had forged a friendship out of injustice, convenience, and expediency.  Politicians do the same thing nowadays.  One of this nation&#8217;s greatest leaders, Abraham Lincoln, did what he thought was right, knowing it might cost him half the nation.  Many of today&#8217;s politicians don&#8217;t do what is right because they think it might cost them votes.  Choices under pressure reveal character.  If leadership is to accomplish anything, it must display true depth of character&#8230;character that is called upon in times of crisis.  Many politicians today fear people&#8230;voters&#8230;more than God.  Perhaps that is why there is such an absence of justice in our culture today&#8230;we dismissed justice from the cultural landscape when we determined to be a &#8216;truth optional&#8217; society.</p>
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		By: Nicholas Maietta		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-2/#comment-14384</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicholas Maietta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 16:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-2/#comment-14383&quot;&gt;Will Bassler&lt;/a&gt;.

Will, I agree. These websites who have a one sided opinion with no user interaction from the general public should not be considered a source for information and should be suppressed from distribution as they are not legitimate sources for information. CDCR for example is a legititate organization which knows first hand the numbers and thus as a government agency is required to share that information with the public and so we can take it for what it is at face value. We can&#039;t trust CDCR completely so why would we trust a news website or random blog more? We shouldn&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-2/#comment-14383">Will Bassler</a>.</p>
<p>Will, I agree. These websites who have a one sided opinion with no user interaction from the general public should not be considered a source for information and should be suppressed from distribution as they are not legitimate sources for information. CDCR for example is a legititate organization which knows first hand the numbers and thus as a government agency is required to share that information with the public and so we can take it for what it is at face value. We can&#8217;t trust CDCR completely so why would we trust a news website or random blog more? We shouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: Will Bassler		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-2/#comment-14383</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will Bassler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2018 21:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay have done years of research and spent a lot of times writing articles about re-offense rates. The way this came across really upset me so, I thought I would leave a comment, nope you can’t do that so then I thought I would do the normal things that I do which is contact the author and the editor and send them actual facts. Guess what No way to contact them through the article. So I went to the contact page for the website which turns out to be great if I want to buy some water or fruit or sign up for their newsletters. But there is no contact person this is quite obviously a hack website and this information should be pulled from all advocate websites, we don’t need to promote the higher re-offense rates that they are professing, People on the registry have a re-offense rate of less than 1% in any given year. Studies that look at subgroups of people on the registry do a great disservice to all advocates. Everybody that is on the registry is affected by the laws thereby only studies that look at everybody on a registry rather it is state or national is the only way to evaluate the actual re-offense rates for the registry and in this study should only use reconviction rates. If you want accurate information about the re-offense rate go to SOSEN.org and look through the older articles on our front page for example http://sosen.org/blog/2017/09/16/what-is-a-valid-evaluation-or-study-of-recidivism.html or http://sosen.org/blog/2017/06/26/so-why-are-the-reconviction-rates-so-important-2.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay have done years of research and spent a lot of times writing articles about re-offense rates. The way this came across really upset me so, I thought I would leave a comment, nope you can’t do that so then I thought I would do the normal things that I do which is contact the author and the editor and send them actual facts. Guess what No way to contact them through the article. So I went to the contact page for the website which turns out to be great if I want to buy some water or fruit or sign up for their newsletters. But there is no contact person this is quite obviously a hack website and this information should be pulled from all advocate websites, we don’t need to promote the higher re-offense rates that they are professing, People on the registry have a re-offense rate of less than 1% in any given year. Studies that look at subgroups of people on the registry do a great disservice to all advocates. Everybody that is on the registry is affected by the laws thereby only studies that look at everybody on a registry rather it is state or national is the only way to evaluate the actual re-offense rates for the registry and in this study should only use reconviction rates. If you want accurate information about the re-offense rate go to SOSEN.org and look through the older articles on our front page for example <a href="http://sosen.org/blog/2017/09/16/what-is-a-valid-evaluation-or-study-of-recidivism.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://sosen.org/blog/2017/09/16/what-is-a-valid-evaluation-or-study-of-recidivism.html</a> or <a href="http://sosen.org/blog/2017/06/26/so-why-are-the-reconviction-rates-so-important-2.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://sosen.org/blog/2017/06/26/so-why-are-the-reconviction-rates-so-important-2.html</a></p>
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		By: Joe123		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-14382</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe123]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2018 21:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-14378&quot;&gt;Florida Action Committee&lt;/a&gt;.

Gail,

Based on the email conversation I had with Ron, his &#039;core&#039; reason for why he doesn&#039;t want to believe any scientific studies is all because he thinks sex abuse is completely underreported. We both know that even if we assume 300-400% more sexual abuse of any kind versus the statistics, this still places these types of crimes at the bottom of re-offense rates compared to other crimes. I am not sure what further rebuttal there is for his skewed views.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-14378">Florida Action Committee</a>.</p>
<p>Gail,</p>
<p>Based on the email conversation I had with Ron, his &#8216;core&#8217; reason for why he doesn&#8217;t want to believe any scientific studies is all because he thinks sex abuse is completely underreported. We both know that even if we assume 300-400% more sexual abuse of any kind versus the statistics, this still places these types of crimes at the bottom of re-offense rates compared to other crimes. I am not sure what further rebuttal there is for his skewed views.</p>
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		By: M		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-2/#comment-14381</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2018 20:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-2/#comment-14380&quot;&gt;Tired Of Being Mistreated&lt;/a&gt;.

Under the 14th amendment laws have to have a rational based. Given all of these studies about recidivism to my thinking there is no threat to public safety therefore no rational bases for these laws. It is my understanding that is a substitutive due process claim. Justice Hardin in a dissenting opinion arguement in the slaughter house case in 1877 established the concept of substantive due process has been used in the 1954 brown case and other cases before the court to over turn laws. The sixth circuit use it to declare the Michigan law unconstitutional. These are civil regulations and should be challenged on the bases of them not being rational therefore having not just cause for their existence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-2/#comment-14380">Tired Of Being Mistreated</a>.</p>
<p>Under the 14th amendment laws have to have a rational based. Given all of these studies about recidivism to my thinking there is no threat to public safety therefore no rational bases for these laws. It is my understanding that is a substitutive due process claim. Justice Hardin in a dissenting opinion arguement in the slaughter house case in 1877 established the concept of substantive due process has been used in the 1954 brown case and other cases before the court to over turn laws. The sixth circuit use it to declare the Michigan law unconstitutional. These are civil regulations and should be challenged on the bases of them not being rational therefore having not just cause for their existence.</p>
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		By: Tired Of Being Mistreated		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-2/#comment-14380</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tired Of Being Mistreated]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2018 19:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Since it&#039;s been proven time and time again that Sex Offenders have the LOWEST REOFFENCE RATE of all crimes, And Book and others continue to LIE about us, Couldn&#039;t we all File a Defamation of Character lawsuit against him and everyone else spewing these LIES ?? I mean this is Florida and Defamation is still Against the law here !!. Why can&#039;t we start using Florida against itself ???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since it&#8217;s been proven time and time again that Sex Offenders have the LOWEST REOFFENCE RATE of all crimes, And Book and others continue to LIE about us, Couldn&#8217;t we all File a Defamation of Character lawsuit against him and everyone else spewing these LIES ?? I mean this is Florida and Defamation is still Against the law here !!. Why can&#8217;t we start using Florida against itself ???</p>
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		By: Crooked Ron Book Lies!		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-14379</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crooked Ron Book Lies!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2018 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-14378&quot;&gt;Florida Action Committee&lt;/a&gt;.

FAC you are 100% correct just as I pointed out in another post he may actually be continuing his criminal activities of what may be fraud depending on Florida and US Laws since he darn well knows the statistics even his daughter has them posted on her website that he also profits from!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-14378">Florida Action Committee</a>.</p>
<p>FAC you are 100% correct just as I pointed out in another post he may actually be continuing his criminal activities of what may be fraud depending on Florida and US Laws since he darn well knows the statistics even his daughter has them posted on her website that he also profits from!</p>
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		By: Florida Action Committee		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-14378</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Florida Action Committee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2018 15:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-14371&quot;&gt;Tired Of Being Mistreated&lt;/a&gt;.

He doesn&#039;t genuinely believe in this, any more than he believes in puppy mills. He benefits financially from his client (GEO Group) getting government contracts for incarceration and monitoring and his daughter&#039;s charity (Lauren&#039;s Kids) getting money from the state. 
The only way he can get away with passing the laws and getting the state funding is if he does his fear mongering shtick. 
Of course he wouldn&#039;t mind if registrants get locked up forever, GEO gets paid to lock them up! More money for him. 
Of course he needs to make everyone fearful of the boogey man. That&#039;s how his kid&#039;s charity gets millions from the State.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-14371">Tired Of Being Mistreated</a>.</p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t genuinely believe in this, any more than he believes in puppy mills. He benefits financially from his client (GEO Group) getting government contracts for incarceration and monitoring and his daughter&#8217;s charity (Lauren&#8217;s Kids) getting money from the state.<br />
The only way he can get away with passing the laws and getting the state funding is if he does his fear mongering shtick.<br />
Of course he wouldn&#8217;t mind if registrants get locked up forever, GEO gets paid to lock them up! More money for him.<br />
Of course he needs to make everyone fearful of the boogey man. That&#8217;s how his kid&#8217;s charity gets millions from the State.</p>
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		By: C		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-2/#comment-14377</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2018 15:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t fully understand the sample sizes used in these studies.  The State curates a list of every KNOWN sex offender and their pertinent sexual convictions.

A quick Google search says Florida is home (you and I know the registry contains many people who haven&#039;t been to Florida for years though) to 69,654 registered sex offenders.

So of those almost 70,000 people you would select any offenders with more than one unique conviction date.

Those with successive conviction dates would then have to be researched to filter out offenders who were subsequently convicted of offenses predating their first sexual conviction.

What you&#039;d be left with is a list of all KNOWN sex offenders who were determined by the state to have beyond a shadow of a doubt committed a new sexual crime and at what interval.

All recidivism would be measured from the point the state officially intervened in an offenders life.

The difference between statistics and probability is that statistics uses a sample to extrapolate a trend in a community whereas probability uses a known community to determine the likelihood that one member of or a sample will have certain trait.

The state has identified 100% of all convicted sex offenders on any given day but researchers are trying to forward predict the recidivism of the whole from a sample instead of backwards calculate the probability from the known data.

Don&#039;t ask me though, I just passed statistics, I don&#039;t do it for a living.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t fully understand the sample sizes used in these studies.  The State curates a list of every KNOWN sex offender and their pertinent sexual convictions.</p>
<p>A quick Google search says Florida is home (you and I know the registry contains many people who haven&#8217;t been to Florida for years though) to 69,654 registered sex offenders.</p>
<p>So of those almost 70,000 people you would select any offenders with more than one unique conviction date.</p>
<p>Those with successive conviction dates would then have to be researched to filter out offenders who were subsequently convicted of offenses predating their first sexual conviction.</p>
<p>What you&#8217;d be left with is a list of all KNOWN sex offenders who were determined by the state to have beyond a shadow of a doubt committed a new sexual crime and at what interval.</p>
<p>All recidivism would be measured from the point the state officially intervened in an offenders life.</p>
<p>The difference between statistics and probability is that statistics uses a sample to extrapolate a trend in a community whereas probability uses a known community to determine the likelihood that one member of or a sample will have certain trait.</p>
<p>The state has identified 100% of all convicted sex offenders on any given day but researchers are trying to forward predict the recidivism of the whole from a sample instead of backwards calculate the probability from the known data.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t ask me though, I just passed statistics, I don&#8217;t do it for a living.</p>
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		By: Sean		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-recidivism-fact-based-research-statistics/comment-page-2/#comment-14376</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2018 15:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FAC,
 Actual studies and FACTS are such pesky little things. Ron will keep &quot;denying &#038; deflecting&quot; what the truth actually says because it doesnt advance HIS narrative.
Poor, sad little man Ron Book.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FAC,<br />
 Actual studies and FACTS are such pesky little things. Ron will keep &#8220;denying &amp; deflecting&#8221; what the truth actually says because it doesnt advance HIS narrative.<br />
Poor, sad little man Ron Book.</p>
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