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	Comments on: Sex offender revamp in works under state bill	</title>
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	<description>Reforming Florida’s Sex Offender Registry Laws</description>
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		By: Jv		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6762</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jv]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2017 06:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thrown in one pot says it all as far as Florida. I may be a RSO but I&#039;m afraid of any repeat Predator just like anyone else. My crime is not even a crime in several States. Florida will have jurisdiction over me until I die. Lawyers tell me to move. Lawyers just say forget it. Your stuck.  Lawyers just say shut up and be compliant. Florida is the worst and years behind California in human rights laws.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thrown in one pot says it all as far as Florida. I may be a RSO but I&#8217;m afraid of any repeat Predator just like anyone else. My crime is not even a crime in several States. Florida will have jurisdiction over me until I die. Lawyers tell me to move. Lawyers just say forget it. Your stuck.  Lawyers just say shut up and be compliant. Florida is the worst and years behind California in human rights laws.</p>
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		By: les		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6761</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[les]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2017 17:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6756&quot;&gt;Reformed Sex Offender&lt;/a&gt;.

I appreciate the reply, but it doesn&#039;t address the nature of the question.
The misconception that i struggle with is the logic that a registry PROTECTS anyone. And this is the logic often used to fuel the fire for the registry and other things that are actually punitive as you noted.
So, just clarifying, my post wasn&#039;t so much about whether a registry (PRIVATE - for law enforcement) is useful, isn&#039;t at all the question. the question that maddens me is, how does it PROTECT anyone? Having John Doe&#039;s name on a list somewhere doesn&#039;t protect against John Doe performing an illegal act.  The fact that recidivism exists at all for any criminal who has their name on some registry, shows that this logic isn&#039;t sound.
Other arguments for having a registry (public or private) are fine, happy to hear them, but this argument that a registry &#039;offers protection&#039; in any way needs to be attacked so it will stop being used and considered as valid arguments in news posts or by legislators.
Thanks for comments - I&#039;m just clarifying the original question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6756">Reformed Sex Offender</a>.</p>
<p>I appreciate the reply, but it doesn&#8217;t address the nature of the question.<br />
The misconception that i struggle with is the logic that a registry PROTECTS anyone. And this is the logic often used to fuel the fire for the registry and other things that are actually punitive as you noted.<br />
So, just clarifying, my post wasn&#8217;t so much about whether a registry (PRIVATE &#8211; for law enforcement) is useful, isn&#8217;t at all the question. the question that maddens me is, how does it PROTECT anyone? Having John Doe&#8217;s name on a list somewhere doesn&#8217;t protect against John Doe performing an illegal act.  The fact that recidivism exists at all for any criminal who has their name on some registry, shows that this logic isn&#8217;t sound.<br />
Other arguments for having a registry (public or private) are fine, happy to hear them, but this argument that a registry &#8216;offers protection&#8217; in any way needs to be attacked so it will stop being used and considered as valid arguments in news posts or by legislators.<br />
Thanks for comments &#8211; I&#8217;m just clarifying the original question.</p>
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		By: Capt Charles Munsey Jr. USN (Ret)		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6760</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Capt Charles Munsey Jr. USN (Ret)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2017 17:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6758&quot;&gt;Debbie Shaw&lt;/a&gt;.

What I am having a difficult time comprehending is how a law in one part of the country can be found unconstitutional and yet not unconstitutional in other parts of the nation?  Aren&#039;t we all supposed to be one people, one nation under the same laws?  When we can observe daily just how fouled up the nation is in so many areas of life, it&#039;s no wonder sex offender laws are so confused and lacking in purpose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6758">Debbie Shaw</a>.</p>
<p>What I am having a difficult time comprehending is how a law in one part of the country can be found unconstitutional and yet not unconstitutional in other parts of the nation?  Aren&#8217;t we all supposed to be one people, one nation under the same laws?  When we can observe daily just how fouled up the nation is in so many areas of life, it&#8217;s no wonder sex offender laws are so confused and lacking in purpose.</p>
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		By: Reformed Sex Offender		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6759</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reformed Sex Offender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2017 16:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6758&quot;&gt;Debbie Shaw&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, that is true Debbie, which makes it redundant to have a separate system just for sex offenders. It consumes valuable time, funds and resources that could be used to actually prevent new crimes instead of persecuting reformed sex offenders!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6758">Debbie Shaw</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, that is true Debbie, which makes it redundant to have a separate system just for sex offenders. It consumes valuable time, funds and resources that could be used to actually prevent new crimes instead of persecuting reformed sex offenders!</p>
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		By: Debbie Shaw		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6758</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie Shaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2017 16:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6756&quot;&gt;Reformed Sex Offender&lt;/a&gt;.

Probation and parole already keep track of their offenders and they even have their own public registry display with the dept of corrections where you can search for offenders that are currently serving a sentence. But why must it be post sentence for some ? That I don&#039;t agree.  If someone was that dangerous then give them a longer sentence &quot;BUT&quot; via the courts with due process and not by the government&#039;s hand. The government can pass punishing and sentencing laws, but the government cannot sentence you. That&#039;s why we have courts for and have due process. Once someone finishes their sentence, then they shouldn&#039;t be subject to anything - period!. If they re-offend, you punish them again to an appropriate sentence in accordance with the law. Nobody should finish a sentence and then the government gives you another sentence without due process. It is ridiculous and tyrannical. It is punishment in the guise of a regulatory scheme.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6756">Reformed Sex Offender</a>.</p>
<p>Probation and parole already keep track of their offenders and they even have their own public registry display with the dept of corrections where you can search for offenders that are currently serving a sentence. But why must it be post sentence for some ? That I don&#8217;t agree.  If someone was that dangerous then give them a longer sentence &#8220;BUT&#8221; via the courts with due process and not by the government&#8217;s hand. The government can pass punishing and sentencing laws, but the government cannot sentence you. That&#8217;s why we have courts for and have due process. Once someone finishes their sentence, then they shouldn&#8217;t be subject to anything &#8211; period!. If they re-offend, you punish them again to an appropriate sentence in accordance with the law. Nobody should finish a sentence and then the government gives you another sentence without due process. It is ridiculous and tyrannical. It is punishment in the guise of a regulatory scheme.</p>
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		By: Capt Charles Munsey Jr. USN (Ret)		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6757</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Capt Charles Munsey Jr. USN (Ret)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It would appear that some offenders are more capable of expressing common sense that many of our &quot;do-gooder&quot; legislators.  We must keep the pressure on until the truth sinks in and live lives that are exemplary to our message.  It&#039;s not easy but can be done.  I find myself angry at every new offense &#039;plastered&#039; across the TV screen.  Those offenders are not doing any of us any favors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would appear that some offenders are more capable of expressing common sense that many of our &#8220;do-gooder&#8221; legislators.  We must keep the pressure on until the truth sinks in and live lives that are exemplary to our message.  It&#8217;s not easy but can be done.  I find myself angry at every new offense &#8216;plastered&#8217; across the TV screen.  Those offenders are not doing any of us any favors.</p>
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		By: Reformed Sex Offender		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6756</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reformed Sex Offender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6753&quot;&gt;les&lt;/a&gt;.

Les,

I think that registration can and should be a part of probation and parole for all violent crimes -- whether sexual or non-sexual -- in nature. I think it is common sense to keep track of the people that have already committed a violent offense. But, lifetime registration is extreme for most offenders -- and all of the additional restrictions on the lives of sex offenders that have been added in recent years are punitive and a clear violation of ex post facto principles. 

Most states already require ALL felons to register and re-register anyway. Why is that not sufficient for sex offenders?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6753">les</a>.</p>
<p>Les,</p>
<p>I think that registration can and should be a part of probation and parole for all violent crimes &#8212; whether sexual or non-sexual &#8212; in nature. I think it is common sense to keep track of the people that have already committed a violent offense. But, lifetime registration is extreme for most offenders &#8212; and all of the additional restrictions on the lives of sex offenders that have been added in recent years are punitive and a clear violation of ex post facto principles. </p>
<p>Most states already require ALL felons to register and re-register anyway. Why is that not sufficient for sex offenders?</p>
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		By: Reformed Sex Offender		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6755</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reformed Sex Offender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6752&quot;&gt;Capt Charles Munsey Jr. USN (Ret)&lt;/a&gt;.

Somehow many countries have jumped on the bandwagon that sex offenders are more likely to re-offend and are less worthy of forgiveness. Apparently, if you commit a single non-violent sex offense, you are more dangerous to society than a person who is convicted of murderer, arson, aggravated battery or drunk driving. I guess my brain must be faulty because I do not see it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6752">Capt Charles Munsey Jr. USN (Ret)</a>.</p>
<p>Somehow many countries have jumped on the bandwagon that sex offenders are more likely to re-offend and are less worthy of forgiveness. Apparently, if you commit a single non-violent sex offense, you are more dangerous to society than a person who is convicted of murderer, arson, aggravated battery or drunk driving. I guess my brain must be faulty because I do not see it.</p>
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		By: Reformed Sex Offender		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6754</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reformed Sex Offender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[California is headed in the right direction. Most offenders should not automatically be required to register for life. That does not allow a first time offender to ever have a normal life again. Shouldn&#039;t people be given a second chance? If the offender was your friend or relative, wouldn&#039;t you want them to have an opportunity to live a normal life, free of the burden of lifelong registration -- and all the indignities, fears and restrictions that go with it? I think 20 years is long enough to show that most offenders have committed to good behavior. Naturally, there will be exceptions. But society should not punish an entire class of citizens just because SOME in that class choose not to learn from their past. I agree that offenders who are guilty of REPEAT felony child molestation, REPEAT kidnapping with intent to commit a sex crime and REPEAT offenses of serious sex crimes should be required to register for life. That makes sense. If they did not alter their behavior after their first offense, they are very unlikely to do so after their second offense and they do not deserve to be free of the registry. However, I think that if the offense involved forcible rape, use of a weapon (even as a means of intimidation), striking, beating or physically harming the victim, a first-time offender should be required to register until they have been free of sex-related or non-sexual violent offenses for a minimum of 20 years and have completed sex offender treatment and therapy designed for violent sex offenders. I also think that if an offense resulted in permanent injury, maiming or death of the victim that the offender should remain on lifetime registration, even if they are a first-time offender.

Of course, when I speak of registration, I mean ONLY registration -- not all of the other requirements that states have added in recent years. I do not think those on the registry should be subjected to proximity and residency restrictions of any kind unless it was stipulated in court during their sentencing. 

I also do not think anyone should be subject to ANY legislation that burdens them in any way unless the law was enacted prior to their conviction for an offense that the law covers. Individuals in such a circumstance should be removed from all registries everywhere immediately -- regardless of the nature of their offense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California is headed in the right direction. Most offenders should not automatically be required to register for life. That does not allow a first time offender to ever have a normal life again. Shouldn&#8217;t people be given a second chance? If the offender was your friend or relative, wouldn&#8217;t you want them to have an opportunity to live a normal life, free of the burden of lifelong registration &#8212; and all the indignities, fears and restrictions that go with it? I think 20 years is long enough to show that most offenders have committed to good behavior. Naturally, there will be exceptions. But society should not punish an entire class of citizens just because SOME in that class choose not to learn from their past. I agree that offenders who are guilty of REPEAT felony child molestation, REPEAT kidnapping with intent to commit a sex crime and REPEAT offenses of serious sex crimes should be required to register for life. That makes sense. If they did not alter their behavior after their first offense, they are very unlikely to do so after their second offense and they do not deserve to be free of the registry. However, I think that if the offense involved forcible rape, use of a weapon (even as a means of intimidation), striking, beating or physically harming the victim, a first-time offender should be required to register until they have been free of sex-related or non-sexual violent offenses for a minimum of 20 years and have completed sex offender treatment and therapy designed for violent sex offenders. I also think that if an offense resulted in permanent injury, maiming or death of the victim that the offender should remain on lifetime registration, even if they are a first-time offender.</p>
<p>Of course, when I speak of registration, I mean ONLY registration &#8212; not all of the other requirements that states have added in recent years. I do not think those on the registry should be subjected to proximity and residency restrictions of any kind unless it was stipulated in court during their sentencing. </p>
<p>I also do not think anyone should be subject to ANY legislation that burdens them in any way unless the law was enacted prior to their conviction for an offense that the law covers. Individuals in such a circumstance should be removed from all registries everywhere immediately &#8212; regardless of the nature of their offense.</p>
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		By: les		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sex-offender-revamp-works-state-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-6753</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[les]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; Morales said. “Staying on that list could save someone a lifetime of trauma.”  &quot;  So this thought process is maddeningly frustrating to me.
For the love of mercy, could someone tell me how does being on a list protect anyone? I was abused as a child, the list wouldn&#039;t have prevented it. 
Let&#039;s put every potential terrorist on &#039;a list&#039; and apparently we&#039;ll have no more terrorism. Let&#039;s put every drunk driver on a list and apparently that will prevent further dangerous driving, etc, etc.
At best it is hell for those who actually are trying to lead law-abiding lives beneficial to society, and at worst, it does nothing for protecting anyone except maybe political careers.
If a person really wants to hurt someone else, no list, no sign in a yard, no prohibitions, no notification processes, not even the dreaded GPS monitoring, is going to stop it. 
Thank you for allowing me to vent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Morales said. “Staying on that list could save someone a lifetime of trauma.”  &#8221;  So this thought process is maddeningly frustrating to me.<br />
For the love of mercy, could someone tell me how does being on a list protect anyone? I was abused as a child, the list wouldn&#8217;t have prevented it.<br />
Let&#8217;s put every potential terrorist on &#8216;a list&#8217; and apparently we&#8217;ll have no more terrorism. Let&#8217;s put every drunk driver on a list and apparently that will prevent further dangerous driving, etc, etc.<br />
At best it is hell for those who actually are trying to lead law-abiding lives beneficial to society, and at worst, it does nothing for protecting anyone except maybe political careers.<br />
If a person really wants to hurt someone else, no list, no sign in a yard, no prohibitions, no notification processes, not even the dreaded GPS monitoring, is going to stop it.<br />
Thank you for allowing me to vent.</p>
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