Trust me. I spent 2 1/2 year’s and $160.000 fighting my charge. We tried EVERY angle !!. But FLORIDA kept referring back to the “Statue Law” !!. You can’t use the lack of knowing their age, Or the fact that they lied. As a defense !!!. FLORIDA doesn’t care, All they want is your money !!!. I wasn’t even required to Register !! My Probation Officer is who Registered me !!!. I was Adjucation Witheld and was supposed to be FREE AND CLEAR after I did 4 years Probation !!. But while on Probation, All these crazy new laws went into effect. So, Here I am on the Registery forever as long as stay in Florida !!. I want to move out west(Utah or Idaho), But can’t afford the $10K it will cost me to move myself and most of my stuff and make a Down payment on some cheap land to put my RV on. I could get off the Registery in 10 years or even less in Utah. Wish there was a way. But between my poor health and unable to work, I’m stuck here forever !!

I would like to see this documentary as well. Hopefully a major TV network can pick it up and air it. The director or the producers should pitch the idea to networks like HBO, time warner or even huge award winning networks like Netflix and Hulu that have 100 million + subscribers.

(Sorry if you get this twice, but the computer says it had a hiccup. Actually, the first version was more cohesive).

The government is trying to make untrained individuals responsible for a job that the government can not seem to do itself. Few government “experts” can spot a fake I.D., even given a lot of time.

What is needed is to SET A LEGAL PRECEDENCE AGAINST THE STATE which disallows the government (police/prosecutors) to hold individuals to a higher standard of performance (more accountable) than the government itself (and business owners) can achieve.

How long did it take that detective to determine that the I.D. was fake? So, with all their training, how is it we are supposed to do better? They can tell me I have to fly like Superman, but I’ll crash and burn if I jump off a cliff.

Two additional thoughts –
1. If the club is operating under the same procedures, which have proved inadequate before, then they are willfully endangering the clientele – or prospective clientele. Go after them again. Make them get it right.

2. If the girl’s mom knows about the behavior of her daughter, then there must be room to file suit against the mother for willful negligence (especially considering the daughter’s subsequent behaviors) – and the daughter (through the parents, if necessary) for endangering your freedom.

Finding out after the event and punishing the guy – and not the daughter – is tantamount to saying that everyone is responsible for controlling the daughter’s behavior, except the mother/family. But, it’s easy to say the daughter is the innocent “victim”, even though she is the one that perpetrated the action.

Sir, I was a Reserve Deputy years before my charge !! I’ve seen HUNDREDS of IDs as well as MANY “Fake IDs !!. And I can say with certainty, That many “Fake IDs” are pretty hard to catch at the door of a Club at night with 100+ people pushing to get in !!. I caught my charge because of a Fake ID !! Buy it wasn’t me that actually saw the ID !! The Doorman and the Bartender saw it and was serving the Girl Alcohol at the time I met her !!. And , Yes. I sued the Club !! And the State closed it down because there were several (11) men that also was charged because of “Fake IDs” being allowed in this club. But the owner simply changed names on the lease, And reopened a couple weeks later !!. Now, Ad far as “Catching” a Fake ID !!. With all these “High End” computers and open access to almost anything if you have enough money !! Obtaining software and a printer to make IDs is pretty easy(even back in 2003 ¡!). And with 50 US States, And thousands of foreign IDs, It’s IMPOSSIBLE to catch even a 10th of the fake ones !!. I’ve seen MANY Fake IDs fool MANY Cops !!!. So, Your accusation of “Someone Not Knowing” that the ID is Fake, Is just WRONG !!!. And just a little Inside info, My cousin used to steal REAL IDs, And simply change the Photo on them. This made it IMPOSSIBLE to catch because the ID was REAL !!. Now this was 25+ years ago before laser printers !!. But it was done very easily. And a 15 year old girl turns into a 20 year old pretty fast with makeup and clothing !!. Most 15 to 17 year olds today look 18 to 22 anyway without any help !!!. Even my Judge and Or ADMITTED that my “Victim” looked 25+ !!!!!!!!. And you would too !!!. Over the last 14 years, I’ve asked HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE (Male and Female, Young and Old) How old they thought she was (in a picture of the year I was charged !!(2003). And EVERY SINGLE PERSON SAID 18+ !!!!!!!!. . I even hired a Private Detective to follow her during the Court Case, And she was buying ALCOHOL AND CIGS WITHOUT EVEN SHOWING ID !!!. But NONE OF THIS helped me in Florida !!!. It doesn’t matter if the person LIED or Even had a FAKE ID !! . Florida will HANG YOU no matter what !!!!!!!.

You are so right on point.

As a side note, the organization (bar or whatever) has a responsibility to screen entrants. It is a reasonable assumption that anyone admitted would be, in this case, 18 or over. Since the owners failed to provide the proper safety and security of the patrons, I would think they would be liable – to criminal and/or civil lawsuits.

It’s easy for government to make rules and make individuals accountable, but at a level beyond what the government is capable of.